NPK RAW, create your own nutes!

garybo

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My girls love their dose of RAW's N,P & K, given with their Mega Crop feeding. The seedlings through vegetable stage get NK; at preflower I add in P and in flower I only give PK.

On another note, one of my seedlings stayed extremely small going into vegetation. I read on the RAW's web page to soak the plant along with the soil and pot in a solution of NK water for 2 weeks. So I thought what the heck do I have to loose and did as directed. The plant never went into any kind of shock or did she loose any of her green color. By the end of the 2 weeks the plant had doubled in size and though not as mature as her sisters, she's working hard to thrive.

As far as the price, I'm OK with the cost as long as the buds smoke as good as they look during growth. My first batch should be ripe and ready in a few weeks and I'll know for sure then if the cost equals the quality.
 

PhatNuggz

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I use NPK Raw.

NPK makes a complete mixes for both veg and bloom

Their individual salts are available in 2 oz packets I add a pinch of silica, yucca,, enzymes, aminos, and microbes and since I have a 1/2g of Emerald Harvest CaMg, I mix it in too
 

garybo

Well-Known Member
So that's your assessment...clearly you are NOT a chemist

Salts come in grades, the lower the grade the higher the percentage of contaminants
Correct, I am not a chemist. Reading through this thread and thankful to Dirty Jerz for starting this tread, I'm learning more about the chemical makeup of nutes.

I'm a grower, have been growing perhaps more years than the age of half the folks here.

Yes, it is my assessment, based on watching plants grow for over 50 years.

Concerning the salts, I use 6.0 (+/-) water, check PPM periodicity and flush often, perhaps this alleviates the salts. My plants are looking great, including the clones which will be ripe in a few weeks.

If it’s not broken, no need to make repairs.

Spark up
 

MrPuffTuff

Active Member
I can agree that the prices of these products at least on amazon are not fairly priced. But it's the difference between a 300$ ballast and a 60$ ballast or a 990$ Valoya and a 180$ Viparspectra.

These Pioneers take their job seriously and investigate, research and develop wonderful products and after spending Time and MONEY to figure out what works best they release it to make their money back only to have assholes reverse engineer it and sell it mass production style and undercut the market. With these fertilizer salts in particular, hydroponic marketing does take its toll.

It's the same as the age old debate of Chinese made and "Product of USA"
If no one bought the Pioneers product and only went to buy the cheaper market undercut than we would lose out on the R&D department of wonderful businesses and the advances in the industry would halt. If this continues, we will have discouraged any growth in our favorite market and stay complacent.

Guaranteed analysis, customer support and above all research and development are what the "extra cost" goes to.

Go to Miracle gro's website and try to find a guaranteed analysis. They change from state to state. Using urea (anhydrous ammonia (NH3) and potassium nitrate) as a main source of nitrogen is a joke. Ammonium Sulfate is both sustainable and more effective at Nitrogen delivery. Phosphoric acid? Your joking right? You mean hydroponic Ph down? Not a source of phosphorus for plants. Phosphorus gets locked up in soil the easiest, meaning it creates a bond with soil particles and becomes unavailable for plants and you want to use solid phosphorus as a fertilizer?? Just No.
Mono-ammonium Phosphate (MAP) the bond between ammonium and phosphate is strong enough to stay water soluble. Next you're going to say rock phosphate (Only soluble with Ph <5.5 and non sustainable) or even calcium phosphate (95% water insoluble IT'S OUR BONES) can be a fertilizer because you saw the word phosphorus in it.

Support research and development, it's the real reason THC came up from <10% to an astonishing 35% not a few decades of breeding. It's (Cannabis) been around longer than our collective sources of information, if THC is used as a self defense mechanism it would have raised the content all on it's own just like it figured out how to make it and use it, it could have figured out how to synthesize it even in low nutrient profiles. Just like microbe synergy.

If you can't afford 10$ for 200 Gallons, I sincerely believe you are either in the wrong hobby, or are very wasteful as I can get away with using <50 gallons per plant on a 4 week veg and 8 week Flower. 36 is something I strived for in an economical grow. (Flushing is a leisure not available to those with a water tank as a source, as well as "Runoff" why flush excess salts instead of using them, Why even get to the point of an excess?)

N+P+K+Kelp+CaMg= 50$ for 200 Gallons. why is this an even an issue when 1 Liter of Advanced nutrients (Yes, it's used commercially too) at 4ml/L makes 64 Gallons and Costs 35 for the GMB and 120$ for con/sensi Grow A+B and Bloom A+B??

Conclusion:
Use what works for you but understand how it could hurt you if someone was buying the "same" product from someone else at half the cost. I mean, you cared for and spent time and resources to create something your proud of and just because someone caught a seed in your bud and grew it with miracle gro, they could undercut you.

Roll It Up my friends.

Truth. That phosphoric acid fool is a hoot.
 

PhatNuggz

Well-Known Member
FYI, this thread is about NPK Raw, a product line that you admitted to not have any experience with, and yet somehow you feel that your lack same entitles you to make a negative comment about it :wall:

I do, and here's why: see all those bottles THAT I ALSO OWN AND USE? They're a RPITA to mix. Note the NPK pic in the upper left corner is a COMPLETE Bloom dry mix, and next to it a COMPLETE veg mix. Easy Peazy

I also use Hydroponic Research Veg + Bloom


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Mandalorian

New Member
FYI, this thread is about NPK Raw, a product line that you admitted to not have any experience with, and yet somehow you feel that your lack same entitles you to make a negative comment about it :wall:

I do, and here's why: see all those bottles THAT I ALSO OWN AND USE? They're a RPITA to mix. Note the NPK pic in the upper left corner is a COMPLETE Bloom dry mix, and next to it a COMPLETE veg mix. Easy Peazy

I also use Hydroponic Research Veg + Bloom
I'm new to growing and have very limited space. I've been doing a lot of reading and watching videos. I like the videos of Harley smith explaining the product which is why I'm researching further. What I haven't been able to find is a grow schedule for autos grown in Coco/pearlite mix in 3-5 gallon bags. In your experience do have one or could point me in the right direction to get one? I just need a nice base to go off of until I get the hang of things.
 

PhatNuggz

Well-Known Member
I'm new to growing and have very limited space. I've been doing a lot of reading and watching videos. I like the videos of Harley smith explaining the product which is why I'm researching further. What I haven't been able to find is a grow schedule for autos grown in Coco/pearlite mix in 3-5 gallon bags. In your experience do have one or could point me in the right direction to get one? I just need a nice base to go off of until I get the hang of things.

Sorry, my method is hydroponics
 
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