Need more yield

dass

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Y Y CANT I GET MORE THAN A 1/2 OZ PER PLANT IM USING HOUSE AND GARDEN: BIO #1, BUD XL, ROOT EX, SHOOTING POWDER, PLUS, SUGAR DADDY. SOMETIMES EVEN LET VEG LONGER. I HAVE 400 WATT HPS IN ROOM 4' X 4' ROOM. PLANTS ARE 2 TO 3 FT......HELP I WANT MORE:leaf::leaf::leaf::leaf::leaf::bigjoint::bigjoint:
 

Hillcrest

Active Member
More info may help...
strain?
time vegged ?
time flowered ?(when exactly do you decide to harvest and why ?)
seed or clone ?
Pics
an indication to ventalation..... heating...... distance light from plants etc etc.....
 

tip top toker

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How many plants do you grow? I love how people expect all their questions answered without taking the time to actually givev some useful details.
 

adp420

Member
You mite try to loollypop th plants up to get more buds on top.
But it would be nice to have more info???????
 
4x4 room can take a 1000watt light if you have ventilation. Sorry some of these people jumped down your throat, lots of people are just dicks. 1/2 O isn't too bad under a 400. I personally think 1000 would give you some issues without some good ventilation, i would step up to the 600. They are the most efficient as far as lumens/watt plus it wont be as hard to keep temps in check.

Also you could add co2
 

tip top toker

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4x4 room can take a 1000watt light if you have ventilation. Sorry some of these people jumped down your throat, lots of people are just dicks. 1/2 O isn't too bad under a 400. I personally think 1000 would give you some issues without some good ventilation, i would step up to the 600. They are the most efficient as far as lumens/watt plus it wont be as hard to keep temps in check.

Also you could add co2
So i'm a dick for not giving advice or making a judgment until there is useful information? :lol: i'd rather tell him to come back with the info than start blindly telling him to upgrade his lights. Maybe he's getting 1/2oz becauyse he's got 30 plants under the 400w? Hence the requests for information..... haha :lol: depending on plant numbers 1/2 ooz is utterly shit for a 400w, hence the OP's desire to grow more, seems he knows there's more to be had from the light.
 

nog

Active Member
you need to understand effective light bands, depending upon the wattage there is only a limited band or layer of effective light a 400 watt bulb has an effective range between 6 and 21 inches any neerer and you will burn the plants and beyond 21 inches growth will be restricted. so the effective band or layer of light for a 400HPS is only 15 inches. you can grow a four foot plant under a 400 watt bulb and only the top will produce a decent yield. the botton 3 foot or so will be scrawny little bits of bud. it is a waste of time therefore growing a plant higher than about 18 inches, but you can still pull 3 oz off the 18 inch high plant. if you lst and suppercrop to produce as meny cola sites as your area will take, you can do a sog grow with say 4 plants under a 400 watt and crop 350 - 400 grams when you get good, and an average grower should still pull 200 grams off a 400 watt lamp.
 

nog

Active Member
also all that snake oil you are using is a waste of $ keep it simple, a cheap NPK 3-1-2 should be all you need.
 

Hillcrest

Active Member
More info may help...
strain?
time vegged ?
time flowered ?(when exactly do you decide to harvest and why ?)
seed or clone ?
Pics
an indication to ventalation..... heating...... distance light from plants etc etc.....
;)

No point in bang on about more lights to him ...... for all we know he maybe growing using badly learned techniques..... or simply an old light.
If he IS growing badly .......
or the strain he's growing is simply poor.....
or there maybe many factors producing such a low yield.
Increasing his light ain't going to help him ONE BIT except waste his time and money.


INFO INFO INFO
 

dass

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Blue hash dynamite bubble gum kush 10 plants in 4x4x6 tent with a 400 watt sunburst fix. Gd ventilation. Temp 75 to 82 degrees. Humidity about 40. House and garden product plus sugar daddy. My 3ft warlock got like a qtr. Popcorn buds ouch. Bubble gum kush was the same but that was a small plant. All from seed. Start veg at 5 to 7 nodes.
 

Mayor Quimby

Active Member
How long has this problem been going on?
What system are you running? (DWC? Ebb flow? Aero? Water Farm? Flood Tables? and so on...)
What STRAIN are you growing?
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?)
What is the age of your plants?
How tall are the plants?
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?
What Technique are you using?
What substrate/medium are you using?(Hydroton, RockWool etc.)
What is the Water temperature?
What color are your roots? White? Brown? Are your roots slimy?
What Nutrient's are you using? How much of each if using multiple?
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using?
What is the pH of the "Tank"?
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equiptment?
When was your last watering?
What is your water temps?
When was your last feeding change? (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional)
How often do you clean your system: example: Flush out water replace with clean water and nutrients?
What size bulb are you using?
What is the distance to the canopy?
What is your RH Factor(Relative Humidity)?
What is the canopy temperature?
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range)
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?
Is your water HARD or SOFT?
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water?
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When?
Are plant's infected with pest's
I think this should really help
 

shrigpiece

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I bet ya harvest to early, had a mate that dose this. Always mowned about poor yields and when i checked it out they were harvested 3 weeks early
 
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