** Nute burn, what causes it? The Nitrogen? Phosphorus? or Potasium? :D

Adi1989

Adi1989

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Hi guys, Im looking to push my plants to the max they can handle without creating burn, does anyone know what causes burn? Is it the Nitrogen? Phosphorus? or Potasium? or all three?

Has anyone tested ratios of NPK and what their plants can handle at certain stages?

If so what nutrient line did you use and what feed?
 
Zephyrs

Zephyrs

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Adi1989 said:
Hi guys, Im looking to push my plants to the max they can handle without creating burn, does anyone know what causes burn? Is it the Nitrogen? Phosphorus? or Potasium? or all three?

Has anyone tested ratios of NPK and what their plants can handle at certain stages?

If so what nutrient line did you use and what feed?
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Its easier to get away with pushing your plants to max nutrient capacity using dry nutes. IMO. Ya just have to do it at the right time of growth. But I have gotten to the point of nute burn on sugar leaves during flower once. Even though it turned out dense AF, and taste and potency was top notch.. I just backed off a little on the next run, and had what I considered my best results too date. The dry nutes I use is roots organics uprising dry line in a stacked super soil wi molasses for the buggers inside. Top dress and covered wi an inch or so of fresh super soil every 15-20 days. JM2C
 
Richard Drysift

Richard Drysift

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Adi1989 said:
Hi guys, Im looking to push my plants to the max they can handle without creating burn, does anyone know what causes burn? Is it the Nitrogen? Phosphorus? or Potasium? or all three?

Has anyone tested ratios of NPK and what their plants can handle at certain stages?

If so what nutrient line did you use and what feed?
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Contrary to popular belief giving plants more food than they actually need will not grow them bigger or better or faster. Giving the maximum allowable dosage of any nutrient is asking for burn. Why do nutrients burn plants?
because plants have not evolved to be force fed by absorbing soluble npk directly. They will suck up what is available if it is there but since there is nothing to regulate their intake they keep on feeding like it is water. They don’t know how to stop. They will keep on sucking it up as they need water even if it is so toxic it kills them.
In contrast all green flowering plants in nature absorb nutrients through symbiosis with mycorrhizae fungI. Mycorrhizae fungi attached to the root system trades a molecule of hydrogen for a molecule of whatever nutrients the plant needs in what is known as a cation exchange. Plants uptake only what they need from the soil and leave the rest. You almost never see nutrient toxicity in living soil grows because nutrients are released too slowly to cause a burn.
 
Wizzlebiz

Wizzlebiz

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Richard Drysift said:
Contrary to popular belief giving plants more food than they actually need will not grow them bigger or better or faster. Giving the maximum allowable dosage of any nutrient is asking for burn. Why do nutrients burn plants?
because plants have not evolved to be force fed by absorbing soluble npk directly. They will suck up what is available if it is there but since there is nothing to regulate their intake they keep on feeding like it is water. They don’t know how to stop. They will keep on sucking it up as they need water even if it is so toxic it kills them.
In contrast all green flowering plants in nature absorb nutrients through symbiosis with mycorrhizae fungI. Mycorrhizae fungi attached to the root system trades a molecule of hydrogen for a molecule of whatever nutrients the plant needs in what is known as a cation exchange. Plants uptake only what they need from the soil and leave the rest. You almost never see nutrient toxicity in living soil grows because nutrients are released too slowly to cause a burn.
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What I got from this is plants eat just like most people here in America.


Just zero self regulation what so ever ;)
 
Richard Drysift

Richard Drysift

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Wizzlebiz said:
What I got from this is plants eat just like most people here in America.


Just zero self regulation what so ever ;)
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To use your analogy ...bottled nutrients are sorta like fast food: usually owed by corporations, not really good for you but satisfies hunger, easy and fast but also expensive
..organic soil is sorta like farm to table food: A lot of work but very tasty, simple, healthy, and high energy without all the sugar and fat and fillers
The plants don’t care; they’ll eat whatever you give them but no matter what you put into the medium it will eventually be deposited into the flesh of the plant. Soil composition and/or mineral content is why wine grapes taste different from different regions. Garbage in garbage out...
 
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