420grower.cali
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So im conaidering growing some northern lights but i need to know if i can grow two of them in a 2×4×5 tent
newbie growin northern lights
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xSwimToTheMoon
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At least 3-4. I'd say.
420grower.cali
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Really? Ur sure? Sounds more like sog to me which is gr8 just not in this situation
xSwimToTheMoon
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Sorry, I was assuming you were doing autos?
2 sounds about right for 1 month veg in a 4x8 with photos. It will be cramped, but I would at least try.
420grower.cali
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2×4 bro not 4×8
k_elliott99
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I couldnt grow 1 in a 4x4 none the less 2 in a 2x4. Quality>quantity.
Nummingtons
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How many plants you put in your grow area is completely dependent on what kind of grow you want to do. Pretty much every one who has commented is right in one way or another, and of course everyone has their favorite way to do it that they believe is better than all others LOL. Here are some options I would recommend to a new guy with your space.
You can run 6 plants in 1gal pots if you wish, this is known as a sea of green. If you choose to go this route there will be no veg time just put the clones in 1gal pots and put them in flower. Remember these plants are packed pretty tight and will need to be lollypopped and trimmed often in order to ensure good light penetration. There are several benefits to this type of growing, one is that you can harvest more times a year. Another perk is that you only need an HPS bulb if you use HID lighting meaning you save money on bulbs. Lastly for people with height restrictions this is a great way to get good yields without growing tall plants. In so far as yield is concerned people get anything from 7g to 1oz per plant using this method. Yield will depend on your ability, grow set up, and nutes. So lets say you do 10g a plant which is really doable you would harvest 60g that's a little over 2oz not bad with no veg time. Now to the negatives one is kinda obvious if you are top watering it can become a pain in the but to water all those plants, six is pretty easy though. Like I mentioned erlier if you are not aggressive with pruning your plants you can have light issues which can lead to mildew and plenty of other problems.
The other option I would recommend for you is a standard grow, do a little veg, do a little flower, grow some rad bud. A pretty standard rule is that you will need about 2sqft per plant if you plan to veg. You have 8sqft however you are dealing with a rectangle not a square so you really only have room for 2 plants even though it seems by the square footage that you have room for 4. That being said I have a 2x4 grow space and have no problem growing three plants in 3gal buckets. If you do choose to go for three make sure not to veg to long or you will run into trouble. Another issue you need to be aware of is that you only have 5 foot of height. I don't know what type of light you are running but if you are using an HID you will need at least 18in of clearance between your light and your canopy depending on wattage, you may need more. Plus the light itself will eat up 12 to 20in so if we put the low numbers together you loose 30in of space, that's half your tent. This means that you are going to want your canopy to be no higher than 30 in. One last thing to take into account is that a 3gal pot is about 10in tall so in the end you want your finished plant to be 20in tall playing by the rules. I don't think you would have much problem with 24in plants. If you are using CFLs none of this applies, or perhaps better to say it applies but the numbers are drastically different. If you are using LEDs ask someone else IM not sure what they need and I don't want to lie to you. What this all amounts to is that you will want to veg your plants until they are about a foot tall then put them into flower, they should double in size while in flower giving you the height that you want. It can take anywhere from a week to three weeks to get a plant to a foot tall depending on your set up either way its irrelevant how long it takes to get there just dot let it get to tall. If you are using CFLs I would stick to this same height because unless you have a really heavy duty CFL set up you not going to get good light penetration past 2 to 2.5 feet. To be clear IM not saying you can't grow plants taller than 2 feet using CFLs, but a good number of people who use them don't use enough of them.In so far as yield you should be in basically the same spot you where with the SOG method so anything from 2 to 4oz harvest, again depending on your skill and set up. Basically here it is man if you use this method start out with two plants in three gallon pots and try not to go over 2 to 2.5 feet. If two plants goes well and you think you can pull off three do it.
Keep in mind these are not the only two methods out there for growing just the two that I think would work best for your situation. Speaking of your situation how are you set up, what kind of lights,venting, etcetera? Hope this helped happy growing.
You can run 6 plants in 1gal pots if you wish, this is known as a sea of green. If you choose to go this route there will be no veg time just put the clones in 1gal pots and put them in flower. Remember these plants are packed pretty tight and will need to be lollypopped and trimmed often in order to ensure good light penetration. There are several benefits to this type of growing, one is that you can harvest more times a year. Another perk is that you only need an HPS bulb if you use HID lighting meaning you save money on bulbs. Lastly for people with height restrictions this is a great way to get good yields without growing tall plants. In so far as yield is concerned people get anything from 7g to 1oz per plant using this method. Yield will depend on your ability, grow set up, and nutes. So lets say you do 10g a plant which is really doable you would harvest 60g that's a little over 2oz not bad with no veg time. Now to the negatives one is kinda obvious if you are top watering it can become a pain in the but to water all those plants, six is pretty easy though. Like I mentioned erlier if you are not aggressive with pruning your plants you can have light issues which can lead to mildew and plenty of other problems.
