New 2 DWC/ Building bubble cloner ?s

Trichopathic1

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Im getting everything ready to build a bubble cloner/veg unit.I have a ten gallon container.A 20-30 gallon dual outlet air pump/2 10" air stones/tubing/dishwasher safe glue/silicone/black plastic paint/algae control. for light I plan to use a couple cfl's.I plan to paint the outside of container with black paint.the container has a small hole by each handle for the tubing to run thru perfectly.I plan to gluee the 2 air stones to the bottom length wise 1/3 from each side.the pump comes with 2 check valves.I would like to use 2" net pots with either neoprene plugs or rockwool and medium??I have the blueprints for stinkbuds systems(he rocks!) but only planned to use his flowering system.mainly to do it cheaper and easier.but would like to maintain useing the 2" pots to move easier from one system to another.
some questions are:
-can I use a 15 min timer and do 15 on 15 off or 15 on 30 off or something to that effect
-I know I need a ppm meter but is there any alternatives until I can afford a good one
-should I install an aquarium heater or just make sure to keep it between a certain temp range
-should I use the algacide or just keep changing res.

theres a few to start with.Am I on the right track here?? any help would be greatly appreciated!! thanks:weed:
 

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Trichopathic1

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My bad,most of my ?s have already been answered somewhere along the lines.I'll find em and figure it out.It would be nice if the search deal worked on here.It might as well be taken right off the list.from what I see Its broke.
 

entropic

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1. I'd keep the air pump running 24/7.
2. If you mix the nutes at 1/2 of the lowest strength listed on the bottle you'll probably be alright.
3. Depends on the temp, the cooler the res the more dissolved oxygen it's possible to have in the water, but it can be too cold and slow growth, I'm not positive but I think around 68F is around the optimal water temp for marijuana.
Block out all the light, change the res weekly, I don't know about algaecide.
 

Rexx420

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I just posted an update on my thread just after yours was updated... I keep my pump on 24/7 and use half strength nutrients, with the ph level kept between 5.5 and 7 ... I purchased a ph tester for a fish aquarium for $8 bucks at the hydro shop which seems to do the trick. I keep the light on 24/7 for clones and veg stage, and i had root development from cutings in the DWC in just 10 days. Hopefully that answers all your questions.
 

Trichopathic1

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1. I'd keep the air pump running 24/7.
2. If you mix the nutes at 1/2 of the lowest strength listed on the bottle you'll probably be alright.
3. Depends on the temp, the cooler the res the more dissolved oxygen it's possible to have in the water, but it can be too cold and slow growth, I'm not positive but I think around 68F is around the optimal water temp for marijuana.
Block out all the light, change the res weekly, I don't know about algaecide.
Thanks for the help entropic! I though I had heard 24/7 on the run time, so that makes it easy as long as the power stays on!? LOL Im initially using it for a cloner,but will also use for veg up to 12"-14 " plants.So to start I wont worry about nutes for clones.Im getting setup for 2"netpots with neoprene plugs.Im gonna use my bubblers for clone and veg.Then transfer them into my stinkbud 9000 designed by Mr. stinkbud(weed genius). Do I need to put my 10" air stones into boiling water to clean contaminants off them before useing??Other than that I think I will be testing this weekend and putting clones in soon! Thanks man:bigjoint:
I just posted an update on my thread just after yours was updated... I keep my pump on 24/7 and use half strength nutrients, with the ph level kept between 5.5 and 7 ... I purchased a ph tester for a fish aquarium for $8 bucks at the hydro shop which seems to do the trick. I keep the light on 24/7 for clones and veg stage, and i had root development from cutings in the DWC in just 10 days. Hopefully that answers all your questions.
Thanks Rexx420! Its even simpler than I thought.I think I have everything ready to run as soon as I get my net pots and neo plugs.This is my 1st experiments with hydro.only 1 soil grow under our belt with my girl Yellerz.check out this thread out. Thanks again guys!!
https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/164641-bagseed-harvest-7-weeks-plant.html
 

Trichopathic1

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I will post pics of what I have so far for tonite for you guys to scope out and give me any advice you see wrong .Thanks!!
 

Trichopathic1

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Thanks for the help Entropic! Good info. Kool, so I dont need to mess with boiling them.I will definately invest in a battery backup pump.Just in case.Do you know how long the plants can go without the pump on?
Heres a couple pics of what I have so far.Just need to glue my stones down and hook up the air lines.air lines will run through the 2 holes near the handles they already had there for me.Im going to mount the pump on the end of the bubbler opposite the drain on a (stick on) hook,so if I need to move it all I do is unplug and carry away.I decided to install a drain to make changing res easier.Just put it up on top of another container and drain.Refill.This is too easy! I am also putting thin weatherstripping around top edge of container to help keep light out and water in. Thanks again! I'll keep updating with pics.
 

