New grower needs help ASAP

Hey everyone im having a problem. Im currently in the 2nd week of flower and im having some nitrogen problems I think. My leaves are curling down. Right now I didn't add any of my grow nutes just the bloom. The ratio is 1-5-4. I stopped giving her the nitrogen packed Veg nutes but still with the curling. I was told to flush my plant and just feed it Ph balanced water with no nutes. Would that be safe right now at this stage of Flowering? Im due for a rez change in the morning. My lights are off right now or I would post a picture but if someone could just let me know if its ok to stop feeding it let me know please
 

a senile fungus

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What kind of setup? Medium? pH? Feed schedule? Lights? More info always helps...

You can snap a quick pic with flash or a cfl or whatever. A minute of light won't kill them.

If you're having nitrogen def then switching to ph'ed water will only exacerbate the issue. N is a mobile element and not having it will only get worse.

Sounds like maybe you switched to bloom nutes too fast and should've stayed with the higher N veg nutes at least till stretch is over.

I know a lot of people just mix the veg and bloom nutes for a good balance.

What are the NPK values of your food?

When i ran hydro I basically tried to stay as close to 1-1-1, but did fluctuate here and there depending on cycle.

I'm not currently running hydro, so take my advice with a grain of salt.

I hope someone else will chime in too...
 
heres the run down of my set up

5 gallon dwc hydro
2 200 watt cfls
floraduo A&B
A is 5-0-6
B is 1-5-4
the plant is sitting in a rapid rootersick.jpg sick2.jpg
 
Ph is 5.7 RH is 45-50% I do a rez change every 7 days the ppm was at 700 but I brought it down to 500 now the room temp is around 75 degrees sometimes warmer
sick3.jpg
 

unwine99

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Whoa anon , what's up man? What happened. Almost looks like it went dry or something and why did you raise the ppm to 700 brother? What do the roots look like? Is that light that I see on the side one of the 2, 200 watt cfl's that u were talking about?
 
ya that's one of the lights. And im not sure what happened it was doing good for awhile now this happened but there still a lot of flower sites so I thought it was ok. The roots are looking good there not discolored or slimy or anything.
 

unwine99

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Anyway man, if you haven't let the res go dry and you're still using the low nitrogen flowering nutes only, and if you have plenty of oxygen going to the roots and if your meters are calibrated and your ppm's are low around 500, and your ph is good and your roots still look nice and healthy and white and your res temps are good (under 70 is ideal but low 70's is ok) and your humidity is good -- It has to be those lights. I'm not familiar growing with cfls but If you want any chance of saving that thing, you need some better light or you need to plant that bitch in some coco (I've done it several times) and veg it out again for a little while because the uptake of nutrients and your lighting are not jiving together. One things for certain, your're not going to get bud w/ the Mrs. looking like that. Do you have a fan or something blowing some fresh air in there?
 
ya I got a fan in there blowing some fresh air around her im on ebay now about to order a hps bulb will It screw into a regular light bulb socket or will I need to buy an adapter?
 

bripay50

Active Member
Anyway man, if you haven't let the res go dry and you're still using the low nitrogen flowering nutes only, and if you have plenty of oxygen going to the roots and if your meters are calibrated and your ppm's are low around 500, and your ph is good and your roots still look nice and healthy and white and your res temps are good (under 70 is ideal but low 70's is ok) and your humidity is good -- It has to be those lights. I'm not familiar growing with cfls but If you want any chance of saving that thing, you need some better light or you need to plant that bitch in some coco (I've done it several times) and veg it out again for a little while because the uptake of nutrients and your lighting are not jiving together. One things for certain, your're not going to get bud w/ the Mrs. looking like that. Do you have a fan or something blowing some fresh air in there?

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bripay50

Active Member
Whoa anon , what's up man? What happened. Almost looks like it went dry or something and why did you raise the ppm to 700 brother? What do the roots look like? Is that light that I see on the side one of the 2, 200 watt cfl's that u were talking about?

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BAMS

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Just from the details given and the photos, seems a bit on the over feeding side. Did you do a veg to bloom nutrient transition?
 

BAMS

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If you get the problem sorted you will get some bud off of it, but probably not its full potential

600w is best bang for the buck, but 400w don't hurt at all.
 

unwine99

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If I get the Hps bulb and ballast will this plant still be able to produce buds or will I have to start over??
She looks pretty haggard man. IMO If you want to bud her and get something out of her, I would get the hps -- throw her under an 18/6 veg cycle until she starts showing new bright green vegetative growth again -- I would top her at that point if you have height restrictions, probably half way down the meristem -- then I would wait another week or so, take a clone if you want and try the flowering thing again. That's the best chance I would give it -- if you were 2 get the hps now, I'm not sure how she would recover -- they don't have alot of those "recovery" hormones in flowering like they do in veg. especially at what, day 20 something now?
 
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