pilgrim101
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Do i need to change the nutes to start my white dwarf auto to go into flower. they`ve been on 24hr light for 29 days. cheers
Nutes help needed please.
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projectmayham
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Don't rely on just nutes to put your plants into flower... Your going to have to change your light cycle to 12/12. I usually flush them with superleach before i switch to my bloom nutrient, to get out any excess nitrogen.... Then i just feed with Supernatural Bloom terra (for soil, bloom aqua for hydro). It works brilliantly. I find the leaching very important, i think more people need to start leaching throughout their crop. not just at the end. It brings your soil, back to nice even profile, so they take up the nutes better.
Cannabisworks
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this is an auto. no need to change light time or it will slow everything down. more growth in autos with more light. it works different. should be running flower food from day 1 realy.
your 29 days then it should already be way into flower if its an auto
if you dont mess up the soil or over use food it isnt ever needed to flush. sales pitch to use more food by the companies. you never need to use the amounts on the bottles. should be able to do just fine with less and not have the need to wash good food down a drain and waste it
your 29 days then it should already be way into flower if its an auto
if you dont mess up the soil or over use food it isnt ever needed to flush. sales pitch to use more food by the companies. you never need to use the amounts on the bottles. should be able to do just fine with less and not have the need to wash good food down a drain and waste it
Bullethead21
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Yup I agree with Cannabisworks here, flushing is done by curing and drying your final product. There is no need to starve a plant the last 2 weeks of growth if you have a proper feed schedule......your not really flushing anything anyhow in "most" cases, not all but most.
I am most amused at the extent some growers go to for this "flush".......
A better way is to use a product like Sledgehammer from Fox Farms or either Drip Clean from H&G to prevent any salt buildups from happening. OR you have the option to use really good nutrients that do not cause salt buildups in the first place....General Hydroponics Flora series is the WORST as it causes MAJOR salt buildups.....Dyna-Gro formula's do not cause ANY salt build up at all that I have ever seen......
I am most amused at the extent some growers go to for this "flush".......
A better way is to use a product like Sledgehammer from Fox Farms or either Drip Clean from H&G to prevent any salt buildups from happening. OR you have the option to use really good nutrients that do not cause salt buildups in the first place....General Hydroponics Flora series is the WORST as it causes MAJOR salt buildups.....Dyna-Gro formula's do not cause ANY salt build up at all that I have ever seen......
Cannabisworks
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not what i meant. always flush at the end to get rid of alot of things and make the dry cute better. using anything more than water isnt needed is all i said but deffinatly flush them. smoking chlorophyl and other stuff is just nasty.,
your still using fake crap if you think that stuff works any better than plain water. learn to use food right and dont have to buy nay of them fake bottles. a grower is the cause of salt build up. not the food....lol they dont feed themselves dood. salt is food. its not some foriegn material so if it was building that it needs to be deal with dont feed so heavy and wasting food.
i mean no need to flush during the grow
your still using fake crap if you think that stuff works any better than plain water. learn to use food right and dont have to buy nay of them fake bottles. a grower is the cause of salt build up. not the food....lol they dont feed themselves dood. salt is food. its not some foriegn material so if it was building that it needs to be deal with dont feed so heavy and wasting food.
i mean no need to flush during the grow
Harrekin
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You think flushing rids the plant of chlorophyll? Also if you worked for a nute company you'd know well that a plant doesn't store nutrients in the buds, so what will starving it achieve?
Why do organic growers not need to flush when the plant uptakes the same chemical elements through the roots?
As usual you're posting crap.
Cannabisworks
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i never said anything about food in the buds. you reading right thread?. it dosent remove chlorophyll..no..but it will allow the plant to use the stored foods that stoip the production of the chlorophyll, in the leaves. makes a better tasting smoke. thought we all knew that in our first year of growing.
no dood. ypour the one not reading and falling for online myths.
who said you DONT have to flush in organic. its a personal choice. most think that becaiuse online says no need to as its an organic safe food. if its a real organbiuc then flushing dosent get rid of anything cause its so slow to break down. would need a major amount to totaly clear all food from medium to allow it to use its stored foods. nobody NEEDS to flush. but it makes better dry/cure and better all around smoke.
i see you still havent grown up to leave the pokes out of the info, typical
no dood. ypour the one not reading and falling for online myths.
who said you DONT have to flush in organic. its a personal choice. most think that becaiuse online says no need to as its an organic safe food. if its a real organbiuc then flushing dosent get rid of anything cause its so slow to break down. would need a major amount to totaly clear all food from medium to allow it to use its stored foods. nobody NEEDS to flush. but it makes better dry/cure and better all around smoke.
i see you still havent grown up to leave the pokes out of the info, typical
Cannabisworks
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this is why so much info has been miss understood or missinterpreted....
