New outdoor question. +rep for good advice

Hey guys, got just under 30 seedlings going, ready to move outside pretty soon here. I have 2 areas picked out to put them, but was wondering how much soil am I going to need here? How deep do i need to dig and fill with a higher quality soil mixture for each plant? I am thinking of just doing it as a plot and digging out a big square (seems the most logical =P) in that situation how far apart do I plant them? Thanks for any help.

I would veg them inside till they are 18-24 inches tall. Smaller plants tend to get trampled on or eaten by bugs. They are also a lot less stable in their new environment and more prone to shock problems from the transplant and environment. If they are around that height or smaller then I would dig out a space around 2cu.ft. per plant and mix 60% your soil with 40% of the soil that is there. Then plant them. I'd give each one at least 4' of clearance on all sides. Not really sure how big you plan on going thought so that is optional.

No more than 18 inches deep and up to 24 wide should get you by just fine. For soil I am sure someone else will chime in.

it will cost more but get some rose buckets...each one will take about 3 bags of soil......happy frog soil is good also...roots organic 707 mix is also good just a little hot,also veg them indoor till about 1' tall before u throw outside........happy growing

Thanks for the replies, I'll be using a mix of FFOF and Happy Frog soil...Now my only issue is trying to pick a spot to do it..I wanna be stealthy, but I dont have a ton of worries about them being seen by anyone so I can be a little more lenient in that regard..The front is an open field and it comes back and theres a barn on the south side of the property and the house is north of that about 50 yards..considering the sun rising E to W..should I plant in the woods inbetween the two? or will it get enough sun in other areas? A guy i know has a bunch of huge plants in some thick trees and the area im talking about is not extremely filled in with foliage, but there are quite a few trees. i know it's hard to visualize on here..I could take some pictures I suppose if someone was interested, but any advice is helpful and much appreciated. I want to pick the best area, but i am having a hard time deciding which will be best and I really don't want them too spread apart. Anyways let me know what you guys think.

Honestly for digging go wider than you want to go deep, Roots prefer growing horizontally rather than vertically.
18-24" depth is good while for go sideways the skys the limit.

Honestly you are less likely to get spotted if u spread them out. This is my first outdoor season but I think more than four in the small area gets pretty easy to spot

powerslide said:

Honestly you are less likely to get spotted if u spread them out. This is my first outdoor season but I think more than four in the small area gets pretty easy to spot

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this is good advice. i would only do 4-5 per patch unless you live on like 100+ acres of your own property very far away from anything.

Far as chosing a spot that gets sun light you have to consider a few things. i take it your in the northern hem. if so then the sun not only rises from the e to w, but is also coming from the south. so your going to want to find place the recieve 5+ hours of direct sunlight. Which it sounds like that wont be a problem for you, but when planting in and near vegitation your going to want to make sure you plant on the south side of it. I wouldn't recommend putting all your eggs in one basket. something my mom always told me. I figure the more the marrier. Just don't break off more then you can chew and over do it. Or the crop will pay for it. With 30 seedlings if all are fem. seeds i would say possibly 5 to 6 gardens. 6' x 6' and no more then 2 ft deep so do. When it come to your soil theirs two things to do: bring in new dirt and mix it in or take whats there and juice it up with soil amendments up to you. Also I would spead my gardens out as far as possible. So if somebody finds one they just dont stumble upon the rest.

I am a First Time Guerilla Grower, but a seasoned kitty kat. So take it for what its worth but its how im doing mine grow this year.

First of all, all plants do not root wide. Indicas root wide, Sativas have a de3p taproot. Second of all, the sun does not go from east to west, It goes from slightly north east to slightly south west. Third of all, the more expensive soil is not the best. Find a farm in your area (preferably horse) and ask about their compost. They will most likely give it to you for free so fill some pillow cases or sacks from a feed mill ($2) or the back of a pickup truck or whatever. Depending on how hot the compost is you will decide on which npk ratio to feed. If its pretty fresh, use a low nitrogen feed (miracle grow) like tomato 18-18-21. If its pretty black, use all purpose miracle grow with something like a 24-8-16 npk ratio. I would recomend at least a five gallon hole to see the plants full potential. If you can't find an inconspicuous location where they can get full sun, try to find spots where they get morning sun as plants respond better to morning than evening sun. Halfway up the northeast side of a hill is perfect. One big thing to keep in mind when searching for a location is water. Water is heavy so try to find a spot neer a pond, stream or lake. Just hide your rinsed milk jugs in the weeds and mix your MG on site. 1 gal a plant once a week, unless itrains. Plants use mainly nitrogen to veg but they use mainly potassium to bud . When you see your first hairs, lay off the mirracle grow and start flushing with organic potassium. I use dried bannana peels, 2 table spoons of molasses and as much black tea as youwant. You really cant overdo iton the K but watch the molasses, more than two tablespoons and you got bud rot (from the sugar). If you really wanna turbo boost your plants then hit up Fungiperfecti.com and order some solluble mychorrizae and water it in. Thats how I do it anyways and my plants always turn out perfect. Dont worry abou bat guano and bone meal and shit either. Waste of money, its all micro nutrients that the plant barely needs and its already in the soil.

I also agree with spreading them out. I saythe same thing, don't put all your eggs in one basket. I wouldn't worry so much about the choppers as i would about untrustwotrthy friends and hunters. You might want to show off a little and bring a friend or two out to see your awesome plants but then your gonna worry about them comming back later and ripping some. Then the next year, you'll have to find all new spots since their nolonger a secret. If you really feel the need to show off then take a picture. Another thing I find with outdoor growing is to wait till april 15th to start your seeds. They'll take off faster and keep going if the weather is nice. It really doesnt pay to start them early unless your talkin two or three feet tall. It stunts them by at least a week when you put them outside as they harden off.

instead of holes, you could use growbags...much easier than digging, and you get the advantage of air pruning (if it's not made of plastic, that is). For next year's guerilla grow I made a huge growbag out of landscaping fabric, and filled it with vegetation from around the grow site. It will decompose over winter, and should turn into good quality organic soil by next year's planting time. It's easier than digging holes and dragging loads of soil...and cheaper too. only problem is that it's a little less stealthy, since the container is above ground, but you could just get some cheap camouflage netting to hide it... then it will just look like some small bush until you get up close.

farmerjoe420 said:

this is good advice. i would only do 4-5 per patch unless you live on like 100+ acres of your own property very far away from anything.

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That would be me

This year was a big success for my growing adventures and the main reason was a carefully prepared growing area requiring little soil amendment. I mulch the ground year round with alfalfa hay. I literally moved some of my plants from 4-5" containers into their space with no soil amendment (those for whom I could not determine sex) and they grew as high as 9-13 feet (all but one were LST'd and still...).

My plants havce suffered in some years past struggling with excessive Spring rains. This year, I kept them in containers until they were about a foot tall so I could better protect them from weather and critters while they were getting started. My grow area also has a 4-foot fence to protect them when they are put in the ground.

Amend your soil this year if the ground is not prepared, but if you can work the same spots and keep the soil mulched, you can develop a phenomenal environment for your growing pleasure in the years ahead