The other option I would recommend for you is a standard grow, do a little veg, do a little flower, grow some rad bud. A pretty standard rule is that you will need about 2sqft per plant if you plan to veg. You have 8sqft however you are dealing with a rectangle not a square so you really only have room for 2 plants even though it seems by the square footage that you have room for 4. That being said I have a 2x4 grow space and have no problem growing three plants in 3gal buckets. If you do choose to go for three make sure not to veg to long or you will run into trouble. Another issue you need to be aware of is that you only have 5 foot of height. I don't know what type of light you are running but if you are using an HID you will need at least 18in of clearance between your light and your canopy depending on wattage, you may need more. Plus the light itself will eat up 12 to 20in so if we put the low numbers together you loose 30in of space, that's half your tent. This means that you are going to want your canopy to be no higher than 30 in. One last thing to take into account is that a 3gal pot is about 10in tall so in the end you want your finished plant to be 20in tall playing by the rules. I don't think you would have much problem with 24in plants. If you are using CFLs none of this applies, or perhaps better to say it applies but the numbers are drastically different. If you are using LEDs ask someone else IM not sure what they need and I don't want to lie to you. What this all amounts to is that you will want to veg your plants until they are about a foot tall then put them into flower, they should double in size while in flower giving you the height that you want. It can take anywhere from a week to three weeks to get a plant to a foot tall depending on your set up either way its irrelevant how long it takes to get there just dot let it get to tall. If you are using CFLs I would stick to this same height because unless you have a really heavy duty CFL set up you not going to get good light penetration past 2 to 2.5 feet. To be clear IM not saying you can't grow plants taller than 2 feet using CFLs, but a good number of people who use them don't use enough of them.In so far as yield you should be in basically the same spot you where with the SOG method so anything from 2 to 4oz harvest, again depending on your skill and set up. Basically here it is man if you use this method start out with two plants in three gallon pots and try not to go over 2 to 2.5 feet. If two plants goes well and you think you can pull off three do it.
Keep in mind these are not the only two methods out there for growing just the two that I think would work best for your situation. Speaking of your situation how are you set up, what kind of lights,venting, etcetera? Hope this helped happy growing.
sunny747
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Welcome,Brother.
I have a tent that is even a bit smaller. It's been a great experience. You can grow more bud than you'll ever want or need inside that tent.
My 2 cents... 2 plants LSTd 3 gallon pots. veg them until they are 14 inches high and you have a lot of tops. NL won't stretch much. End result will be a 2-3 ft plant from floor to canopy. You'll roughly get 2 oz per plant depending on your techniques. You will have to learn some training techniques to deal with the 5 ft height, but 5 ft is plenty to start with. It will make you a better grower, actually.
I know all of this because I have been growing in a 20 inch x 40 inch x 5ft tall tent. It's a great place to start.. Don't worry about yield. Worry about healthy plants.
3 plant scrog. 2 x 150w hps
Look at these little beauties. 1 month old. Who could ask for more? Grown in 3 gal pots. In same tent.
I'm going to give you a 3rd cent as a tip. That is to grow autoflower NL strains in the beginning. You will really enjoy the experience and you will end up with a lot of great bud. They are super-easy to grow in soil.
NL Autoflower. 8 weeks from seed. All I did was give her plenty of light, love and some bloom nutes
I have a tent that is even a bit smaller. It's been a great experience. You can grow more bud than you'll ever want or need inside that tent.
My 2 cents... 2 plants LSTd 3 gallon pots. veg them until they are 14 inches high and you have a lot of tops. NL won't stretch much. End result will be a 2-3 ft plant from floor to canopy. You'll roughly get 2 oz per plant depending on your techniques. You will have to learn some training techniques to deal with the 5 ft height, but 5 ft is plenty to start with. It will make you a better grower, actually.
I know all of this because I have been growing in a 20 inch x 40 inch x 5ft tall tent. It's a great place to start.. Don't worry about yield. Worry about healthy plants.
3 plant scrog. 2 x 150w hps
Look at these little beauties. 1 month old. Who could ask for more? Grown in 3 gal pots. In same tent.
I'm going to give you a 3rd cent as a tip. That is to grow autoflower NL strains in the beginning. You will really enjoy the experience and you will end up with a lot of great bud. They are super-easy to grow in soil.
NL Autoflower. 8 weeks from seed. All I did was give her plenty of light, love and some bloom nutes
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xSwimToTheMoon
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Sorry man, I was out of it last night. I meant to day 2x4.
2 photo plants veged for a month would fill that space imo.
It would be cramped, but just plain not wise to do less imo, if growing bud is your goal. 2 plants aren't harder to manage than one.
Honestly for me, if I'm growing and Ive had my eye on the crop it's whole life, it's quantity over quality. The quality will come and will still be coming years from now.
