NFTG. Nectar For The Gods

bubba73

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Ok so i fed these things 950ppm on sunday and now the slurries are back down to 120ppm 6.6ph. This will be there 5th feed with no tea yet. I dont get why i cant get the soil in the 200-500 range my shit is barely at 100ppm 24 hours after i feed them. Should i jump up to late veg? Or give them a tea. I starved these things at the beginning and now i cant keep them fed for the life of me lol. Fucking hogs. Im feeding less volume more times and there still sucking the pots dry of all nutes. Im feeding 2tsp/gallon of gaia, medusa, athenas, slf, herc, 1tsp of demeters, and zeus. Ppm are around 900-950. Foliar feeding posidenzime 5ml/quart once a week.
you can go to late veg and feed them 3/4 strength , you can do a mix of tea/feed if you want , till your ppm gets higher , then you can just do a tea on tea days ....
 

BunkerKing

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Yah @loop718

I just transplanted two clones that were in 1 gallon pots with 50% coco 50% perlite.
Even feeding every 2-3 days.

There was still enough water not draining at the bottom and center of the pot. Root dev wasnt insane. They were ok but not what i was going for.
The center rootball was super wet, but sides were dry. Most of the roots were going in the top few inches were it would dry out faster.

They just dont really drink much water in early/mid veg. They wont grow if they are sitting in a very moist environment. We need massive root systems for pushing hard in flower.

Im switching to a fabric pot to help drainage abit more. Along with going back to 3 day wait, and with less water. Until they start drinking more.
As its just hurting rather than helping.
 

loop718

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Yah @loop718

I just transplanted two clones that were in 1 gallon pots with 50% coco 50% perlite.
Even feeding every 2-3 days.

There was still enough water not draining at the bottom and center of the pot. Root dev wasnt insane. They were ok but not what i was going for.
The center rootball was super wet, but sides were dry. Most of the roots were going in the top few inches were it would dry out faster.

They just dont really drink much water in early/mid veg. They wont grow if they are sitting in a very moist environment. We need massive root systems for pushing hard in flower.

Im switching to a fabric pot to help drainage abit more. Along with going back to 3 day wait, and with less water. Until they start drinking more.
As its just hurting rather than helping.
I hear ya man!! I have 7gallon fabrics for when there ready for the transplant. Pots are drying quicker for me now im feeding a little less. There eating everything so fast so my soil is bone dry of any food. Idk what the limit is... geuss i keep pushing lil by lil till they tell me to stop. This is my first run with nectar. I already know what ill do diff on next run. Overall i fuckin love this shit hahaha. I like seeing i fed them a certain number then looking in 2 days and they swallowed it all whole lol.
 

BunkerKing

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I hear ya man!! I have 7gallon fabrics for when there ready for the transplant. Pots are drying quicker for me now im feeding a little less. There eating everything so fast so my soil is bone dry of any food. Idk what the limit is... geuss i keep pushing lil by lil till they tell me to stop. This is my first run with nectar. I already know what ill do diff on next run. Overall i fuckin love this shit hahaha. I like seeing i fed them a certain number then looking in 2 days and they swallowed it all whole lol.
Same here. This stuff is an entirely new world to me, but love it. Plants speak for themselves.
 

loop718

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I definitely foliar Poseidon, also alternate Kraken, athenas, aphrodites.....I use yucca with all foliars except BK. It just depends on what I need for a growth stage. And always with liquid microbial, like photo, EM1, Mammoth, etc....
Irie were you saying you foliar the microbes with the nectar nutes at the same time? Or do you aternate between nutes and microbe foliars? I just got some em-1 im going to foliar with. How much / quart is a good starting point?
 

loop718

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Yo im bored and reading the bible for like the 5th time. I noticed in the slurry section it says to mix with ph’d water to 7.0? Your supposed to ph your water before you slurry it?
 

bubba73

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Yo im bored and reading the bible for like the 5th time. I noticed in the slurry section it says to mix with ph’d water to 7.0? Your supposed to ph your water before you slurry it?
with RO water it should be ph 7.0 ..... if using sink water the ph can be anything , depends on your water supply .... with the Bible comes notes and a lot you be taking or should be taken .....
 

loop718

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with RO water it should be ph 7.0 ..... if using sink water the ph can be anything , depends on your water supply .... with the Bible comes notes and a lot you be taking or should be taken .....
So ph my r/o to 7.0 then mix with the soil? My r/o comes out way higher then that.
 

IrieRoots

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Irie were you saying you foliar the microbes with the nectar nutes at the same time? Or do you aternate between nutes and microbe foliars? I just got some em-1 im going to foliar with. How much / quart is a good starting point?
Yes put the microbes in with nectar foliars. 5 ml per qt of EM1 is good.
 

IrieRoots

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So ph my r/o to 7.0 then mix with the soil? My r/o comes out way higher then that.
Ph probes can't test RO, theres nothing in the water to test. Need the paper testing strips or the little dropper kit for fish tanks. I use filtered/spring water or just use my filtered tap when the ph is in an OK range. You should be fine with your RO to slurry without ph adjusting it before. The bible just recommends a neutral starting point and RO is as clean as it gets.
 

loop718

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I have most my plants vegging under t5s. I have a few under led vegging. The ones under led are showing alot of calcium def. its spreading all over. Should i hit them with more DD then the rest? All the ones under the t5 are fine.
 

bubba73

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I have most my plants vegging under t5s. I have a few under led vegging. The ones under led are showing alot of calcium def. its spreading all over. Should i hit them with more DD then the rest? All the ones under the t5 are fine.
you can up the DD .. are you sure its calcium and not mag def ?with low slurry #s there just starving .....
 

IrieRoots

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I have most my plants vegging under t5s. I have a few under led vegging. The ones under led are showing alot of calcium def. its spreading all over. Should i hit them with more DD then the rest? All the ones under the t5 are fine.
Yeah 40W LED strip I gives me the same issue and Bubbas right, its usually magnesium too. So up the Demeters and raise the lights a little bit.
 

loop718

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you can up the DD .. are you sure its calcium and not mag def ?with low slurry #s there just starving .....
Could be mag. 2 of them look like mag with yellowing between veins and 2 look like calcium with brown spots on leaves. But its only the ones under the led. Im going to start foliating more of the main nutes more. They eat the pot so fast so Im gna start supplying through leaf surface.
 

BunkerKing

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Also loop. Wow the plants look so much healthier dude. Saw the picture from last page. Nice work, glad to hear they are drinking more!!
 

loop718

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Also loop. Wow the plants look so much healthier dude. Saw the picture from last page. Nice work, glad to hear they are drinking more!!
Thanks man!! Ya they look awsome right now the ones under my led need a little help. All of them still need some work i cant keep them fed lol. I bet i could really be pushing if i got this soil inline. Still happy with what i got. First run already learned tons! Thats what its about for me.
 

BunkerKing

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Left: Clone bought from a store.
Right: Cutting from that clone using MM,GM,Zeus.

Wow... They dont even look the same. For a minute i thought that was PP. Nope thats mk ultra and NFTG lol.
@bubba73 would you start hitting that with Early Veg + 1ml BK per QT foliar?

Or too soon.


The clones at the stores are always so so sick. Feel bad for all those new people who struggle with the same issues. Took awhile to get that all sorted. Before i just grew from seed (autos). Not having a tap root was another learning curve.
 

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