NO! On Prop 19

I could go into detail for pages explaining on and on my views and correcting people but...

I would just like to say that every educated activist thats dedicated their lifes to cannabis in california and knows how these things work inside/out (it's their life), is going to vote yes. It is a complex issue, people are very confused but it's something you NEED to go out and vote for. It's going to be messy and not all fun and games with an all out war with the feds but it's a matter of being the first to lead the way for other states and towns move in the right direction. It's not much different from medical marijuana, except maybe harder.

Peace

medicalsb420 said:

vote fuck no! if you truly love this plant- protect her! VOTE NO!

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Yea, keep mother nature illegal! That makes complete sense. You sir are a fucking idiot.

Loving this planet by keeping part of it illegal. Wow, The world really doesn't have a bright future when someone tries to tie that together.

poke smot420 said:

vote no! i'll be out of a job

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you're pathetic.

prohibition has to end somewhere. if you want to continue making money off of a BLACK MARKET, forget voting no and take your stupid ass the fuck out of California. don't ruin it for everyone. please?

Serapis said:

I have a 4' x 4' secret Jardin with a 600w light and I'm estatic about having it. I love the hobby and the yields. The problem is, my state doesn't even recognize marijuana as having medical benefits. I use only 16' sqaure and it is more than enough for me and my friends. Do you realize what a 4'x4' or a 5'x5' scrog will produce? It won't produce the hundreds of pounds that your outdoor grows do, but I'd love to have a legal 5'x5'. You can easily pull a pound every 5-6 weeks if you work it right.

Look at it this way, a 5' x 5' garden is certainly bigger than a 0' x 0' garden. Don't mention 215 sizes in rebuttal, as they aren't the same thing. I grow for me and two others. We aren't able to smoke 16 ounces in 6 weeks. An ounce lasts me two weeks. What do you think is an appropriate sized garden for recreational use?

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however big you want to make it.

i feel there should be no limit and i am NOT willing to "take what i can get".

those are my feelings. you don't have to accept them.

tardis said:

VOTE YES, or just go to jail now and eliminate the middle man.

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you don't go to jail for an ounce. you get a ticket.

WeedSavesLives said:

I could go into detail for pages explaining on and on my views and correcting people but...

I would just like to say that every educated activist thats dedicated their lifes to cannabis in california and knows how these things work inside/out (it's their life), is going to vote yes. It is a complex issue, people are very confused but it's something you NEED to go out and vote for. It's going to be messy and not all fun and games with an all out war with the feds but it's a matter of being the first to lead the way for other states and towns move in the right direction. It's not much different from medical marijuana, except maybe harder.

Peace

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Bullshit.

Dennis Peron, Jack Herer(before he passed on) and several others of my acquaintance oppose this piece of junk.

Keep it straight, OK?

yeson19 said:

you're pathetic.

prohibition has to end somewhere. if you want to continue making money off of a BLACK MARKET, forget voting no and take your stupid ass the fuck out of California. don't ruin it for everyone. please?

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Think of all the poor slave traders when the laws put them out of business. I'm sure they put their dollar bills above other peoples freedoms too

veggiegardener said:

Bullshit.

Dennis Peron, Jack Herer(before he passed on) and several others of my acquaintance oppose this piece of junk.

Keep it straight, OK?

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Jack Herers family has been on the frontline on this saying he would have supported it 100% if he were alive. VOTE YES!

tardis said:

Jack Herers family has been on the frontline on this saying he would have supported it 100% if he were alive. VOTE YES!

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"jack herers FAMILY"

he himself openly opposed it. find a clip of him stating otherwise.

sooooo tacky to even bring up his name though.

fdd2blk said:

"jack herers FAMILY"

he himself openly opposed it. find a clip of him stating otherwise.

sooooo tacky to even bring up his name though.

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If mentioning the FACT that JH opposed P19 is in poor taste, my apologies.

Blanket statements such as the one above make my jaws tight.

Very few of those who have been around for decades, support this poorly written junk.

fdd2blk said:

"jack herers FAMILY"

he himself openly opposed it. find a clip of him stating otherwise.

sooooo tacky to even bring up his name though.

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I agree, it is tacky to use Herer's name, so why did you bring it up?

desert dude said:

I agree, it is tacky to use Herer's name, so why did you bring it up?

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i wasn't the one who did.

fdd2blk said:

i wasn't the one who did.

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First time I saw it was in post #587, by you.

desert dude said:

First time I saw it was in post #587, by you.

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you are HIGHLY mistaken. i did not post post #587.

fdd2blk said:

however big you want to make it.

i feel there should be no limit and i am NOT willing to "take what i can get".

those are my feelings. you don't have to accept them.

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So rather than start somewhere and begin with 25 square feet, it is your opinion that 0.0 square feet as current is better? that doesn't surpise me coming from a guy that had to quit his job so he could tend to his forest of MJ plants. that seems rather selfish. This is not a jab at FFD, but a comment on all the opposition I have read here at RIU. It seems every last person against 19 has a 215 card and most of them are growing surplus pot to sell to dispensaries, tax free......

It boils down to opposition because of conflict of interests.... Maybe 215 needs to be interpreted by a court and those carrying cards because of allergies or discomforts or because they sought out a quack Dr and paid hundreds for a recommendation have their rights revoked. If 215 was enforced as it was intended at it's inception, as a compassionate use law for seriously ill Californians, many in opposition would be for prop 19. Their attitude today is that anyone that won't get get a 215 card is just lazy... That is plain wrong and an abuse of 215, no matter what excuses you make...

desert dude said:

First time I saw it was in post #587, by you.

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Better go check, it was Veggiegardner....

fdd2blk said:

you are HIGHLY mistaken. i did not post post #587.

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My apologies, FDD. It was veggie who made post 587. I can't keep you luddites straight.

where do i say i'm worried about prop 19 causing me any conflict? i keep repeating over and over again, "PROP 19 will bring me MORE sales". half my friends smoke in fear of others finding out because of it's "taboo". if it passes they will call me twice as often for twice as much. i WANT prop 19 to pass. i just don't want to be the one voting for all the restrictions. you can continue to paint me/us as the bad guys, but i think we have deeper reasons then our pocketbooks.

i make no excuses.

LOL!

Methinks it was a good choice, ignoring DD.

desert dude said:

My apologies, FDD. It was veggie who made post 587. I can't keep you luddites straight.

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maybe if you calmed down a little.