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I get ideas but I do some looking around and leds just dont cut it as stand alone lighting so until I see some kind of real grow come from them I wont be spendinga ton of money on inadaqute lights and waste my time on them as Im too busy to try to use things I have seen njot show any reall promise at this point...Green just spend $8-10 at wal mart and get a 4 foot shop light.They work great for clones and keeping mothers and are very inexspensive.I ahve a ton of pics posted showing these in action.Just leave them on 24 hours aday

Hi again,

I reguards to colors used there is data out there. I attached some charts I found. Maybe this will help you.

Hey Dave,

Use 6500k T5 for flouros and 25% Blue 430 to 450mn and 75% red 640 to 660nm for LEDs.

Keep the wattage even, like for a cabinet use 24w each T5 and 24w of leds.

Thats just my opinion but so far its workin great.

I have a stealth box. 18"x18"x4' with : 1 LED grow panel (12"sq) on each side with 2 on the back side. on top I have 4 par 38 floods (all blue for veg/all red for bloom) with a single 100wt full spectrum cfl shining down. My 2' plant is beautiful and is showing heavy flowering at 2.5 weeks 12/12. I expect over an oz easy. This was a mother plant that did so well under the blue that I threw her to 12/12 ands switched to all red at 1.5 weeks. had minimal stretch. Am so impressed that I am ordering a bulb for every plant I have in a dwc scrog grow. Don't let the ebay prices scare you. I got them cheap as hell from china. THEY WORK!!!!

serrated said:

That is my point, who set the rules and made it fact that those are the only 2 colors needed?

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God. Check out the principals of photosyntheses.

MstrWilliam said:

I have a stealth box. 18"x18"x4' with : 1 LED grow panel (12"sq) on each side with 2 on the back side. on top I have 4 par 38 floods (all blue for veg/all red for bloom) with a single 100wt full spectrum cfl shining down. My 2' plant is beautiful and is showing heavy flowering at 2.5 weeks 12/12. I expect over an oz easy. This was a mother plant that did so well under the blue that I threw her to 12/12 ands switched to all red at 1.5 weeks. had minimal stretch. Am so impressed that I am ordering a bulb for every plant I have in a dwc scrog grow. Don't let the ebay prices scare you. I got them cheap as hell from china. THEY WORK!!!!

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BSIv2.0 said:

The one I saw

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i jus watched the video on youtube and it makes LEDs look considerably shitter than HID, the HID grown plant yielded nearly three times more which i think is a lot

mh/hps for me. the yeild is larger and the grow cycle is shorter... although the electric bill of the led is way less...

serrated said:

why not so good for growing? I bet this could out veg a cfl??

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What you have is whats called a RGB LED light, for growing they are pretty useless my friend, what you want is CREE XLAMP Red, Blue or even add a few 6500k Q or similar bin Emitters

I made two CREE Xlamp red and blue fixtures similar to the Procyon100, but his is much better than mine, in fact, the Procyon100 is the best LED grow light on the market hands down, but mine is pretty decent and didn't cost me $599, although I did spend $200+ on just red and blue Xlamp emitters and countless hours soldering and wiring, I'll be using these high output emitters with my other lighting. I've had very good results with the CREE XLAMP fixtures I've made.

You can quote me on this: LED's will be the future of indoor horticulture in the next couple years or less. Right now we're just on the cusp of LED's and horticulture, but being an early adopter of these lights have me convinced they will be the future. Metal halides and HPS have been around for many many years, you don't see much in terms of groundbreaking new MH and HPS lighting improvements, We've seen split combo mh and hps in the same tube, digital ballasts, and h20 water jackets. Not much else...... In the LED world, we're seeing Murphys law almost in full effect, the CREE XLAMPS have improved by roughly 70% in one fiscal year, LED's are just warming up, they'll be cheaper and more efficient in no time at all.

serrated said:

Fletch...I agree most of those on youtube suck, and I was not trying to offend, I was simply stating that people judge too quickly. You do know how to grow, I was not saying that you did not. but a multiple specturm LED that you can change may make a differance to growing, who the hell knows the plants may love green LEDs, but noone is going to spend $400 to test differant colors, so for 32 I am going to try it and see how it goes, I will let you guys know.
I'll veg some Jock Horror and post some pics.

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Plants reflect green, thus their green appearance... so "who the hell knows" I do, they reflect it thus doing nothing for them.

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Plants reflect green, thus their green appearance... so "who the hell knows" I do, they reflect it thus doing nothing for them.

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There are some that believe that a little green is beneficial, it has to do with secondary pigmentation regarding 530nm or something along those lines. Personaly I don't belong to that camp, and use a 530nm Green Inova X1 as a night light if I must go in the growroom in the night cycle.

The reason I 'm skeptical is that I've never prolonged a plants cycle by interfering with the plant transisioning from veg to flowering from using a 530nm green nightlight. I could be wrong, but this is why some LED growlights add a one or two green leds in their fixture.

I didn't read all the replies in this thread, but saw the Prostar emitters being discussed. Let me be the first to mention, the Prostar red and blue emitters are NOWHERE in the same league as CREE XLAMP emitters. I have plenty of Prostar emitters that I've tested and they are not as good as what the spec sheets state in my observations and testing. I've tested almost every emitter on the market and thus far the CREE offerings are the best on the market, thats why Procyon and others use CREE Xlamp emitters, even thought the Prostars cost less per emitter.

Here's my 530nm night light if I have an emergency and must enter the growroom while the plants are sleeping.

It's bright enough, not nearly as bright as the Q5 emitter it's light is shining on though, then again, the Q5 bin isn't a grow light blue or red emitter. The Q5 is great for flashlights, but not so much as a grow light emitter, but it could be used since if memory serves, its 6200k

PS, You can buy a Inova green X1 530nm for $7.99 at Beachaudio.com