Northern Grow Lights TITAN w/ SST-X and Vero Gen7 72v 90 CRI Grow

Humanrob

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I recently picked up a 3x3 and I've got some seeds popping in it, so I'm weeks behind you but I am very interested to see how your grow goes. That is an awesome looking and functioning light, I love that the edge of the envelope keeps moving further out.
 

NapalmD

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Flower day 1

I decided to flip today after cleaning up my CXA scrog which got a little out of hand. I don't want to go through that with this grow. Hurts to pull out fat tops and lowers but sometimes it's a must in the name of airflow.
Cranked up the power to 200w and lowered the light a few inches.
Sinks are still barely warm, even the front left COB which gets no direct breeze from interior fan.
Gave them some ful-power at one tbls per gallon yesterday which I'll add at every feeding from now on and foliar fed with it today.
Curious to see any difference. I've never foliar fed in flower but shouldn't hurt the first 2 weeks and I would think this is when they would benefit from the fulvic the most.

I love the drainage of the pots with the added growstones. They dry out at the same rate as my pots that are 6 weeks in flower without growstones. More feed more weed? We shall see.

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tsmit420

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It's in my 2x2.5 but will be running it in a 3x3 next. Believe me man, I can't wait to crank it to 11!


Yes, the veros appear more white in color. You can check out my current run under the Crees and see for yourself.


Thanks man! You better believe it. I'm gonna push these to the limit. I have to get the screen on ASAP, maybe tonight or tmrw. Have to take a few cuts from that Golden Lemons too. I just have a good feeling about her.
Let the games begin!
the high cri 3000k have a bit more blue then the lower cri they also have i wider spectrum with a bit more green proportionally, high cri is always gunna appear more white even though it has more deep red. that is the point of high cri. 100 cri would be the whitest white like the sun and should be amazing for photography i just ordered 4 3000k 90 cri verbs, with 4 4000 k 80 cri just to add some more efficiency and stretch control. i might add a couple more 3000k as the higher cri already has a little bit more blue almost as much as an 80 cri 3500k its to bad that 3500k gen 7 aren't available in small quantities.

for those who don't know the gen 7 is the answer to the cxb a lot of people think the verbs aren't as good as the cxb because the cxb came out first and all the comparisons are with the gen 6 vero. its an unfortunate problem with the rapid progression of led's 80% of the components and data out there being used by people is already obsolete
 

tsmit420

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glad to see some canadian made heat sinks on there " cool innovations" though they probably came from northern grow lights( I'm a bit of a hypocrite cuz i had the oppurtunity to go with a canadian brand heat sink but instead went with the aavid synjet coolers) the flared design is exceptional for grow rooms it really allows you to take advantage of the natural airflow that always exists when the lights are on. i never got the point of an enclosed heat sink depending on a fan. when there are far more powerful fans going all the time.
 

robincnn

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You could make some sick looking lamps with those sinks. I'd like to see a black Photon type fixture with two of those sticky out the top. Possibly at jaunty angles. Just a mean looking lamp.
Would that work? What would it do to over all efficiency compared to the current active fan set up.
SSTX is too big to fit in the Photon Case. With active cooling in Photon Lamp the Case temps stay under 35C. With COB running 80W passive cooling with SSTX the case temps would be 40C-50C depending on airflow. Small loss due to higher case temps and small gain as there is no need fan power.

Any chance we could see a PAR map of your area? I would love to see as much real world data as possible... seems like this might be the cheapest option to get started. I dont want to recommend blindly
Sorry did not have time to make a PAR map for Titan.

