New grow room - criticize at your best!

PhishPhood16

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Then where are you going to get the power supply for your portable A.C. if your pops watches the electric bill?
 

BustedParaphernalia

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Then where are you going to get the power supply for your portable A.C. if your pops watches the electric bill?
I decided against buying an AC unit anyway. But I didn't say he "watches" the power bill (though I'm sure someone looks at it before its paid; but that's not what I meant), I just meant that he usually doesn't turn on the AC because he prefers to save energy.

a 4" inline extractor fan will sort most of your problems out!
Yep, just ordered a new hood (the HTG Supply EasyCool6) and some 6" tubing and a 6" inline fan with 250CFM. HTG Supply has good stuff on the cheap! Love that store.
 

pvddread

Active Member
how about switching back to cfl for another 6 weeks it would be a lot cheaper on electricity and maybe cooler then. just a hazey thought
 

legallyflying

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I know your on a budget but just as an FYI. The stuff HTG sells is complete fucking garbage.

Not all hoods are created equal. But whatever, you bought the stuff and are working towards a solution. If my room ever hit 100 I would shit my pants. That high of temps can really cause some havoc later in flower. But that is what redundant temp sensors, fans, and alarms are for.

Cheers
 

legallyflying

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Hey thought I would post this since we are on the subject of fans.

I have tried just about all of them. Cap, HTG,sunleaves, can fan, you name it. The BEST fan I have was also the cheapest. Got it off of eBay. They are made in the USA by a company that has been making Hvac parts for like 80 years or some shit. Quality bearings, steel fins, and massive power. So pissed I bought that max fan :(. What a fucking waste

Anyways, the fans are made by tjeirelund or something like that. Here is a link: http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=270819448022&index=1&nav=SEARCH&nid=06835245789

They don't have fancy paint jobs or neat boxes with all kind of stupid fucking pictures on them. But what you do get is a fan that kicks ass for $100

I'll telling you, there fucking dope!
 

NWMED

Active Member
That's what I had to tell myself so I could fall asleep last night lol. But yeah this whole process has been a huge learning experience. I'd probably have killed about 50 more plants than I did if rollitup didn't exist... gotta thank all you guys for being awesome.



Haha I already repped you up last night. Thanks for the step by step though, it's really appreciated. I don't have a car so I'll see if I can get that shit online somehow. The "little mini turbine blower fan" is a centrifugal fan, if I'm not mistaken, correct? I think those things get pretty expensive. I can probably figure out the hole drilling, glass buying, mounting, and ducting (maybe), but idk if I can afford a centrifugal fan... inline fans are pretty expensive too.
A bathroom fan from homedepot is around $20 and with half a brain can be rigged as inline.
 

BustedParaphernalia

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hope your pops doesn't notice the electric bill going up like $50 a month though haha.
Turns out he did... haha

I know your on a budget but just as an FYI. The stuff HTG sells is complete fucking garbage.

Not all hoods are created equal. But whatever, you bought the stuff and are working towards a solution. If my room ever hit 100 I would shit my pants. That high of temps can really cause some havoc later in flower. But that is what redundant temp sensors, fans, and alarms are for.

Cheers
Haven't had a single problem with anything HTG (except the worthless reflector, but that was made to be cheap).

Hey thought I would post this since we are on the subject of fans.

I have tried just about all of them. Cap, HTG,sunleaves, can fan, you name it. The BEST fan I have was also the cheapest. Got it off of eBay. They are made in the USA by a company that has been making Hvac parts for like 80 years or some shit. Quality bearings, steel fins, and massive power. So pissed I bought that max fan :(. What a fucking waste

Anyways, the fans are made by tjeirelund or something like that. Here is a link: http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=270819448022&index=1&nav=SEARCH&nid=06835245789

They don't have fancy paint jobs or neat boxes with all kind of stupid fucking pictures on them. But what you do get is a fan that kicks ass for $100

I'll telling you, there fucking dope!
Thanks, I've been looking for one of these for around that price. I'll pick one up when I start growing again :D
 

bubbabear

Member
OK since you asked - I am enamored with vertical growing. I would arrange all of the plants, and a few more around the outside edges of the space and hang the light inside a cool tube vertically, right in the middle. You are wrong (IMO) on your temperatures. 90 degrees will result in stretchy, weak plants and basically, crummy buds. You will make the plants susceptible to whatever happens by, and its often tiny things you can't see. They love the heat, your plants don't. This problem could be a simple fix, or extrememly difficult depending on your living arrangements. First, even if you stay with that reflector, air cool it with a fan. Draw cool air from somewherethru the fixture and out to another part of the room/house/whereever, just lower the temps to 85 or below at least, with 78 being ideal. that space is small enough to put a screen around on the wall. Attach it to the wall about 4-6" above the top of your pots, and as they grow weave the plants into those screens. If its a 400 watt light dont make it higher that 2-1/2 - 3 '. If a 400watt light will grow a 2-1/2 square, then you have room for about 3 of those along the wall. Just bend the screen in somehow so that it will form a rough circle about the lamp. Using a cool tube will allow those plants plenty of room to grow buds inward towards your lamp. For the next phase, you will add one shelf around the walls to hold the next level of plants to grow up into the next 2 1/2' of screen. Then you'll stack another 400w lamp w/ cool tube on top of that. Of course, you will have to solve the teperature issue first. You will get much better yield for your money if you listen to those guys about cooling. You have several options depending on who else lives with you and stuff. Look at chillers, mini-split ac's, window units, or just good fans. If it doesnt get to hot where you live you could draw air from outside thru a duct across your bulbs, thru a scrubber and then back outside. You can remove 80% of the heat way if its ool outside. Hope this helps - good job yours is very clean and cool looking
 

bubbabear

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hes right - i live in deep south and this is a big isue down here - the poor mans solution is a strong fan and ducting to pull air from outside house and then exhaust it back outside. lol i just read it was your dads house. heheh - well i guess you can explain that the money he spends on electricity will be saved by you buying pot, but to get that savings he's got to come around on the AC
 

