Nute Recomendations?

This is my first grow and its about that time of year! Here in northern cali most growers take their clones out around 4/20. Only a few weeks away. Ive had some bag seed out since late feb that are lookin great.

My plan for this grow is simple. (I wish i would have done research before hand and gone organic, theres always next season tho) I'm planning on goin 70% happy frog with 30% perlite. 2 cubic feet is only $10 here so im not worried about the cost. However, I'm not sure what nutrient system I'm going to use. I was thinking about the fox farms trio but its pricey. I'm going to have about 10-13 plants (subracting males, if any) I plan go 1,3,5 and 10 gallon smart pots for flower.

So what are the best liquid nutes youve bought? I was planning on adding lime to deal with ph, but its starting to sound like a ph meter and ph up/down is a neccesity. For the ammount of plants how much should i buy if i want to use the nutes lightly (1/4 strength instead of half)
Keep in mind this is a full outdoor grow, any advice is appreciated

Recs on powdered nutes are welcomed as well..

DynaGro - Foliage Pro and ProTekt.

Jack's Citrus FeED for veg
Jack's Aquagold Finisher for flower

I have only used Biobizz bro, I use the Biobizz Grow, Bloom, and topmax. Had great results using those three. And its hard to over cute with the biobizz organics. But it certainly has brought my plants on. Of course, there may be some posters who will say Biobizz is shit etc, but in my opinion, on my grow, with my setup, they have done me well. And you can get all three for £30 in the UK and it last a few grows.

GH flora duo. 1:1 ratio for veg, 1:3 ratio for flower=Lucas formula.

I've used some great organic soil recipes that I mixed myself. I've also used every liquid nute line recommended thus far in this thread, and I've used others as well. And I rate Advanced Nutrients above them all. I get excellent results and NEVER adjust pH.

I used the foxfarm trio with success last grow. Had a lot of deficiencies though. I'm running organically now and loving it.

You can still grow organically with the happy frog perlite mix. If you can get some worm castings or vermicompost and some dry meals, you can make a couple teas and just water throughout with an occasional molasses watering as a treat. Most garden centers will have the basics.

Joe Blows Trees said:

You can still grow organically with the happy frog perlite mix. If you can get some worm castings or vermicompost and some dry meals, you can make a couple teas and just water throughout with an occasional molasses watering as a treat. Most garden centers will have the basics.

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My whole thought behind organic was just a water and go. Im not the kinda guy to overpay for stuff just cause its organic

The dry amendments aren't that expensive and neither is a fish tank pump and a couple air stones. It's cool though, just a suggestion.

GrowinDad said:

DynaGro - Foliage Pro and ProTekt.

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I agree - Dyna Grow! I've used Fox Farm, Canna, and Advanced Nutrients. Nothing has given me results like Dyna Grow has. It's also the least expensive option. It turns out the others are just pure marketing.

I've had such great results with Dyna Grow that I've bought their entire product line. I use the Foliage-Pro vs the Grow.

Also, instead of using CalMag+ I'd recommend Earth Juice OilyCann.

Seriously, marketing aside, it comes down to NPK and trace elements. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

That One Stoner Guy said:

This is my first grow and its about that time of year! Here in northern cali most growers take their clones out around 4/20. Only a few weeks away. Ive had some bag seed out since late feb that are lookin great.

My plan for this grow is simple. (I wish i would have done research before hand and gone organic, theres always next season tho) I'm planning on goin 70% happy frog with 30% perlite. 2 cubic feet is only $10 here so im not worried about the cost. However, I'm not sure what nutrient system I'm going to use. I was thinking about the fox farms trio but its pricey. I'm going to have about 10-13 plants (subracting males, if any) I plan go 1,3,5 and 10 gallon smart pots for flower.

So what are the best liquid nutes youve bought? I was planning on adding lime to deal with ph, but its starting to sound like a ph meter and ph up/down is a neccesity. For the ammount of plants how much should i buy if i want to use the nutes lightly (1/4 strength instead of half)
Keep in mind this is a full outdoor grow, any advice is appreciated

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That One Stoner Guy said:

My whole thought behind organic was just a water and go. Im not the kinda guy to overpay for stuff just cause its organic

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This shit works great. Works even better with a weekly tea
Just top dress and water
I believe its made right around here in Chico Ca
We grew 8lb'ers with it the year before last.

Aeroknow said:

This shit works great. Works even better with a weekly tea
Just top dress and water
I believe its made right around here in Chico Ca

We grew 8lb'ers with it the year before last.

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Did you use the 7-4-4?

That One Stoner Guy said:

Did you use the 7-4-4?

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I'm pretty sure the 7-4-4 is the organic only.
We rocked that at first, then switched to the organic/synthetic combo.

If you weren't to throw teas at them weekly, I would def rock the organic synthetic combo. Especially if you are starting with an inert dirt. The organics take a minute to get going, so the salts in it will be there for them also
I'm tellin ya, good shit, but you can def do organics cheaper. But not easier IMO.

We start our outdoor with some highly ammended soil, so the non-synthetic worked great.

Aeroknow said:

I'm pretty sure the 7-4-4 is the organic only.
We rocked that at first, then switched to the organic/synthetic combo.

If you weren't to throw teas at them weekly, I would def rock the organic synthetic combo. Especially if you are starting with an inert dirt. The organics take a minute to get going, so the salts in it will be there for them also
I'm tellin ya, good shit, but you can def do organics cheaper. But not easier IMO.

We start our outdoor with some highly ammended soil, so the non-synthetic worked great.

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I was just thinkin a 3-1-1 (15-5-5)ratios kind of off. Ive found a cheaper synthetic mix with the same ratio and all 16 essentials plants need. Plus im using happyfrog so it already contains mychoriza (not sure how its spelled)

That One Stoner Guy said:

I was just thinkin a 3-1-1 (15-5-5)ratios kind of off. Ive found a cheaper synthetic mix with the same ratio and all 16 essentials plants need. Plus im using happyfrog so it already contains mychoriza (not sure how its spelled)

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I'm down with full on synthetics. But with large crops, you need allot of gallons of tanks to mix the shit it up and feed from, or you're talking allot of labor.
Smaller crops, sure, no prob.
How many plants, and how big are the pots going to be? Or in ground?

Aeroknow said:

I'm down with full on synthetics. But with large crops, you need allot of gallons of tanks to mix the shit it up and feed from, or you're talking allot of labor.
Smaller crops, sure, no prob.
How many plants, and how big are the pots going to be? Or in ground?

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I dont think its a full on synthetic. This one guy swear by it and has had some great sucess with it. Plus the price is great. I plan on using a 2-1-2 for veg instead of the 3-1-1

The plants will be in pots their whole life, i havent yet decided on how large the flowering pot will be. Im thinking 15 or 20 gallons

That One Stoner Guy said:

I dont think its a full on synthetic. This one guy swear by it and has had some great sucess with it. Plus the price is great. I plan on using a 2-1-2 for veg instead of the 3-1-1

The plants will be in pots their whole life, i havent yet decided on how large the flowering pot will be. Im thinking 15 or 20 gallons

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Shiiiit! In them small pots, def go synthetics imo
Do what your friend does if what they're using works for sure!
I just don't like watering 200-400gal smartpots, or big ass plants in the ground with full on synthetics. Been there, done that.

Aeroknow said:

Shiiiit! In them small pots, def go synthetics imo
Do what your friend does if what they're using works for sure!
I just don't like watering 200-400gal smartpots, or big ass plants in the ground with full on synthetics. Been there, done that.

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What kind of problems do you run into?