Need some help IDing bugs/mites

At first I thought these were aphids, but they are small and generally don’t change shape (ie I can’t see much of a difference between a larva vs adult stage). These are found primarily on lower bud sites. Have been using mercenary and physically removed a lot but it doesn’t seem to be enough. So i am not sure what these bugs are. I am growing in living soil, on day 45ish flower now. Thanks

That would be my guess.

Are they moving slow? They look a bit like spider mites to me.

It's never good finding bugs on the plant itself.

I can see webbing in some of your pictures.

You see anything under the leafs, or any webbing?

DoubleAtotheRON said:

You see anything under the leafs, or any webbing?

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In the first photo is that two strands of web just off centre to the right?

Sixth pic, looks like an aphid

Theweedses said:

At first I thought these were aphids, but they are small and generally don’t change shape (ie I can’t see much of a difference between a larva vs adult stage). These are found primarily on lower bud sites. Have been using mercenary and physically removed a lot but it doesn’t seem to be enough. So i am not sure what these bugs are. I am growing in living soil, on day 45ish flower now. Thanks

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Use Monterey green or red bottle, just mist the plants

WubbaLubbaDubDub said:

In the first photo is that two strands of web just off centre to the right?

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Good eye!.. yeah, I see it.... Prob spider mites.

Shit!, you might have both.

They move very slowly while on the leaves. Move faster on the stakes/ supports. I can’t really tell they move on the leaves until I get a loupe or some sort of magnification on them. I’ve looked for webbing and don’t see anything substantial to count as webbing. Could very well be some small amounts of webbing in the pics though. I thought I would see strands, black bugs, and yellow spotting on leaves with spider mites, but don’t see any of those signs. I also was under the assumption they didn’t like high humidity and my average has been about 59% the last few days due to rain and being in the basement. The sixth pic has the clearest shot of what the bugs/mites look like. They do hang out on the undersides as well as on the top of leaves and on sugar leaves near buds. They generally stay grouped together.

Just like I mentioned somebody else in another post man you can never go wrong with the Monterey products I’ve use Monterey green and red for outdoor and I only use it when I need it so far my indoor I haven’t had to use it

farangar said:

Are they moving slow? They look a bit like spider mites to me.

It's never good finding bugs on the plant itself.

I can see webbing in some of your pictures.

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Agreed not good they are in the plants themselves. This is the first time I’ve grown in the basement and haven’t faced anything more than fungus gnats. I am trying to get this under control but am limited on what I feel comfortable spraying since I’m so late into flower.

DoubleAtotheRON said:

Shit!, you might have both.

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I sincerely hope not. They all look and act pretty much the same to me but I am definitely not an expert on bug identification. But I do see the webbing in the pic others have referenced. I have been pretty up close with the plants the last few days, so I think I would notice some webbing here and there. However I won’t notice it if all the spots are like the one in the pic. That’s magnified to 30x I believe. Correction it was a macro lens clipped to my phone for those pics.

The buds aren’t buds yet id say spray them down with some non wafull shit

This is what i use
Just spray wait 2 minutes and the pests will die.. wash of the spray so you dont ingest..
the plans will wither but a fan will help speed up the drying
If you can try and collect the run off so it doesn’t get to the roots

If out doors try to rig something up ater the wash place your pot under a sauce pan with water to keep bugs away
A mini island

Billytheluther said:

The buds aren’t buds yet id say spray them down with some non wafull shit

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I have been using mercenary from cultured biologix so far so I have been using something spray wise. Thanks for the product suggestion. I’m on day 45-47 indoors so the buds are def buds, unless I am misunderstanding what you meant by that. The original pics are of a lower small bud. Attached pic is one of the tops to give development reference.

I’ve used both Monterey products while budding while flowering spray them and watch them fall! The only product I’ve ever used in the last 3/4 years growing again

Fuck dude.. i don’t know what to say other than thats some well developed bud...
ive been in your shoes though and id cut out the affected buds before.. my proble was bud worm though.. wish i could help more..

Billytheluther said:

Fuck dude.. i don’t know what to say other than thats some well developed bud...
ive been in your shoes though and id cut out the affected buds before.. my proble was bud worm though.. wish i could help more..

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Yeah that’s what sucks about it it all is I only have a limited time to be able to even spray anything. Thanks for your suggestions and replies though. I actually think I’m closer to 49 days so I’ve only got about 10 more days and def won’t want to spray anything right before harvest. I guess if worse comes to worse I make a lot of bubble hash