new to leds need a replacement for 400w hps

blue pyro

blue pyro

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Hello all led growers. I'm currently in a transition of upgrading some of my equipment. So I figured I could use some more lighting. I need a led panel to replace a 400w hos/mh that primarily gets used to veg. Any good brand's in the 125 to 150 range I should look into?
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sunny747

sunny747

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While there's not much savings in electricity you could get two "300w" Viparspectra from Amazon.. The cheap purple LED's are great for VEG. Nice bushy plants. I say get two 300's rather than one 600w so that you can move things around a bit.. If I have my crappy 75 w Apollo LED in my veg tent along with CFL the plants all lean towards the purple LED.

I forget their total draw in power. It's around 135-150 watts per unit. They will run cooler than a 400w HID

The alternative is to buy 4 Cobs in the 4000k range, but now you're into the $400 range..
 
blue pyro

blue pyro

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Nice bushy plants are what im after. I have a 6.5x3.5x7 closet I like to fill out with just 2 maybe 3 plants topping out about 3.5 to 4 ft. But wide enough to fill in that 3.5. I start them vegging in a small cab a few weeks before the next harvest then finish vegging in the closet.
 
blue pyro

blue pyro

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CobKits said:
for an area that size you should really have 400-600W of led. was your 400 on a lightmover?
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sunny747 said:
What do you light your flower room with?

How large is your Veg space?
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The 400 is in my veg space which measures around 4' x 3' x 4.5'. I know it's small but it's the best I can do atm. I had a way larger Set up but things change lol.

The room that I finish out my veg and flower in is 6.5x3.5x7. And it is covered by 2 600w hps. This fall I'm adding either another 600w or leds in there also.
 
sunny747

sunny747

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blue pyro said:
The 400 is in my veg space which measures around 4' x 3' x 4.5'. I know it's small but it's the best I can do atm. I had a way larger Set up but things change lol.

The room that I finish out my veg and flower in is 6.5x3.5x7. And it is covered by 2 600w hps. This fall I'm adding either another 600w or leds in there also.
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You're talking to a guy who now grows in a 2x2 space :)

The Cobs are nice, but not sure they are worth the $ for veg.. I still like blurple for that.
 
blue pyro

blue pyro

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sunny747 said:
You're talking to a guy who now grows in a 2x2 space :)

The Cobs are nice, but not sure they are worth the $ for veg.. I still like blurple for that.
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Nice, that's a pretty small space what kind of yield you pull there. I have a small space just about 2x2 I thought about doing a small organic head stash run for Christmas this year. May let the leds have a go with that instead.
 
sunny747

sunny747

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mmm... I don't know my yield. Getting good genetics has been a problem as of late..

I recently downsized and am finally getting it all dialed in with the COB..I more or less just mess around with it. It's just a hobby. I live in Cali so weed has no real monetary value :) Last harvest was a lemon kush in a 1 gallon pot under 150w hps. 1.5 oz of decent bud.

Right now I have 4 unknown hybrids in flower and one that I planted to experiment with 12/12. Total of 200w of Cob that I run at around 160 watts. This strain doesn't look like a real big yielder. I was told that it is dosido fem seeds. At least they are all female which is a relief. I'm guessing that if I grew Big Bud or something I could get 3 ounces under a scrog.

Surprisingly the 12/12 from seed plant looks the best. It's 3 weeks from sprout. . It has nice stature, big fan leaves etc.. From now on I'll probably start all my seeds on 12/12 for 2-3 weeks then 16/8 if I want them larger. Lately I've had issues with seedlings just stretching too much and then they break when I "F" with them :) For a while there I had more tape than plant :)


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The last pic is the 12/12. I'm hoping to get a nice fat single cola. She will finish later than the others so she'll have the light mostly to herself. The others are about 30 days into flower. I just defoilated.
 
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horribleherk

horribleherk

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sunny747 said:
mmm... I don't know my yield. Getting good genetics has been a problem as of late..

I recently downsized and am finally getting it all dialed in with the COB..I more or less just mess around with it. It's just a hobby. I live in Cali so weed has no real monetary value :) Last harvest was a lemon kush in a 1 gallon pot under 150w hps. 1.5 oz of decent bud.

Right now I have 4 unknown hybrids in flower and one that I planted to experiment with 12/12. Total of 200w of Cob that I run at around 160 watts. This strain doesn't look like a real big yielder. I was told that it is dosido fem seeds. At least they are all female which is a relief. I'm guessing that if I grew Big Bud or something I could get 3 ounces under a scrog.

Surprisingly the 12/12 from seed plant looks the best. It's 3 weeks from sprout. . It has nice stature, big fan leaves etc.. From now on I'll probably start all my seeds on 12/12 for 2-3 weeks then 16/8 if I want them larger. Lately I've had issues with seedlings just stretching too much and then they break when I "F" with them :) For a while there I had more tape than plant :)


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The last pic is the 12/12. I'm hoping to get a nice fat single cola. She will finish later than the others so she'll have the light mostly to herself. The others are about 30 days into flower. I just defoilated.
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I was wondering what you've been up to lol
 
GrnMonStr

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sunny747 said:
While there's not much savings in electricity you could get two "300w" Viparspectra from Amazon.. The cheap purple LED's are great for VEG. Nice bushy plants. I say get two 300's rather than one 600w so that you can move things around a bit.. If I have my crappy 75 w Apollo LED in my veg tent along with CFL the plants all lean towards the purple LED.

I forget their total draw in power. It's around 135-150 watts per unit. They will run cooler than a 400w HID

The alternative is to buy 4 Cobs in the 4000k range, but now you're into the $400 range..
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Just recently the adds on Amazon was removed for that 300w vipar. Someone recently posted some pics of one with a semi melted reflector that surrounds all those little led's and a few days later that entire model and all posts were removed and it had like over 400 reviews. I do still see it for sale though on their web site and on ebay. Can anyone find this now on Amazon?
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