New to growing, how are my plants doing?

LOKY49er

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Hey all, new to growing. I started indoors. I was given 5 seeds, germinated them, they all rooted. Planted two in one Dixie cup, and the other three in another. After about 2 weeks one of them started getting the first two leaves all yellow and curly, the same happened to another girl a few days later. They started to lean, I didn't know at the time that it could be easy to revive them, so I just pulled 'em out. Now I have only three left. Here are some pictures. Please give me any tips on how to keep them from doing the same thing. Are the cotyledons supposed to shrivel up like they are?Thank you!!
 

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Stonefish

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Hey all, new to growing. I started indoors. I was given 5 seeds, germinated them, they all rooted. Planted two in one Dixie cup, and the other three in another. After about 2 weeks one of them started getting the first two leaves all yellow and curly, the same happened to another girl a few days later. They started to lean, I didn't know at the time that it could be easy to revive them, so I just pulled 'em out. Now I have only three left. Here are some pictures. Please give me any tips on how to keep them from doing the same thing. Are the cotyledons supposed to shrivel up like they are?Thank you!!
You should only have one plant per container - otherwise, they will compete for root space, and the others will die. You also obviously need more light, as the seedlings are leggy, and that is a sure sign of not enough light OR the light source is not close enough to the plants. Yes, the cotyledon leaves will wither and die (as they should) after a few weeks.

Personally, what I would do would be to transplant them NOW before the root systems get too developed. When you transplant, you can place the plant deeper in the earth than they are now - soil just below the cotyledon area of the stem...that will help with some of the stretching - then get some decent light over your girls! T5s are great for veg, and not horribly expensive. Once you get ready for flower, though - if you really want any yield off of these plants, you will probably want to buy a MH or HPS light. 600w at the very minimum for 4-6 plants (depending on how big you want your plants to get, IE veg time). Of course - once you up the wattage, THEN you have to be sure to keep your plants cool via exhaust fans and regular fans (air blowing on your plants strengthens the stems, and the exhaust fans remove the heat that bigger wattage lights generate away from your girls). You could also look into LED lighting, but I'm not fully convinced in their ability to grow dense nugs at this point - that is only my opinion, as some seem to be having "OK" success with LEDs. One major plus of LEDs though, is that they don't radiate heat like the HPSs and MHs.
If all this "lighting and fan" talk makes your head spin, then it's likely you are destined to be an "outdoor grower". Not a bad thing at all, but you are at the mercy of the elements, and can't grow year-round.

If you don't already have a PH meter, you'll need one of those too. Your water (for soil grows) will be best suited for around 6.5 PH. When you start to give your plants nutes, *always* add nutes before measuring the PH, as nutes will generally drop the PH level. If the PH is still too high after mixing the nutes into the water, then "PH down" (inexpensive PH reducer) can be added to the water. If you don't live in an area with really high PH water (like I do), then you might need to add "PH up" to get the correct level.

I don't know how serious you are about growing, but if you want *real* results, then you'll have to get somewhat serious about your equipment, and furthering your knowledge about growing in general. If you don't enjoy a lot of reading, there are quite a few "how to" DVDs on growing. YouTube is full of growing hints as well.

Best of luck - it's a super rewarding hobby! Nothing like sitting back and enjoying a bowl of your OWN homegrown:weed:
 

LOKY49er

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Thank you a lot Stonefish, great help! I am not too serious about it, because my set up has to be extremely stealth-like, and I have to move everything around constantly throughout the day. After they either get to big or start stinking, I may have to move them outside, right now they would die because of the cold, but by the time they become bigger and strong enough, I am sure it will be okay. I do have lights on the girls I don't know why I didn't take the photos with them on. Like I said I am not home enough to give them the proper sunlight, so when I'm away from my girls I have to conceal them in a spot where there is hardly any light at all, I am going to clear out my closet though on Monday and try to set it up in there. I will put up more pictures next week. Thanks again yo!
 

LOKY49er

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Question time!! Is it okay to transplant and put soil above the cotyledons to stop from lengthy growth?
 

cuervoman13

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Yeah man, the rest of the plants are looking good. But stonefish is right, you need to seperate them and get them some better, or closer lighting. I had my cfls way to high to begin with and now they are adjusted down to about 4 inches off the plants. Good luck bro!
 
Hey all, new to growing. I started indoors. I was given 5 seeds, germinated them, they all rooted. Planted two in one Dixie cup, and the other three in another. After about 2 weeks one of them started getting the first two leaves all yellow and curly, the same happened to another girl a few days later. They started to lean, I didn't know at the time that it could be easy to revive them, so I just pulled 'em out. Now I have only three left. Here are some pictures. Please give me any tips on how to keep them from doing the same thing. Are the cotyledons supposed to shrivel up like they are?Thank you!!
it could b the lights r to close as well
 

LOKY49er

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I don't even know science guy. LOL I mostly just use the sun light from my window. So does anyone know if it's okay to put soil above the cotyledons?
 

connorbrown

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Sunlight from a window? How are these things even growing.
Personally, I think that you should just start over because there is a great chance those plants will be hermie.
Go get some CFL's at wal-mart for like 10 bucks for a three pack. That should be enough for now.
 