Motherhugger
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Interesting stuff here. Well, except for hearing the same voices on all of the boards today.
Get outside! Get back into your grow room. Sounds like some people are spending more time on the boards, saying the same old things without offering anything of consequence.
WAit...I just did that too. LOL
Get outside! Get back into your grow room. Sounds like some people are spending more time on the boards, saying the same old things without offering anything of consequence.
WAit...I just did that too. LOL
bobbitoblaze
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Yes you wana switch to a bloom nutes something with a higher P-k this will also stimulate flowering
Harrekin
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Flushing doesn't effect anything, least of all does it help the dry and cure. How does flushing help the dry and cure? Jesus Cannabisworks, stop posting crap and trying to look smart, you're not helping anyone and noone here cares for bad advice.
Bloom nutes from the start like, what another load of crap, cos the plant doesn't veg for 2-3 weeks before initiating flowering no? Infact you should continue with veg nutes for up to 2 weeks into flower while they stretch before they form floral clusters.
Bloom nutes from the start like, what another load of crap, cos the plant doesn't veg for 2-3 weeks before initiating flowering no? Infact you should continue with veg nutes for up to 2 weeks into flower while they stretch before they form floral clusters.
Cannabisworks
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its not bad, its just not yours and you cant seem to handle that. if you can use its stored food up by flushing the medium so it weill use its own supplyt at the end any moron knows it helps the quality of the final product. more natural falvours terpenes.. burns cleaner and smoother. to me. just cause you dont do it or care to dosent make it wrong.
we;ll again if you knew what was in bloom and veg they are the same at just slight different ratios but is enough top grow it just fine for a few weeks. again just cause its not your way it dosent make it wrong. need to stop thinking only your way is the way top grow. you might actualy improve..
we;ll again if you knew what was in bloom and veg they are the same at just slight different ratios but is enough top grow it just fine for a few weeks. again just cause its not your way it dosent make it wrong. need to stop thinking only your way is the way top grow. you might actualy improve..
Harrekin
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Ok just so you know "Mr Nutrient Scientist", Pre-harvest flushing does NOTHING to improve the final quality...many people are now not flushing and finding the product is the exact same as when they did. Blind taste tests on any person will confirm this also.
I'm all for other people answering questions, hell it means most of the rest of us don't have to bother, but you answer them like an idiot who's never actually grown but who has read a Grow-Bible. Stop giving bad advice, your name is synonymous with ridiculous points like:
-Too much food doesn't burn plants, you can feed seedlings full strength nutes from the beginning.
-You don't need veg nutes, only bloom
-Flushing improves the quality of the product
Amongst other little gems...
You don't know what you're talking about dude, it's pretty obvious to all but the noobs you're "helping".
Cannabisworks
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blinds taste test...hmmmmm..blind..i use a machine to see a quality diff. liitle more accurate than blind. bub.
grow bible???...why would i read old info from early years that most isnt accurate anymore. now im getting why you cant open your mind. old man cerventes hasnt wrote it so its not true...
and once again you pout your own twist to the answers to make your self seem the big shot with no facts. just opinions.l nobody said to use bloom always/. i said in this case being an auto and in new soil has food in it for a bit so why waste veg food for 1 or 2 feeds. maybe you feed everyday so it may not be for YOU once again there are millions of ways to grow. once you been doing it long enough youll see that. or once you try it.
ah fuk. wasting my breath on you. to begin with im not answering your thread here. you tell me to stay away from you..take your own advice hypocrite,
wtf is your problem consistantly insulting..
grow bible???...why would i read old info from early years that most isnt accurate anymore. now im getting why you cant open your mind. old man cerventes hasnt wrote it so its not true...
and once again you pout your own twist to the answers to make your self seem the big shot with no facts. just opinions.l nobody said to use bloom always/. i said in this case being an auto and in new soil has food in it for a bit so why waste veg food for 1 or 2 feeds. maybe you feed everyday so it may not be for YOU once again there are millions of ways to grow. once you been doing it long enough youll see that. or once you try it.
ah fuk. wasting my breath on you. to begin with im not answering your thread here. you tell me to stay away from you..take your own advice hypocrite,
wtf is your problem consistantly insulting..
Cannabisworks
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im sorry to others about getting pissy i just hate trolls that follow you from threads to thread saying absolute crap with not 1 fact to back it
Cannabisworks
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quotes from an unbiased group.....
