Right guys, im now thinking about starting a perpetual crop to maximise my annual production, never did it before for various reasons. I wondering which would be the best way of doing this since my space is a little limited. Ive got a grow tent for flowering which i use for all stages at the moment. Im going to use the wardrobe in my bedroom for the clones to veg for the 8 weeks it takes for my girls to flower. Am i better off taking my clones from my vegging plants just before i flip them to 12/12, or would i be best just starting from feminised seed every time? I know with clones you get about 2 to 3 the week head start on seeds, but as il have to veg them in the wardrobe for 8 weeks anyway would it be mors productive to use seeds? I dont have space to keep a mother plant for cuttings so was just gona take cuts from each plant each time just before they go into the flower tent and then grow those cuts into clones in the wardrobe. Also what size pots can i get away with the wardrobe is only 1m square, and ive got to veg for about 8 weeks so not sure how long i can leave em in tiny pots??? Ive never vegged anything for more than 4 weeks before.
Need advice with perpetual crop!
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Alienwidow
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You play with seeds running perpetual and if you ever get a herm or an accidental male in the room its all pollinated so that means that you have to stop adding into flowering until the youngest plant in the flower room runs through. Otherwise you can have nanners pop from the pollenated plants and ya....new ones are toast too.
Alienwidow
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Most people advocate taking them before you flip. Some strains will not even bat an eye if you take a flowering clone. But some will give you "basil leaves" with no saw edge, just a rounded leaf. And some will start popping three fingered or even one fingered leaves.
jacksthc
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I have been doing perpetual crops in soil for 10 years, done over 50 crops
good you have a strain that takes 8 weeks to flower
now this what you need to do
make up a small veg cabnet 18" (w) 18" (L) 24" (h) min size
and use a 150w cfl with a hood
The veg cab will be the space you keep the clones, veg the plants and dry the weed, everything has to be done in a set way and at the right time
take clones 7 days into flower 12/12 and you will get good results every time ( after this time you can get problems)
when you chop the plants down they need to hang in the veg room for 7 days to dry,
need to leave the extractor fan on low, the buds will dry enough to jar them up and cure for a week and there ready to smoke (burp them every day)
the clones should take 10-14 days to root and this gives you 5 weeks to veg the plants
would take 10 cutting to be safe
keep the plants in 1ltr pots ( 6 plants is a good amout of plants in a 1m room) top and lst the plants keep them as short and bushy to pull the highest yeild
pot them up and flower them on the same day, ( the aim is to fill the veg room with a thick level canopy in the 5 weeks )
the plant will double in size over the next 3 weeks, you should be pulling 10-16 oz's every 8 weeks
good you have a strain that takes 8 weeks to flower
now this what you need to do
make up a small veg cabnet 18" (w) 18" (L) 24" (h) min size
and use a 150w cfl with a hood
The veg cab will be the space you keep the clones, veg the plants and dry the weed, everything has to be done in a set way and at the right time
take clones 7 days into flower 12/12 and you will get good results every time ( after this time you can get problems)
when you chop the plants down they need to hang in the veg room for 7 days to dry,
need to leave the extractor fan on low, the buds will dry enough to jar them up and cure for a week and there ready to smoke (burp them every day)
the clones should take 10-14 days to root and this gives you 5 weeks to veg the plants
would take 10 cutting to be safe
keep the plants in 1ltr pots ( 6 plants is a good amout of plants in a 1m room) top and lst the plants keep them as short and bushy to pull the highest yeild
pot them up and flower them on the same day, ( the aim is to fill the veg room with a thick level canopy in the 5 weeks )
the plant will double in size over the next 3 weeks, you should be pulling 10-16 oz's every 8 weeks
harris hawk
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If space is your issue -consider this - grow a feminized plant (4 month grow) then grow some good yielding "auto's - sound slike you dont' have enought room gto take care of a mother plant. When one clones it shorten you total grow time to about 1 month as were auto's take the same amount of time. If you take clones take them from the middle of plant were it is the strongest. another consideration is container use auto's = 3 gallon - feminized plants =5 gallon
Labs Dexter
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I find it hard to clone and time wasting I do that with seeds and you get more..
But the issue your going to run into is that your timer has to stay on 12/12 constantly so when the older ones are finishing in flowering you can't take the timer down to help them finish,
And the young ones that have been added into the flowering room it will cause issues... Am I making sense
In other words for a good ripened buds you will need two flowering rooms one for newly added and one to finish off. That's what I'm having a problem with.
