Obama Drug Czar to end "war on drugs"

medicineman

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So, Hey righties, How do you think the drug war would differ under McCain?? I say it would still be full steam ahead, what say you?
 

Mcgician

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So, Hey righties, How do you think the drug war would differ under McCain?? I say it would still be full steam ahead, what say you?
As much as I hate to say I agree with you, I do. Before we get all excited though, there are many hurdles in the way of changing Federal drug laws. The president can't do it by himself with an executive order, the laws themselves will have to be changed. Undoubtedly, there are sure to be challenges that will end up in the SC. It's a step in right direction for sure, but let's see how this plays out. I'm certain there will be some nasty strings attached to full fledged legalization/decriminalization. Now that he's trying to push through socialized medicine, I'd assume that because the "collective" is paying for everyone's healthcare, mandatory drug testing could very well be one of those strings. I wouldn't get out those pom-poms yet.
 

hom36rown

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So, Hey righties, How do you think the drug war would differ under McCain?? I say it would still be full steam ahead, what say you?
I suppose so, but I believe it is still full steam ahead now. The czar is not for legalization, sounds to me he just does not like the term "war on drugs". He says he would favor treatment over incarceration, well, we'll see. BTW, the conservative candidate I voted for is really against the war on drugs. McCain is just as big a douchbag as obama. Believe it or not med, a lot of righties on here(maybe even all of us?) do not like McCain or Bush.
 

gscanaba

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ya good good.... but still bad for super spending, still prohibitionists, and still illegal. BUT * thank god the chains have been loosened.
 

medicineman

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I suppose so, but I believe it is still full steam ahead now. The czar is not for legalization, sounds to me he just does not like the term "war on drugs". He says he would favor treatment over incarceration, well, we'll see. BTW, the conservative candidate I voted for is really against the war on drugs. McCain is just as big a douchbag as obama. Believe it or not med, a lot of righties on here(maybe even all of us?) do not like McCain or Bush.
So let me get this straight, Libertarians, (Which I must assume you are) are righties in the most extreme. Is that the case? I'm sorry, but that extreme will never legally hold major offices in this country. There are enough sane people to prevent that. As you all call me a commie, full well knowing that is not the case, must I then assume that all of you are Nazis? I don't. I think that you all are a bit misguided, but untill you start advocating mass killing of us lefties, I'll leave the Nazi tag out. It would behoove all of you righties to just call me and others of the left persuasion, lefties. I'll reserve "Nazi" for the real assholes, you know of whom I speak.
 

medicineman

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lol, when did I call you a commie?
I didn't direct that at you personally, as I said, You know of whom I speak, there are a few on here that do just that, VI, cracker, Brutal, and Max come to mind, those stinkin Nazis, ~LOL~. Does Med-O-Mao ring any bells?
 

vh13

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As a bleeding heart liberal born from survivors of the Holocaust, it's hard for me to say this, but Nazis were actually very liberal by today's standard. They wanted very similar progressive changes modern liberals want even now. The only difference was, their idea of government intervention and control included "cleaning up" the gene pool of the nation and of the world.

As a bi-sexual Jew who doesn't like to conform to many of societies standards, I don't think I could ever fear a Libertarian government.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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I didn't direct that at you personally, as I said, You know of whom I speak, there are a few on here that do just that, VI, cracker, Brutal, and Max come to mind, those stinkin Nazis, ~LOL~. Does Med-O-Mao ring any bells?
Sieg Heil
Heil Obama

:: snickers ::

I'm just simply stunned that you would accuse me of being a Nazi, as the Nazi's were Socialists (State Control Freaks) much like the Chinese and the Soviets.

Not to mention the fact that (like the previous post points out) their policies were very liberal sans the entire eugenics idea, though even that was very "progressive" and "liberal" for the time.

Imagine that, the Liberals now bringing you the Holocaust as a service of their star Proponents the NAZIs...



Though I'm rather convinced that you are a centrist as opposed to a far left statist. Not that some of your positions are not anathema with some of your other positions, but eh, the only perfect person I know of is the subject to some debate as to whether he existed, his father existed, or if humanity was really saved by him, so I'll avoid bringing him up.
 

ilkhan

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Nothings changing but the name "War on Drugs" and probably
the amount of money fighting the new "Not-War on Drugs."

The feds need to get out of the way, at least as far as Pot goes.
Let the states regulate, The drug schedule needs to be revised,
schedule 1 should require a real danger of overdose leading to death or serious physical/mental trama.
Hell most drugs should have to require that before they are restricted.

I think a president could do this with an executive order.
If not a congressmen could put in a bill to revise the drug schedule.
Thats how I would attack this problem.
I would even couch it as strengthening the drug code. ;)
 

Johnnyorganic

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So let me get this straight, Libertarians, (Which I must assume you are) are righties in the most extreme. Is that the case? I'm sorry, but that extreme will never legally hold major offices in this country. There are enough sane people to prevent that. As you all call me a commie, full well knowing that is not the case, must I then assume that all of you are Nazis? I don't. I think that you all are a bit misguided, but untill you start advocating mass killing of us lefties, I'll leave the Nazi tag out. It would behoove all of you righties to just call me and others of the left persuasion, lefties. I'll reserve "Nazi" for the real assholes, you know of whom I speak.
Your ever-present desire to paint Libertarians as ultra-Right-wing is laughable. An intentional mis-characterization I would term willful ignorance.

Other terms for Libertarian are Classical Liberal and Jeffersonian Liberal. We don't fit in the traditional box of Right versus Left. As such, the Right-wing extremists hate and fear us as much as you do, Med.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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Nothings changing but the name "War on Drugs" and probably
the amount of money fighting the new "Not-War on Drugs."

The feds need to get out of the way, at least as far as Pot goes.
Let the states regulate, The drug schedule needs to be revised,
schedule 1 should require a real danger of overdose leading to death or serious physical/mental trama.
Hell most drugs should have to require that before they are restricted.

I think a president could do this with an executive order.
If not a congressmen could put in a bill to revise the drug schedule.
Thats how I would attack this problem.
I would even couch it as strengthening the drug code. ;)
I was about to go and make that comment, lol.

About how the "War on Drugs" isn't being ended, the name is just being changed.

Does this mean that the Government has surrendered (with out actually surrendering?)
 

ViRedd

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Your ever-present desire to paint Libertarians as ultra-Right-wing is laughable. An intentional mis-characterization I would term willful ignorance.

Other terms for Libertarian are Classical Liberal and Jeffersonian Liberal. We don't fit in the traditional box of Right versus Left. As such, the Right-wing extremists hate and fear us as much as you do, Med.
That's exactly right, Johnny.

If anyone is espousing the economic principles of the Nazis, it would be Obama.

Vi
 

TheBrutalTruth

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I Fucking HATE Nazi's and anyone who claims to be a Nazi. Now go smoke one to that.
If I smoked I would


As far as your hatred of NAZIs what's your take on the fact that they were socialists, because I would imagine that in hating them or even just disliking them you would know why you hate them, or at least have more reasons than just, "They killed a lot of people, and tried taking over the world," because that would mean hating a lot of people for no other reason than they killed a lot of other people and tried taking over the world.
 
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