Non-Organic nutes in Organic Soil, would you for a quick fix? Dire situation

So about a week ago one of my plants starts to yellow on the main fans working it's way up. Since then its gotten worse. That plant was in a smaller pot, all I had at the time, but two more in 5gal have started the same thing. I'm in organic soil. Fed FF Bloom on Saturday, no change. Too wet to hit them harder.
So the question in asking is woukd you feed them with a bite like FF Grow Big just to get the nutes they need as.fast as possible? I ordered some Recharge, but Amazon lost it, nice huh, and the replacement won't be here until Thursday. I know the all around nutes will harm the living soil, but is it worth it ? Any ideas are appreciated, I'm at wits end with this. First and last photo are of the hardest hit plant. Thanks

Deke,
If you have a clear cut deficiency...you can foliar feed to protect your micro-herd. But I'm not quite sure what the situation is. No feed other then the soil at this point?

I'd foliar feed some Epsom salts. May only be a Mg def. which is an easy fix.
JD

JohnDee said:

Deke,
If you have a clear cut deficiency...you can foliar feed to protect your micro-herd. But I'm not quite sure what the situation is. No feed other then the soil at this point?

I'd foliar feed some Epsom salts. May only be a Mg def. which is an easy fix.
JD

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Thanks for the reply JD. I fed Fox farm's bloom nutes on Saturday. I didn't do their max feed, it sounded like a lot. In hind sight I should have, my soil is still moist, so not ready for another dose. But I might anyways. Also some banana juice last week for potassium. Foliar sounds ok, especially because it keeps my soil ok.
I've been seriously contemplating using some Fox Farm's Grow Big nutes. It has macro and micro nutes I'm probably missing. But it will hurt some of the microbes in the soil, which the recharge can help with later on when I finally get it, I think.

So, million dollar question, would you feed all around nutes to try to kick start the healing( hoping that it will do that), or keep feeding the bloom nutes and foliar some Epsom salt and wait for the Recharge?

Deketx said:

Thanks for the reply JD. I fed Fox farm's bloom nutes on Saturday. I didn't do their max feed, it sounded like a lot. In hind sight I should have, my soil is still moist, so not ready for another dose. But I might anyways. Also some banana juice last week for potassium. Foliar sounds ok, especially because it keeps my soil ok.
I've been seriously contemplating using some Fox Farm's Grow Big nutes. It has macro and micro nutes I'm probably missing. But it will hurt some of the microbes in the soil, which the recharge can help with later on when I finally get it, I think.

So, million dollar question, would you feed all around nutes to try to kick start the healing( hoping that it will do that), or keep feeding the bloom nutes and foliar some Epsom salt and wait for the Recharge?

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I would foliar feed the mag add a little bit of a surfactant to the sprayer and use the rest at the roots and then foliar feed the mag in a couple of days using the rest at the roots as well and then wait for the recharge.

1 tsp per gal of epsom salt

pik off all the yellow leaves ..their done.

Thanks for the advice! Much appreciated. How much of the Epsom salt water would you use? Thanks again.

what ppm you feeding at? couple of pics look over fed burnt to me

and stop the recharge two weeks before chop

1 tsp per gal

that gets you about 250 ppm

The soil has been taking care of the feeding for me, until now. I've fed only once this last Saturday, Fox Farm Bloom nutes. So ppm, hasn't been something I've had to watch. I might look burnt because I've got multiple deficiencies?

When I foliar feed, do I spray the buds as well?
And I've heard that the water drops on the leaves can magnify the light and burn the plants. If so, how do you avoid this?
Thanks again for all the help, I was/am a little freaked out about this, lol.

ok not burnt then I guess that you havent been feeding it any microbes this whole time which in a organic grow you really need to have been. Yes I know you have some on the way...

You really cant avoid hitting the buds and it wont matter, it rains in nature. just have good airflow and maybe shake the branches an hour after you spray to knock off anything left over.

you should spray lights out but if that isnt possible you can raise the lights for the hour it will take to dry out.