But the issue your going to run into is that your timer has to stay on 12/12 constantly so when the older ones are finishing in flowering you can't take the timer down to help them finish,
And the young ones that have been added into the flowering room it will cause issues... Am I making sense
In other words for a good ripened buds you will need two flowering rooms one for newly added and one to finish off. That's what I'm having a problem with.
Cobnobuler
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Yea, this can be an issue for sure. The OP mentions space issues using closets etc... I dunno, I know a guy on another site that has it worked out that he is harvesting one plant
a week. It's impressive, but it's also a lot of work and a few fuckups along the way can cause a trainwreck and pollen where you dont want it as mentioned above.
I assume the OP has a lot of growing experience. He'll need it running plants of different ages across the board.
It's definitely do-able tho.
Enigmatic Ways
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It seems to me that people make this more complicated than what it actually is, this is how I'm setting up my perpetual....I have a 5x5x7 tent for flowering then I have a 3x3x7 for veg..I start from seed in the veg tent for 53 days then I move those to the flowering room and then I simply start a new batch seeds in the veg tent when my flowering plants are about 3 weeks into flowering... And wallah you'll have a harvest every 8-10 weeks depending on strain of course.
Labs Dexter
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That's what I have I get what your talking about every four weeks I chop
as in 2weeks from now I'm chopping then four weeks after that and so on...
What I was trying to point out was is it needed to reduce time towards end of flowering?
If not then it's info that I need because before this I only had the one and only room to veg and flower and what I did was reduced time bit by bit and then at the end of flowering it was under 12 hrs.
Does it affect? Or Is it a problem? because what ever some one says is info I need.
I wasn't trying to complicate things I just put that point across to see if it is relevant or irrelevant
as in 2weeks from now I'm chopping then four weeks after that and so on...
What I was trying to point out was is it needed to reduce time towards end of flowering?
If not then it's info that I need because before this I only had the one and only room to veg and flower and what I did was reduced time bit by bit and then at the end of flowering it was under 12 hrs.
Does it affect? Or Is it a problem? because what ever some one says is info I need.
I wasn't trying to complicate things I just put that point across to see if it is relevant or irrelevant
Enigmatic Ways
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Oh ok I see what your doing, sounds good to me...keep doing what works for you.
Labs Dexter
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Lol is it okay to just keep it at 12/12? I'm not trying to question you just wanna know for my info ir if I need to make changes
undercovergrow
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i run a perpetual with a veg tent and a small flower room. # seeds are germinated to replace # girls going into flower (and they veg for the 9/10 weeks) and i don't have any problems with girls finishing/starting all in the same flower room. the only problem i had initially was not taking into consideration the amount of males that can show up, so now that i've got that resolved-i harvest a few each month.
Enigmatic Ways
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Oh ok so you actually go below 12/12 so what do you do 10/14 or something like that...I know for a fact I would never do that, those precious hours of light directly corresponds with your end harvest yield, and the new flowering plants are going to suffer some from less light {less yield} but you know how this goes, if it ain't broke...
Labs Dexter
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Lol no need to get exited with your self.
I don't wanna jack his thread
And before when I had the one room after around 6 weeks I started to take off 15mins every four days untill however long it took for em to finish.
Dr. Who
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A tent for Bloom eh?
I'll figure space for 4 unless you grow small...
Your problem lies in the vegging space - to small.
Unless you do a 2 plant exchange once a month on true 8 week finishers.
You should be cloning at or before the flip, when you trim for flower.
A wardrobe closet I take? Full height?
Make a low shelf that the clones go under and the older veggers are on top of , , expanding to bloom size/time..So your making 2 area's from 1!
This will help for your plan lots...
Seeds will begin to get costly and not to mention the dreaded CUSTOMS confiscations from overseas seed buy's.....They happen and even one time would through you back to starting over on the perpetual road......CLONES are the way to go!
Doc
I'll figure space for 4 unless you grow small...
Your problem lies in the vegging space - to small.
Unless you do a 2 plant exchange once a month on true 8 week finishers.
You should be cloning at or before the flip, when you trim for flower.
A wardrobe closet I take? Full height?
Make a low shelf that the clones go under and the older veggers are on top of , , expanding to bloom size/time..So your making 2 area's from 1!
This will help for your plan lots...
Seeds will begin to get costly and not to mention the dreaded CUSTOMS confiscations from overseas seed buy's.....They happen and even one time would through you back to starting over on the perpetual road......CLONES are the way to go!
Doc
Enigmatic Ways
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So how much are you harvesting per light?
Enigmatic Ways
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Yes that is very true about seeds...that's why next summer I'm going to start making my own seeds do a few outdoor plants male and females let them pollinate themselves and use the seeds for my indoor grow. Does that sound like a good plan to you Dr?