NUTRIENT lockout. Pretty obvious, am I RIGHT OR WRONG

MaloMAL

MaloMAL

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This unknown BAG SEED, has went sour on me 2 already lmfao.
It had this same issue 16 days ago. It went away and started thriving.
3 days from today it started going backwards on me again. Idk wth
Is happening. I believe it's nutrient lockout.

Any suggestions on what to do ????

Last thing I did to fix it was. I took it from nutrients and flushed it with plain tub water then added the plants under a fluorescent light in a dome tray. When the old flowers died a lot more new ones
Erupted. I transferred it into small 1.75 qt container for a couple days in plain water. It was growing stretching upwards and all. Lol Now they are all stiff, hard, crinkly, and spotted.

For those who are under the wrong influence I'm stubborn this is an example of how I'm not. I'm literally asking for help as I've been doing, thank you all !
 

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vostok

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pics under white light is best?

leaves hard and crinky is way to much nute

good for you to flush but more of it pleaze

gently extract that root ball and wash in tepid ph'ed water

wash out and sterilize those clayballs and pots with 10% bleach and rinse

if you have no aero cloner ..continue as you are with no nutes for 7-14 days

or add to your cloner until the green returns

once you have 50% green feed at 25% of rec. volume

increasing weekly to the recommended amount

this will delay harvest

but hey ..you will get some in

good luck
 
MaloMAL

MaloMAL

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vostok said:
pics under white light is best?

leaves hard and crinky is way to much nute

good for you to flush but more of it pleaze

gently extract that root ball and wash in tepid ph'ed water

wash out and sterilize those clayballs and pots with 10% bleach and rinse

if you have no aero cloner ..continue as you are with no nutes for 7-14 days

or add to your cloner until the green returns

once you have 50% green feed at 25% of rec. volume

increasing weekly to the recommended amount

this will delay harvest

but hey ..you will get some in

good luck
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I was trying too. Hold on I'll retake for you my friend.
 

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vostok

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see not so bad

but I'd still go the advice above

maybe not so long

you only need that green back 3-4 days?

good luck
 
MaloMAL

MaloMAL

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vostok said:
see not so bad

but I'd still go the advice above

maybe not so long

you only need that green back 3-4 days?

good luck
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Thanks good friend. I will do this now.
I will update. I switch the light today 600watt led
 
MaloMAL

MaloMAL

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im4satori said:
do you have a ppm meter or an EC meter?

those should only be getting maybe EC 0.5 or ppm 400 (roughly)
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It's funny you say that brother because it's far less at 223 exact ppm. It was at 405 exact and I've been diluting it since, thanks. What should I do. I followed the steps Vostok gave me. Any other suggestions?
 
im4satori

im4satori

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dude my tap water has more ppm than that

provided your ppm meter is working proper.... no way you can get nute burn with 223 ppm

I feed sprouts 400ppm and I am considered lower than most people as far as how much I feed

I don't disagree they could look like theyre getting too much and in many cases that's true

but in your case, theyre not getting enough, unless your ppm meter is bad



manage your reservoir like this to be safe

put 400 ppm in the reservior
adjust the PH to 5.5

check it every day for a few days
if the PH swings up , and the PPM drops raise your ppm

if the PH does swing up and the PPM doesn't drop, lower your nutes
 
MaloMAL

MaloMAL

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im4satori said:
dude my tap water has more ppm than that

provided your ppm meter is working proper.... no way you can get nute burn with 223 ppm

I feed sprouts 400ppm and I am considered lower than most people as far as how much I feed

I don't disagree they could look like theyre getting too much and in many cases that's true

but in your case, theyre not getting enough, unless your ppm meter is bad



manage your reservoir like this to be safe

put 400 ppm in the reservior
adjust the PH to 5.5

check it every day for a few days
if the PH swings up , and the PPM drops raise your ppm

if the PH does swing up and the PPM doesn't drop, lower your nutes
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I know I said it was at 405 until this started happening then I lowered to 223ppm to prevent further damage due to what i thought was nutrients. I never said that man.
My ppm is not bad either, please let's be helpful not controversial man. I need help. Real help. My ppm meter is PERFECTLY fine, it shows me 84 on my faucet water every single time. That is how I keep up with its function. Plus it's less than a month old.

If I dropped the ppm due to this happening, should I bring it back up ?
Also you mention 223 is not enough ppm, should I raise the ppm on my other 2 totes, I have 3 in total with the one I have problems with. The ppm is 214 on one and 240 on the other, the plants appear very healthy and getting larger fan leaves. I'll send a photo my friend. Thank you for being a good Person.
 
MaloMAL

MaloMAL

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im4satori said:
dude my tap water has more ppm than that

provided your ppm meter is working proper.... no way you can get nute burn with 223 ppm

I feed sprouts 400ppm and I am considered lower than most people as far as how much I feed

I don't disagree they could look like theyre getting too much and in many cases that's true

but in your case, theyre not getting enough, unless your ppm meter is bad



manage your reservoir like this to be safe

put 400 ppm in the reservior
adjust the PH to 5.5

check it every day for a few days
if the PH swings up , and the PPM drops raise your ppm

if the PH does swing up and the PPM doesn't drop, lower your nutes
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MaloMAL

MaloMAL

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The ugliest burnt looking motherfucker lol is 7 whole days older from germ date than these. I germed the healthy looking ones, which I believe are healthy, you tell me, 7 days after the burnt ones. Because it was older I followed the nute schedule of week 2 of General organic GO box. Which is literally double the amount of week 1. A couple days after hell broke look on them and they look like this. Idk man. I did what Vostok told me. In hopes it would recover. It's and unknown seed bag anyways. Not to say I want to lose them but it won't be much loss. The other 4 I care a shit load for, it's GIRL scout cookies, grape ape, and sweet tooth. I have plenty sweet tooth seeds but the rest I am very limited too.
 
im4satori

im4satori

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im not giving you a hard time

didn't mean to sound as if I was

it can be hard to talk in terms of ppm

not all ppms are going to provide the same readings

my pen could say 500ppm yours could say 750ppm

I prefer to speak in terms of EC

clones and sprouts start at EC 0.5 (guessing about 350 ppm)

plants 12" tall or better EC 1.2 (guessing about 850ppm)

personally I don't need to feed higher than EC1.2 but some people may need higher
but no way for any reason would you go above EC 1.5 (guessing 1000ppm)
 
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