LOKY49er

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yeah man, plants can grow outside fine. The one I have left is turning colors now, any idea why? Nutrients burn maybe? I don't have anything to measure the PH levels, so it makes it real hard...
 

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LOKY49er

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Okay this is her now at 5ive weeks.
Any ideas on how to get her to grow faster but not too big? LOL I gotta stay incognito!
 

zamil

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Okay this is her now at 5ive weeks.
Any ideas on how to get her to grow faster but not too big? LOL I gotta stay incognito!
I'm not sure if you have heard of it, but there is this organism, group of organisms, together marketed as fungi perfecti. They server as a fertilizer, root stabilizer, and overall plant health sentinel for the underground.

Just go to this website:

http://www.fungi.com/mycogrow/index.html

One ounce HMSO1O $5.95 is what you want, the myco-grow soluble.

It's cheap and easy to make the solution up. 1/2 teaspoon of the Myco-Grow organisms into a 1 quart container of water, close lid, and mix until well mixed. Once well mixed set aside.

Get your potting soil mixture, and use spoonfuls of the Myco-Grow solution to moisten and stir around the soil/potting mixture you plan to use for your transplant. Do not use so much that the soil turns into a soggy mess. Use about 1 tea spoonful per 1/2 cup of soil necessary to fill the pot you'll be using. You'll need to ever so gently take your plant out of that container, and put aside for a second; it will be going in a pot 2-3 times the volume it's in now, and make sure the new pot has drainage in the bottom.

Assuming that the roots of your plant have nearly reached the bottom of your container, fill your new pot leaving a dug out in the pot within this moistened soil mixture you've just made in the pot as deep and as wide as it was in it's prior container. Set the pot aside, and there should be little more soil mixture left over for filling in the transplant in a little while.

I'm a newbie, and this is my advice, take it for what it is. This is what I would be doing/did. It would be best if you can wear gloves while doing this, like latex lab type gloves. Once you have your plant out of the container, you'll need to gently take soil from the outside until you start to see the roots, but keep the roots wet once they begin to be exposed.

Work semi-quickly and keep some water near in a spray bottle on super fine mist. Once you see the roots in one area, you are done pulling dirt from that part, more to another section to the left or right. But, very gently, crumbling, and pinching the dirt away you do not want to hurt the roots, just expose them. As you expose more and more root-ball eventually all the way around, and on the bottom, you'll have exposed the entire root-ball. Remember, keep the roots wet!!!!

You'll need something about a slim as a coffee stir stick. Gently, poke 5-10 holes evenly spaced out at the top face of your plant's soil, if you feel resistance stop, otherwise, go in about 1.5-2 inches. This will be so that the Myco-grow can get a chance to reach the inside roots as well as the outside roots. Now for the dip.

The Myco-grow should be in a container that is somewhat taller than the root-ball. Dip the root-ball into the Myco-grow solution all the way to the top face and let it cover the surface face and go down into those holes you just made. Give it about 5 seconds, and then pull it out, and place it in the dug-out in the pot you have set aside. If the root-ball is too big, then just pour the myco-grow all around and on top of the root-ball.

Using the soil mixture that you have also set aside, begin to fill in the dug-out until the soil, and the plant are one, level, and steady. You should barely be able to tell where the transplant began and the soil from the pot was filled in. Now, for the final step, the transplant drink.

Your pot is about to have to drain water so know that. Give your pot a good watering all the way around. Getting all of the soil around the pot. Let the pot completely drain. You are done.

From here, you will not need to fertilize anymore, or you shouldn't have to, just water. Figuring out the right watering schedule for a new container can be frustrating, but once you do, that's it, smooth sailing. To water, you do the same thing every time, full water of the top soil, and then let the excess water drain out the bottom fully, do not just let it sit in the drainage water.

Don't water too much-I think stem and leaves will start to turn yellowish instead of nice green, and don't water too little-stems and leaves will droops and begin to fall over. It is easier to bring a plant back from underwatering than it is from overwatering, so err on the side of waiting to water. But, as soon as you even think you see a leaf or steam loosing it's rigidity, then water!

Good Luck! :)
 

Danthebull

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yeah what zamil said!!!!!

Here is my advise, its not much but it is how i work.. You need to speculate ( get decent equipment and nutrition's ) to acumilate ( get the plants working well for you, so you get a good strain with big buds ) Simple.... spend money to make money/smoke

GL tho....
 
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