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Trichopathic1

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OK I think im just about ready to test this baby out.Im thinking of adding a res level indicator on the outside of res with clear tubing. Thanks to a thread by diggitydank420.I wish I had green tubing instead of clear,but Im gonna cover it to keep algae from building up in it.Then once the level is where I like it I'll mark it on the tube for easy viewing of the res level.I thought about adding a 2nd res container mounted higher than the lower one.insert a hose into the lower one at the level where I want to keep the water up to.insert the other end of hose into the bottom of the higher res as the lower one loses water the upper res keeps it filled to desired height.Mostly for when Im away from home for 2-3 days.I will also be getting a battery backup system that turns on when theres power loss.Heres some new pics of what Ive got so far.Any advice would be great! Thanks:leaf:
 

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diggitydank420

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Thanks for the credits on the level indicator! Everything looks ready to rock and roll.

If you're cloning in that make sure that the res level is just below or barely touching the bottom tips of your cuttings.
 

Trichopathic1

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Thank you diggity! I was inspired by people like you with great easy ideas.Heres my res level indicator.I used some thicker tubing I had cuz it made the tight turn a lil' better without kinking.Do you think coloring the tubing with green sharpie marker would keep it from building algae as fast?otherwise Im gonna try to make a cover for it.I decided to put a drain to make it easy to drain res without moving it.As soon as I get the rest of the stuff I need.Mainly 2" net pots and noeprene collars.I will be cutting clones off these 2 in the pic.These were my 1st ever clones cut from a bushy female.there 2 months old now. Thanks for the help diggitydank!
 

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diggitydank420

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Yeah, I ended up using wiring sleeves to cover them up. I don't have a picture, but they are black plastic tubes that have a slit down the length of them. They are for bundling wires together if you know what I'm talking about.

Anyway, the marker might work. But I will say that algae was a problem in the tubes, but it never spread to the reservoir, so I don't know if it's even necessary.
 

Trichopathic1

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Yeah, I ended up using wiring sleeves to cover them up. I don't have a picture, but they are black plastic tubes that have a slit down the length of them. They are for bundling wires together if you know what I'm talking about.

Anyway, the marker might work. But I will say that algae was a problem in the tubes, but it never spread to the reservoir, so I don't know if it's even necessary.
Thats a great idea.I know exactly what your talking about.How about electrical tape over the tube where your not in the water level range.then a pc.of the wire sleeve over just the area within your water level,that just slides down or up to look.then slide back over without removing.If that made sense!? I know your res height isnt as tall as mine.but if you stay only in the range you need...might work good:lol: Im gonna try it.Thanks for the idea oh dankest 1:leaf:
Ever tried cloning tops of mother plants? What would you do as far as cutting clones off the 2 in the pic above as far as where(top-bottom) and were trying to keep the height down without hurting them.One of them was topped at 5 weeks old.the other was left alone.heres a couple individual pics of the mothers .Any advice?
Thanks for the rep too Diggity!
 

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diggitydank420

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On second thought, give me some pics with a nice closeup of the plant and I'll show you where to take a few cuttings, then you'll be able to figure it out on your own.
 

Trichopathic1

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Here the moms.I know its hard to see with pics.We had em in a small closet.trying to grow them slowly with minimal light & air.which kinda worked for a bit.If you look close you can see some single and double leafs.as they grew they would have 1 leaf,then 2,then 3.It was freakin me out at 1st! thought it was mutant or something!? After more studying I read that they will grow to the rate of what their given.But they started looking unhealthy a few days ago(outgrew their habitat) so I put them in a way bigger closet with more daylight cfl's and tons more air circulation and they look really happy about it today!:mrgreen: They are bushy lil bitches just like their momma!
Let me know what you think.thanks:grin:
 

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Trichopathic1

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Hey diggity I forgot to mention theyve had a slight nat problem were battling,but Im putting sand in there and fighting them with cedar oil spraying.Got em knocked down pretty good.
heres a few pics of the clone donor.we cut the clones(mothers in ?) when this plant was 6 weeks old.she yeilded 54 grams of dry harvested in 7 weeks
(taken a lil early)We think northern lights.It was good bagseed. check HER out!:peace:
 

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diggitydank420

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Damn, bro. I thought I'd be able to show you where to make cuts, but you have bushes there. This would be so easy in person.
 

Trichopathic1

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Its kool diggity, Thanks anyways,I knew it would be kinda hard to see.I'll figure it out.The topping is what Im most unsure of.I'll do some reading up to see the best way to do it.Thanks again:peace:
 
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