Need some advice on manure tea from fresh manure...

Hudsonvalley82

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I currently am growing 4 (non organic) NYPD from nirvana in a soiless potting mix called Country Cottage Professional (upstate NY local producer). I plan on using this mix for future grows as it is organic, and has no ferts or anything in it.

I have an unlimited supply of fresh goat manure...I have an outdoor fire area, and a cast iron pot (about 3/4 gallon) to boil in...I have made a tea (by boiling as I am afraid of dangerous microbes) and put some in a jar about a month ago...I don't think it is usable anymore, however, I would like to go this route for my next grows (which ship shortly). Is this a good method or idea seeing as how this manure is not composted? Should I make a tea first, then boil it? or boil it with a bag of manure in it?
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Other facts that may be useful: I am addicted to Soil Doctor pulverized limestone (non hydrated - dolomitic), which I add liberally to all mixes and top the soil with a light dusting every couple of waterings. I have a pound of humic acid powder, of which I just made a gallon of concentrate (messy job) by adding 8 oz (weight) to 1 gallon of distilled water. I have roughly 8 ounces by weight left. By having the fire for boiling or any other reason, I have a good amount of wood ash (from trees, not lumber) available, I have been saving it up in coffee cans. If needed I could also have an unlimited source of rabbit manure.
Setup: 4x4 veg box with 1000W MH, 6x4 Flower with 1000W HPS.

I am just not sure that what I am doing (or planning to do) is correct. Especially as far as ratios of tea to h20, other things to add, and so on...any advice you can give will be put to use, I am somewhat inexperienced with this, but I have a decent head on my shoulders and am willing to try about anything once...
 

Brick Top

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I can't tell you the best way to make a tea from goat manure but it does have its good points and its bad points, goat manure that is, and not just a tea made from it. In tests performed on various crops it out performed manure from dairy cows when it came to yields. A lesser amount used than dairy cow manure resulted in higher yields per acre than the larger amounts of dairy cow manure.

But there were some increases in disease problems. Seedling damping off increased as did Petiole rot (Rhizoctonia) problems and also Scurf (Rhizoctonia) problems. Several other common problems remained the same, among them Root lesions (Pythium), and only Cercospora leaf spot problems decreased.

Likely that is of little or no help but I thought it might be worth knowing.
 

Hudsonvalley82

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All info is helpful and definitely worth knowing...I'm hoping boiling it off, and some neem oil applications as prevention can help to lower my chances of those diseases, and keep my chances of increasing the yield...Thank you Brick Top...perhaps I'll use pig manure??? LOL
 

Brick Top

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All info is helpful and definitely worth knowing...I'm hoping boiling it off, and some neem oil applications as prevention can help to lower my chances of those diseases, and keep my chances of increasing the yield...Thank you Brick Top...perhaps I'll use pig manure??? LOL
Just be sure to sift out the teeth and hair first ... and dispose of them in a very secretive location.
 

snew

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If your boiling it you killing the beneficial micro as well as any problem that may exist. I would compost an manure first then make tea but I would not boil anything. If you must experiment with on that you use boiled tea one that simply let set with an aerator. See which produces more.
 

Hudsonvalley82

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Nice advice...I may just do that for future crops...I really don't have time for the manure to compost for this crop though (as I dont really want a 20 cubic yard pile next to my house all winter). I have mycorrhizae and other microbial additives I add to the tea after it cools, along with some molassas which (this is only guess work here) should give the mycorrhizae some carbs...I hope I am not wasting my time. I figure even if the tea is sterilized, I can reintroduce the proper cultures, maybe it can work out. Whats your opinion on adding a composting culture to the sterilized tea along with the mycorrhizae and letting it sit for a week prior to use in order to establish a live culture in the tea? Or should I just stfu?
 
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