It is advised that you stop using your cannabis flowering fertilizer 2 weeks before harvest time to ensure that all chemicals are out of the plant. If chemicals are in the plant when you harvest, the smoke will be very harsh. To prevent harshness, flush the plants heavily with fresh water 2 weeks prior to harvesting them. Ensure you flush at least 3 times the capacity of your pot. So a 4 gallon pot would be flushed with 16 gallons of fresh water. From that point water your plants with pure water, absolutely NO additives should be given to the plant. This is especially important if you have been using chemical fertilizers.
This is the time when the bulk of the final, "usable" part of the plant is produced. As you may well already know, there are over four hundred separate chemicals associated with cannabis and her effects. It is during the final bud-building stage that most of these chemicals are produced. Thus, it is very important to give the plant as much pure water as possible during this crucial period. I like to remember it as the "rinse" and "flush" cycle. Simply remember to give the plants only water for the last two to three weeks in order to rinse and flush them clean. This is to purge unwanted impurities from the plant.
Pot that has been fertilized right up to harvest is harsh to smoke, sometimes the joint will even sizzle and pop as unmetabolized fertilizer salts combust. Unflushed pot leaves black ash, is hard to keep lit and burns your throat. Pot which has been organically grown and properly flushed is more flavorful and fragrant, burns easily, leaves grey ash, is easier on the throat and is much more pleasurable to smoke.
It is advised that you stop using your cannabis flowering fertilizer 2 weeks before harvest time to ensure that all chemicals are out of the plant. If chemicals are in the plant when you harvest, the smoke will be very harsh. To prevent harshness, flush the plants heavily with fresh water 2 weeks prior to harvesting them. Ensure you flush at least 3 times the capacity of your pot. So a 4 gallon pot would be flushed with 16 gallons of fresh water. From that point water your plants with pure water, absolutely NO additives should be given to the plant. This is especially important if you have been using chemical fertilizers.
This is the time when the bulk of the final, "usable" part of the plant is produced. As you may well already know, there are over four hundred separate chemicals associated with cannabis and her effects. It is during the final bud-building stage that most of these chemicals are produced. Thus, it is very important to give the plant as much pure water as possible during this crucial period. I like to remember it as the "rinse" and "flush" cycle. Simply remember to give the plants only water for the last two to three weeks in order to rinse and flush them clean. This is to purge unwanted impurities from the plant.
Pot that has been fertilized right up to harvest is harsh to smoke, sometimes the joint will even sizzle and pop as unmetabolized fertilizer salts combust. Unflushed pot leaves black ash, is hard to keep lit and burns your throat. Pot which has been organically grown and properly flushed is more flavorful and fragrant, burns easily, leaves grey ash, is easier on the throat and is much more pleasurable to smoke.
Harrekin
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If you believe that you're a fool just like the other noobs.
And you use a machine to test the quality?! YOU SAID YOU ANSWERED PHONES FOR A NUTE COMPANY. You were a glorified receptionist, stop being the Walter Mitty of RIU, you don't know what you're talking about as usual.
But I'll play along again...if a plant only eats what it needs, how would it contain unmetabolised chemical elements? Another question you won't answer, just flap around.
EDIT: Read this Walter, its from someone with alot more credible experience than you'll ever have: https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/409622-truth-about-flushing.html
Cannabisworks
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not a fool. just use facts not forums for info.
so oyuve only had 1 job in oyur life and dont do anything in your own spare time . huess i didnt feel it was needed to exp-lain my personal life and who some of my personal friends are that work in the medical cannabis field. its no tmy faukt your in such denial that someone has different info than you. they shouldnt have to give their personal liufe history, just factual posts like i have been. still havent seen 1 single fact based post by you yet...in any of the threads your doing this to me in.
and sorry wasnt a receptionist. its called tech. and wasnt the only thing i di for the employment., but i dont feel i need to share ,my personal life with you to ellaborate
again read on plant metabolism. food isnt instantly used or processed once its in a plant...and yes a plant cant be force fed faster than its metabolism rate. that to was first year biology
so oyuve only had 1 job in oyur life and dont do anything in your own spare time . huess i didnt feel it was needed to exp-lain my personal life and who some of my personal friends are that work in the medical cannabis field. its no tmy faukt your in such denial that someone has different info than you. they shouldnt have to give their personal liufe history, just factual posts like i have been. still havent seen 1 single fact based post by you yet...in any of the threads your doing this to me in.
and sorry wasnt a receptionist. its called tech. and wasnt the only thing i di for the employment., but i dont feel i need to share ,my personal life with you to ellaborate
again read on plant metabolism. food isnt instantly used or processed once its in a plant...and yes a plant cant be force fed faster than its metabolism rate. that to was first year biology
Cannabisworks
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do i need to explain my schooling history to???