Glad some guys who know what they're doing posted for you!
k_elliott99
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My two cents again I am growing 2 in a 6x8 room lstd and I'm on all 4 walls, well over 10 zips each as an estimate and I'm on day 44 flower. If u can grow one in that tent and its big and beautiful and u can get 4-6 zips why not and save from wasting nutes in 2 or more pots that are gonna yield the same as 1 big one
xSwimToTheMoon
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If you can fill that space with one plant, that's great. I cannot, unfortunately
I should have mentioned my reply was more personal opinion.I can't get the yield with one as I can with 2. After reading more in the coming months and experimenting, maybe. But I would never try learning new tequniques on my only plant.
420grower.cali
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Well i dont have my equipment yet but i planned on using a 400w hps light, in my 2×4 tent, with a 190cfm inline fan carbonscrubber combo, and for soil i was gonna use FFOF and i havent chosen nutes yet, but now im really considering doing sog, sounds like i can get some pretty good yield
k_elliott99
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I just LST from veg and give my girls plenty of room to grow and feed them well and I sit back and watch! I'll post a pic of mine in the flower room in a bit when I fill my humidifyer. Just to give ya an idea. I pull my branches down and tie them to the floor, similar to a scrog net but I can still get in my buckets simply by dropping the string from each branch
Nummingtons
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That's sound like a good set up man better than a lot of new guys. My buddy runs almost the same set up and uses the sog method. He grows great bud and plenty of it. So now that we know what your grow method is and the set up on to the nutes.
I recommend that you grab a bottle of GH Flora Nova, it is a one part flowering nute. This shit is bad ass and so simple you wont believe it. Other than the nova grab a bottle of super thrive its cheap and just plain works.. Don't forget to grab something for pests, that's up to you people are all weird about pest control, but I use Azamax. If you do a little preventative maintenance it will pay off big time. Remember if you choose to use something like Azamax or Azatroll you need to be done using it by second week of flower, even though lots of people take it way past then. Two weeks isn't a lot of time but you can fit one soil drench and a couple of foliage sprays. The soil drench will make the poison systemic causing bugs to die when they bite your plant, and will last you most of flower. Do a good flush and a good wash and none of this will mess with your end product.
This is the recipe I stick to with GH Nova and it has worked well from me, and yes it is pretty much just the Lucas formula with some super thrive thrown in there lol. With the sog your plants are still going to be babies when you put them into flower so start with 4 or 5 ml per gallon of nova with 1ml per gallon Super Thrive. They wont be babies long within a few weeks you should be able to ramp it up to 8ml per gallon and 1ml per gallon Super Thrive. If you have a meter you wont want to exceed 1300 ppm when at max strength, which will be no problem if you fallow this recipe. Of course you can go over this amount and tons of guys do but for your first grow lets make it easy and keep you from burning your plants.
Below are some pics of some plants that were grown in one of my set ups using that recipe. These guys where grown under a 550 real watt 2400 equiv watt CFL light, in a 2x4 area using that exact recipe. Off of two plants I ended up with just under a Qp of good flower with plenty of sugar leaves and popcorn buds to make hash and eatables with. These ladies were about 2.5 to 3ft at harvest.
Just my opinion lots of guys have lots of great recipes out there for you to choose from or hell make your own, this one is just so easy and works so well I though you may like it for a first grow.
Good luck man
I recommend that you grab a bottle of GH Flora Nova, it is a one part flowering nute. This shit is bad ass and so simple you wont believe it. Other than the nova grab a bottle of super thrive its cheap and just plain works.. Don't forget to grab something for pests, that's up to you people are all weird about pest control, but I use Azamax. If you do a little preventative maintenance it will pay off big time. Remember if you choose to use something like Azamax or Azatroll you need to be done using it by second week of flower, even though lots of people take it way past then. Two weeks isn't a lot of time but you can fit one soil drench and a couple of foliage sprays. The soil drench will make the poison systemic causing bugs to die when they bite your plant, and will last you most of flower. Do a good flush and a good wash and none of this will mess with your end product.
This is the recipe I stick to with GH Nova and it has worked well from me, and yes it is pretty much just the Lucas formula with some super thrive thrown in there lol. With the sog your plants are still going to be babies when you put them into flower so start with 4 or 5 ml per gallon of nova with 1ml per gallon Super Thrive. They wont be babies long within a few weeks you should be able to ramp it up to 8ml per gallon and 1ml per gallon Super Thrive. If you have a meter you wont want to exceed 1300 ppm when at max strength, which will be no problem if you fallow this recipe. Of course you can go over this amount and tons of guys do but for your first grow lets make it easy and keep you from burning your plants.
Below are some pics of some plants that were grown in one of my set ups using that recipe. These guys where grown under a 550 real watt 2400 equiv watt CFL light, in a 2x4 area using that exact recipe. Off of two plants I ended up with just under a Qp of good flower with plenty of sugar leaves and popcorn buds to make hash and eatables with. These ladies were about 2.5 to 3ft at harvest.
Just my opinion lots of guys have lots of great recipes out there for you to choose from or hell make your own, this one is just so easy and works so well I though you may like it for a first grow.
Good luck man
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you could be pulling way more than 20 zips in that space. more like 30-40 if you changed your growing method. with just 4 weeks of veg. the extra 10+ ounces can buy you all the nutrients you wanted lol.
k_elliott99
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Elaborate please and thank you