Need help ppfd in a 3x3 12 vero 18's

morgwar

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So to start I had purchased an anjit "1200" cob pulled the chips and replaced them with vero 18s20170228_172913.jpg 20170228_172848.jpg
I helpful person gave me an estimate of 780 790 ppfd for a 2x3 space after I told them the cheap drivers were running 36 volts 1200 ma
I've since upgraded to a 3x3
I picked up some osram drivers for cheap
Off a local handiman/electrician for a song they say 25 watt 10-55 v 1250+ma
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And finally 8 new vero 18's on they're way from digikey
I just need some decent heat sinks

Question is will 14 vero 18's do the trick for 3x3

I am planning to free the 6 veros from they're anjit case later and building a framework
I buy vero 18s because they are cheap and perform well with my cheap drivers
Money is tight
I can't find the ppfd calculator and I'm terrible with math or lazy
Do I need all those vero18s I've only got drivers for 6?
I spent cash on some great genetics and I want to do em justice
4 plants 3x3x6.8 ft reflective tent
Thanks in advance for any friendly feedback
 

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morgwar

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No bites, well I'm gonna bump my own thread and ask if anyone has a working version of the "ppfd calculator" or a simpler equation that will give me a rough idea.
I've been reading and tryING to figure it out but everybody seems to do it differently
 

Randomblame

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14 Vero18 @700mA should work.

But to calculate some real # we need to know which Vero18 you've taken.
Are they gen.6 or 7?
If gen.7, which voltage version, d or c/29,5 or 35v?
Assumig you have the 35v version you should get ~320-350w @700mA, which is more then adequate for a 3x3' tent.
But also if you take gen.6 and 29v you should get round about 285-300w, which is a good start in your tent.

And for the ppfd calculations, there is a special thread.
Try the search function to find it and you need to install latest java to your pc to work with the calculator.
I've uploaded one but I don't know if it's the latest and you need to delete the .zip extension because it's not allowed to upload .jar files.
 

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morgwar

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Thanks man! I'll run eM when I get back to my pc
You were right on gen 7 35 volt, but I don't have dimmers and my drivers are running 1200ma, a little hot I know but they're cheap,
 

Randomblame

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Oh-oh...!
These are 25w drivers and should only run at 700mA with a 35v COB.
Check your wiring and test it with a kill-a-watt meter.
If they are not properly connected, they will not last long ...!
The drivers can run between 10-20v @ 1250mA (12-25w) and 55v @ 450mA or as with you, at 35v but 700mA.
In any case they should not run over 25w, otherwise they will overheat and break down soon.

As far as I can see from here you need to use the orange and the blue wire to connect the LED's for constant current operation with 700mA. Search the web for a datasheet.pdf!
 
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OLD MOTHER SATIVA

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i wish some of those drivers would not leave out the efficiency of the driver..i looked for it ..and could find every thing else

if its not there i generally assume its 80%..but we all know about "assume"

PS.... i miss Jorge Gonzalles
 

morgwar

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Done
doesn't seem dimmer but running 26 watts
Drivers weren't even warm before oh well
 
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