Not a pro but you better feed that girl.. if you’ve only feed once.. she is probably depleted.. I suggest getting the fox farm grow /feed guide.. maybe find you a flowering tea... those buds won’t like being starved out...small doses and build up from there..jm2c... I’ve tried fox farm soil only.. never again

Thanks y'all. @Bernie420 unfortunately no I haven't put any microbes back in. I wasn't aware until last week that I needed to do that. Kills me, my first living soil grow, first grow in a long time for that matter, and after thinking I did my due diligence, I f####d up. Something as simple as adding some microbes in during watering and I wouldn't be in this mess.
Hempire, yeah, she got depleted fast. It happened quick, and I wasn't prepared. Then add that Amazon lost my microbes, and they aren't available locally near me. And I'm almost 5-6 days even further behind. She'll get the bloom nutes and some Epsom salt foliar spray tomorrow. Also going to make some Ca feed to add as well. Fingers crossed.

My bad I thought you were feeding it organic inputs or something. I read the post wrong then read hempire post and re-read the thread. Everything I said still applies.

So what does organic soil mean? is that a super soil thing and yes you might want to feed it some bloom nutes until the microbes get there and even feed it bloom nutes at 1/4 strength or something for the rest of the grow.

Deketx said:

Thanks y'all. @Bernie420 unfortunately no I haven't put any microbes back in. I wasn't aware until last week that I needed to do that. Kills me, my first living soil grow, first grow in a long time for that matter, and after thinking I did my due diligence, I f####d up. Something as simple as adding some microbes in during watering and I wouldn't be in this mess.
Hempire, yeah, she got depleted fast. It happened quick, and I wasn't prepared. Then add that Amazon lost my microbes, and they aren't available locally near me. And I'm almost 5-6 days even further behind. She'll get the bloom nutes and some Epsom salt foliar spray tomorrow. Also going to make some Ca feed to add as well. Fingers crossed.

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You cant learn if you dont fail. it'll be better next time. You'll still get decent bud just not as much of it if you do everything correctly going forward.

Bernie420 said:

My bad I thought you were feeding it organic inputs or something. I read the post wrong then read hempire post and re-read the thread. Everything I said still applies.

So what does organic soil mean? is that a super soil thing and yes you might want to feed it some bloom nutes until the microbes get there and even feed it bloom nutes at 1/4 strength or something for the rest of the grow.

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Will do. The nutes have several different amounts to feed. I'll attach a pic of the back of the bottle with the diff. Feeding instructions. Let me know what you think. Go light, reg. Or let 'em have it! Lol. Thanks

Deketx said:

Will do. The nutes have several different amounts to feed. I'll attach a pic of the back of the bottle with the diff. Feeding instructions. Let me know what you think. Go light, reg. Or let 'em have it! Lol. Thanks
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feed feed water feed water feed feed water at a low ppm if they were healthy then feed water water feed feed water water feed water feed water water. And that would be at a higher ppm 800-950. Y ou can mix it up with how healthy your plant are it doesnt all have to feed water feed water. What you need to know is that your plants are stressed and ill and you do not want to dump a shit ton of nutes on it right now what you want to do is just cruise them to the chop. I think feeding at 550-600 ppms would be ok.

with that mess i just typed you know you feed it 1000ppms before then maybe just a couple of waterings is in store for the next time, if you feed it a lot less then a couple of feedings might be in store.

The nutes accumulate in the pot plant doesnt use up everything you give it each time, the microbes take care of it all.

I think you should do a general feeding then do a feeding of the 3tbs then water then maybe keep it at the 3tbs for any other feedings. I dont know what the ppms are but in soil the microbes buffer it but what hits the roots gets absorbed. Having a quality ppm meter is clutch to growing.

You should watch all the harley videos as well.

Synthetic nutes won't kill your microherd. That's a myth.

Thank you for the reply Bernie. Yeah I know I need a ppm meter and ph meter and some other things as well. I'll be better prepared on my next grow. I'll watch the video as well.

PJ Diaz said:

Synthetic nutes won't kill your microherd. That's a myth.

Does Fertilizer Kill Soil Bacteria?

Do synthetic fertilizers kill bacteria in soil? Is the soil food web right? Find out what really happens in the soil after adding fertilizer.

www.gardenmyths.com

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I've read this at several places. And they say even if some are killed the Recharge/ microbes will fix it. Sounds good to me?