Hey everyone I've been visiting and reading on this site for a while but I finally need some help I've got two ladies on the go outdoors in pots they're now 37 days old and they are both autos one amnesia and one critical mass. The critical looks as though it might have a pest and note issue and the amnesia has started to grow weird I've attached some pictures to hopefully help some one figure out what's going wrong and how I can go about sorting it. These are growing in gro sure compost and they've been getting notes every other two days which is gro sure multipurpose feed which is a 5:3:8 ratio they've been getting this at full directed strength. Any help will be truly appreciated. 1St pic is the critical and the 2nd is the amnesia
New here needing some advice please people
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What’s the ppm and ph when you feed and how often? You said you use the manufacturer recommended level. My plants would die if I fed them that much. I’ve always found the ppm way higher if I put in everything they want me to. You may want to consider special nutrients designed for blooming.
Roger A. Shrubber
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looks like thrip damage, not really a lot to do once you're in flower. you can try dusting with DE (diatomaceous earth) which should help, but probably won't eliminate them.it's not a good idea to use pesticides in flower, a lot of them have a systemic effect, where they penetrate the plant, so it'll get to your buds. you can try water with a few drops of rosemary oil and a drop or two of dish soap, just be careful where you're spraying it, or your buds will taste like rosemary and dawn. fortunately, thrips don't get into buds like mites do, so a careful treatment of your leaves should help a lot.
the other plant just looks like it's not digging the heat, leaf taco is usually a sign of heat or low rh stress. just make sure it's getting enough water and it should be ok. maybe shade them during the hottest part of the day, they'll still be getting plenty of light.
you probably are overfeeding a little, try cutting back about 20% on the nutes. and make sure you're letting your pots dry out between waterings, unless you're using coco. the one looks like its having slight P issues, which are usually caused by your root zone staying too wet
the other plant just looks like it's not digging the heat, leaf taco is usually a sign of heat or low rh stress. just make sure it's getting enough water and it should be ok. maybe shade them during the hottest part of the day, they'll still be getting plenty of light.
you probably are overfeeding a little, try cutting back about 20% on the nutes. and make sure you're letting your pots dry out between waterings, unless you're using coco. the one looks like its having slight P issues, which are usually caused by your root zone staying too wet
Roger A. Shrubber
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right click on the picture and pick view image, they blow up quite a bit.
Thanks people for the replies made a few changes for the next feed due tomorrow I've only put a 1/4 of the advised nutes in and I've added 1 ml of pk13/14 and I'll see how they like it also today I've kept them in shaded areas instead of in direct sunlight and they're both standing taller and prouder today. Am I too far into to flower for using some neem oil I've spotted a few green and black aphids today and as you can see from the pics I posted I think one has a pest issue anyway.
I've never heard of that product. Do you know what's in it ? Did your friend get good results from it ?
Roger A. Shrubber
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never heard of it either, what's in it?
Roger A. Shrubber
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sodium laureth sulfate is a wetting agent, fairly safe.
that seems like a pretty safe product, but i'm not sure how it's supposed to work, those are all pretty benign ingredients, not known for their ability to kill mites.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Canna-Cure-750ml-1L-5L-Spider-Mite-Killer-Pest-Control-Foliar-Spray-/122428457198
scroll down and it says it makes a "sticky barrier"...that pests get stuck to....if you have a bad problem in flower, i guess i'd try it, but i'd still try to get as little as possible on my buds. because if pests get stuck to it, so will dust, hair, dust mites........
that seems like a pretty safe product, but i'm not sure how it's supposed to work, those are all pretty benign ingredients, not known for their ability to kill mites.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Canna-Cure-750ml-1L-5L-Spider-Mite-Killer-Pest-Control-Foliar-Spray-/122428457198
scroll down and it says it makes a "sticky barrier"...that pests get stuck to....if you have a bad problem in flower, i guess i'd try it, but i'd still try to get as little as possible on my buds. because if pests get stuck to it, so will dust, hair, dust mites........
Beachwalker
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re: first picture search: Leafhoppers
Thanks again people I've got some predator mites and nematodes on order that should be with me Friday. Looking at the ladies today and the critical pic 1 below seems to have exploded with leaf and bud growth but the amnesia picture 2 is just getting more weird with the way it's growing I've spotted a light coloured line around the edges of new growth which also seem to be a perculiar shape aswell I've looked at loads of info and pics on here for various issues but I'm still a little unsure and not confident in diagnosing what's going on so again all info and input is very much appreciated. You guys are awesome by the way.
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Hey everyone thought I'd post an update and let you see how things are doing with my ladies after making changes first pic is the Amnesia she's doing great the second pic is the critical which I'd had the more trouble withe she's produced shit loads of leaf even whilst flowering due to her issues. Well only just over three weeks to go and I hope they fatten up nicely. I'll post a pic before check chop down thanks for everyone who gave some input here again you guys rock
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Roger A. Shrubber
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those look like calyxes to me