BustedParaphernalia

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OK since you asked - I am enamored with vertical growing. I would arrange all of the plants, and a few more around the outside edges of the space and hang the light inside a cool tube vertically, right in the middle. You are wrong (IMO) on your temperatures. 90 degrees will result in stretchy, weak plants and basically, crummy buds. You will make the plants susceptible to whatever happens by, and its often tiny things you can't see. They love the heat, your plants don't. This problem could be a simple fix, or extrememly difficult depending on your living arrangements. First, even if you stay with that reflector, air cool it with a fan. Draw cool air from somewherethru the fixture and out to another part of the room/house/whereever, just lower the temps to 85 or below at least, with 78 being ideal. that space is small enough to put a screen around on the wall. Attach it to the wall about 4-6" above the top of your pots, and as they grow weave the plants into those screens. If its a 400 watt light dont make it higher that 2-1/2 - 3 '. If a 400watt light will grow a 2-1/2 square, then you have room for about 3 of those along the wall. Just bend the screen in somehow so that it will form a rough circle about the lamp. Using a cool tube will allow those plants plenty of room to grow buds inward towards your lamp. For the next phase, you will add one shelf around the walls to hold the next level of plants to grow up into the next 2 1/2' of screen. Then you'll stack another 400w lamp w/ cool tube on top of that. Of course, you will have to solve the teperature issue first. You will get much better yield for your money if you listen to those guys about cooling. You have several options depending on who else lives with you and stuff. Look at chillers, mini-split ac's, window units, or just good fans. If it doesnt get to hot where you live you could draw air from outside thru a duct across your bulbs, thru a scrubber and then back outside. You can remove 80% of the heat way if its ool outside. Hope this helps - good job yours is very clean and cool looking
I stopped this grow a while back when my dad got paranoid about getting caught. Had to disassemble everything and such. But my plants were growing beautifully in an 85-100 degree variable environment (usually around 85-90, sometimes went down to 80 or so at night when it got cooler).

AC would have only been a huge drain of energy and not at all worth it, especially seeing as the plants were doing just fine as is (after installing the new air-coolable reflector hood and ducting).

I'll keep your advice in mind for my next grow, though, thanks for your input.

EDIT: by the way, if I didn't already mention it in the thread, I ended up having [AIR IN] > carbon filter > ducting > bulb/reflector > ducting into a crawlspace > 250CFM fan > vented right out through a vent in the c'space. The air that got pulled in through the closet was fresh air from outside, I kept my windows open.

Something worth noting - since I turned off and put away all my equipment, my room has been much dustier. It's possible a lot of that dust had been getting exhausted through the ducting system? I dunno. Just an interesting thought. I hate dust.

hes right - i live in deep south and this is a big isue down here - the poor mans solution is a strong fan and ducting to pull air from outside house and then exhaust it back outside. lol i just read it was your dads house. heheh - well i guess you can explain that the money he spends on electricity will be saved by you buying pot, but to get that savings he's got to come around on the AC
Well once he found out what was going on, as much as he'd like to have let me go on, he got too paranoid, so I had to shut down my operation. Unfortunate. Guess I should get moving to the west coast...
 

forgetiwashere

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$30 dollars will get u a 120mm exhaust fan and any good hardware store should have some cheap ducting but if its in a cupboard i would simply cut a inlet low on one side of the cupboard and install the exhaust fan somewhere near the top no ducting necessary simply let it vent into the room the cupboard is in. even better with some ducting you could suspend the exhaust fan just under the hood and vent it alot of the heat directly away from the light source and still cause steady airflow through the closet
 

BustedParaphernalia

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$30 dollars will get u a 120mm exhaust fan and any good hardware store should have some cheap ducting but if its in a cupboard i would simply cut a inlet low on one side of the cupboard and install the exhaust fan somewhere near the top no ducting necessary simply let it vent into the room the cupboard is in. even better with some ducting you could suspend the exhaust fan just under the hood and vent it alot of the heat directly away from the light source and still cause steady airflow through the closet
I have plenty of computer fans. I have everything from slow, low end to high, 6500 RPM fucking jet turbine sounding fans. But computer fans are gonna be worthless when it comes to venting a grow space. Because first you'd need to buy the fan itself ($10-$40 depending on what kind of computer fan), and then you'd need a molex to 3pin adapter so you can even plug it in to power it, which is at least another $20. I really don't think ANY 120mm fan is going to create "steady airflow through the closet". I respect your opinion, but I really think just about anyone would be better off investing in a centrifugal fan
 

Saldaw

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i have my grow box in an ACed room and the AC is sucking up all the humidity so my plants have really thin leaves.. thats why i dont think AC is a good idea.
 

iNFID3L

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what are you going to do when the plants mature and start taking up loads of room , all under that one lamp.
 

BustedParaphernalia

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I ended up doing super cropping and LST and they were working out fine before I dismantled the setup. They probably would have gotten out of control if I let them finish flowering

Definitely won't let them veg for so long next time
 
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