Newbie indoor grower - need evaluation

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mikeyboy2121

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Looks like this girl got starved. There should be a lot more growth and buddage, and the yellow leaves are a sign that she is underfed. Can you detail what you are feeding her for us? I hope you have many more plants in your garden. A 400 watt hps should be putting out a lot more bud than that.
 
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mikeyboy2121

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Using the GH line and coco, I would recommend using Grateful Head's Coco Formula, as it was specifically designed for use with coco.

Veg - Mid Flower Formula (Feed this formula from early on in veg till week 5 or 6 of flower

6ml micro
9ml bloom
per gallon of nute mix
ph'ed to 5.8 - 5.9

Feed this formula with every watering

Bloom Formula: From week 5 or 6 till flush

15 ml bloom
Ph'ed to 5.8 - 5.9
per gallon of water

Flush:

Just plain water for the last 10 days

This is just a rough outline I'd read up on it as there's a little more to it. Use this formula and you won't have any problems with feeding in the future.
 
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prowler21

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mikeyboy2121 said:
Using the GH line and coco, I would recommend using Grateful Head's Coco Formula, as it was specifically designed for use with coco.

Veg - Mid Flower Formula (Feed this formula from early on in veg till week 5 or 6 of flower

6ml micro
9ml bloom
per gallon of nute mix
ph'ed to 5.8 - 5.9

Feed this formula with every watering

Bloom Formula: From week 5 or 6 till flush

15 ml bloom
Ph'ed to 5.8 - 5.9
per gallon of water

Flush:

Just plain water for the last 10 days

This is just a rough outline I'd read up on it as there's a little more to it. Use this formula and you won't have any problems with feeding in the future.
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very good information. i need to apply this before its too late i guess :)
 
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mikeyboy2121

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Yeah man it's meant for people using just coco not a mix, but if I were you I'd use it. Grateful Head knows what's up he's like a scientist when it comes to nutes and ratios and plant health. If you're using GH nutes and coco this is custom made mix for that. Since you're at week 6 I'd apply the 6/9 formula for a week to help give them a little more nitrogen since the leaves are yellow, then switch to the Bloom formula for a week, then flush for 10 days. Read up on this formula there's a whole thread on ICMAG and start fresh for next round. Good luck brother! :mrgreen:
 
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prowler21

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thanks bro i just put in water a new 'white widow seed' for fresh start :) can you also please send me a link that you mentioned about? i couldnt find in ICMAG if you dont mind :)
 
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mikeyboy2121

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Sure here ya go.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=55683

This is a HUGE thread but definitely worth the read. You will have a clear understanding of nutrients and your plants basic needs.

The formula has evolved since the thread began, and is essentially what I posted. If you go to the last few pages of the thread I believe the most recent version is posted. Essentially it is the original formula, minus the epsom salts as Head decided it was not necessary.
 
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prowler21

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i am a little bit confused about nutrients section. correct me if am wrong pls.

i need to apply 6/9 formula mixing with water every week and every day of week or just examine soil is dry or not? then shifting to other one as same as previous then flush

little bit help here :)
 
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mikeyboy2121

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What exactly is your medium? I remember you saying it's a coco/soil mix but specifics will be helpful. In straight coco you need to keep it wet so you feed daily, as it's pretty much impossible to overwater. In a mix it will depend on how much coco and how much soil is in it, because you absolutely can overwater in soil which will have it's own set of problems. So the ratio of each will be very helpful in giving you an answer.

How often do you currently water?

Also if you are able, what kind of water is it just tap? What is the ph?
 
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prowler21

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i am watering every week. and ph is 7.1 of water. i see now...cause coco is dry all the timeeeeeee. fuck meeee :) danke mate
 
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mikeyboy2121

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If it's mostly coco then I'd be watering daily with the formula. Yeah if it dries out then the salts in the nutes crystalize fucking up your ph and you can get all kinds of problems. I don't see nute lockout though in your pics just underfeeding.

If it's more 50/50 I'd be careful with watering. The thing that can happen if you overwater in soil is the roots suffocate and die, then you get all kinds of deficiencies.

I use either a 'mix coir' that comes in a dry brick that expands with water, or I use pure coir brick and then add perlite to help aerate it more. Roots need lots of oxygen.

The best coco setups feed/water multiple times daily. Every time you water it pulls fresh air into the coco. The results are better health, more vigor, bigger and better plants. All of this is explained in that thread. It's a huge thread, but a must read IMO.
 
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prowler21

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i am crystal clear with when to water and when to nut. thx you very much mate. i owe you one big bud of trainwreck or white widow whichever you want :)
 
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Krondizzel

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mikeyboy2121 said:
Using the GH line and coco, I would recommend using Grateful Head's Coco Formula, as it was specifically designed for use with coco.

Veg - Mid Flower Formula (Feed this formula from early on in veg till week 5 or 6 of flower

6ml micro
9ml bloom
per gallon of nute mix
ph'ed to 5.8 - 5.9

Feed this formula with every watering

Bloom Formula: From week 5 or 6 till flush

15 ml bloom
Ph'ed to 5.8 - 5.9
per gallon of water

Flush:

Just plain water for the last 10 days

This is just a rough outline I'd read up on it as there's a little more to it. Use this formula and you won't have any problems with feeding in the future.
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6ml micro and 9ml bloom? per gallon? uhh... your PPM is gonna be through the roof if you do that.

In 4 gallons, I mix, 2tsp of each Gro, micro, bloom, calimagic, and instagreen and that put me at 430ppm. (10tsp) (4 gallons water)

I am half tempted to go make a batch of your mix and see just how insane the PPM level is lol
 
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