Cool.
Could you share a bit about how that dimmer is wired up in the junction box?
I am using a 50K ohm poteniometer and 5.6K ohm resistor.
Checkout this thread to learn about dimming.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/meanwell-led-drivers-3-in-1-dimming-function.838760/
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optzulu

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the high cri 3000k have a bit more blue then the lower cri they also have i wider spectrum with a bit more green proportionally, high cri is always gunna appear more white even though it has more deep red. that is the point of high cri. 100 cri would be the whitest white like the sun and should be amazing for photography i just ordered 4 3000k 90 cri verbs, with 4 4000 k 80 cri just to add some more efficiency and stretch control. i might add a couple more 3000k as the higher cri already has a little bit more blue almost as much as an 80 cri 3500k its to bad that 3500k gen 7 aren't available in small quantities.

for those who don't know the gen 7 is the answer to the cxb a lot of people think the verbs aren't as good as the cxb because the cxb came out first and all the comparisons are with the gen 6 vero. its an unfortunate problem with the rapid progression of led's 80% of the components and data out there being used by people is already obsolete
good to know I wanted to order some vero 29-C 3000k and this was holding me off.
 

Yodaweed

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I was a little off quoting Robin, it was actually lower but again I will be taking heat measurements throughout the grow and that's what counts.

Took a few clones from the 2 Golden Lemons last night and put the screen down today and cleaned them up a little.
I also turned up the power a bit.
I'm eager to flip now but will probably do it on Thanksgiving so I can pour a little gravy in the pots as a blessing :)
Since both these strains grow similarly I should be able to pull off a pretty nice scrog.
Will also start feeding both of my tents some Ful-Power on their next feedings.

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Any reason those are so stretchy? Looks like they are light deprived...
 

NapalmD

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Any reason those are so stretchy? Looks like they are light deprived...
Sure, that seems to be a trait of these Golden Lemon cuts. They and the Underdog og to the right of them which has a stalk and branches double to almost triple the size just came out of my 38w veg tent and I had this light over 24" away for a few days to induce stretch to fill out the screen.

You can go check out my CXA grow with the mothers of these plants that I'm running at 240w to see if those look light deprived too. I will be running this light at even more wattage throughout the grow so follow along and see what happens.
 

Yodaweed

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Sure, that seems to be a trait of these Golden Lemon cuts. They and the Underdog og to the right of them which has a stalk and branches double to almost triple the size just came out of my 38w veg tent and I had this light over 24" away for a few days to induce stretch to fill out the screen.

You can go check out my CXA grow with the mothers of these plants that I'm running at 240w to see if those look light deprived too. I will be running this light at even more wattage throughout the grow so follow along and see what happens.
I grew golden lemons from seed mine wasn't super stretch like that
 

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Tim Fox

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Sure, that seems to be a trait of these Golden Lemon cuts. They and the Underdog og to the right of them which has a stalk and branches double to almost triple the size just came out of my 38w veg tent and I had this light over 24" away for a few days to induce stretch to fill out the screen.

You can go check out my CXA grow with the mothers of these plants that I'm running at 240w to see if those look light deprived too. I will be running this light at even more wattage throughout the grow so follow along and see what happens.
my Headband plant is a lanky girl,, but she is gaining girth now,, some plants just do that,
its going to be a good ride @NapalmD
 

NapalmD

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I know different phenos but your plants look like they are stretching from lack of light.
Like I said I had the light over 24" away to "Induce Stretch" and it was also dimmed down to 100w at that time so hey, maybe they did want more light and don't you worry they're gonna get it and plenty of it!
It's gonna be like the sun in that tent and they're just waiting for it.

 

Yodaweed

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Like I said I had the light over 24" away to "Induce Stretch" and it was also dimmed down to 100w at that time so hey, maybe they did want more light and don't you worry they're gonna get it and plenty of it!
It's gonna be like the sun in that tent and they're just waiting for it.

Yea , not trying to knock you just trying to help they looked like they needed more light . Good luck.
 

NapalmD

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Happy Thanksgiving fellas!
Few pics from today during feeding and a little more tucking which I think I will leave as is now.
The girls are loving these Veros!
Been at 200w since Saturday and will crank up to 250 this Saturday and take some heat sink temps.

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