Need a diagnosis

So Im helping out with a mates grow. We took clones from a friends outdoor grow that were a good bit along in flowering and put them back into veg. They are either hollands hope or skywalker. They got mixed up. Out of 8 of them 4 look good but the other 4 look really weird. They dont even look like weed plants. The have rounded leaves and are growing funny. They are under a 600w hps and were given a small bit of nutes. I can't understand why they would go this way. Also he has a Shining silver haze and the leave have become all wrinkly and sort of shrivelled but still grow well.

Heres the pictures

Shining silver haze.

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The other sick ones

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That is perfectly normal for some strains to have round leaves after cloning. It'll get serrated leaves soon enough.

Serapis said:

That is perfectly normal for some strains to have round leaves after cloning. It'll get serrated leaves soon enough.

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Whats your thoughts on the haze in the first 2 pictures.

It ok to flower them even with the rounded leaves cause they're going to 12/12 today

that not real weed.
it not going to bud.

Serapis said:

That is perfectly normal for some strains to have round leaves after cloning. It'll get serrated leaves soon enough.

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I wouldn't go that far. That shouldn't happen to the extent in these photos, using a 600. I'll see this happen in poor lighting conditions, and when you reveg. The first photos show a manganese problem too.

Needofweed said:

that not real weed.
it not going to bud.

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That my friend definitely is real weed. Ask its 12 ft mother.

I would give them a little time to get their shit togather before 12/12. I have no clue rather you need to or not. I'm geting about a lb per clone this year. They where moms for a year before they went in the ground. Could have done beter but still happy. good luck.

What are your temps? I see some serious leaf curl there.

Cannabis goes weird like that for a while after going from flower back into veg,
wait til the growth returns to serrated cannabis leaves, then take cuttings and flower

Temperatures are ok. Staying in around 75 degrees. Thought the heat might have something to do with it alright. Any estimates on how long before normal growth returns?

I would bet new growth will be good.

Serapis said:

That is perfectly normal for some strains to have round leaves after cloning. It'll get serrated leaves soon enough.

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agreed. this is especially true if you take clones during flowering. as the plant re-enters the vegetative state, it basically reboots its growth pattern. i had a white widow that i re-vegged after sexing, and the entire plant began to grow 1 leafset, then 3, and finally 5 and 7 leaves again. they also started out rounded similar to yours. the only problem i can see is that with the curled edges of the leaves in some pics, they may be suffering from over-feeding or high temps. since you say it's 75 in there, i'm betting on the over-feeding.

RRLBT420 said:

agreed. this is especially true if you take clones during flowering. as the plant re-enters the vegetative state, it basically reboots its growth pattern. i had a white widow that i re-vegged after sexing, and the entire plant began to grow 1 leafset, then 3, and finally 5 and 7 leaves again. they also started out rounded similar to yours. the only problem i can see is that with the curled edges of the leaves in some pics, they may be suffering from over-feeding or high temps. since you say it's 75 in there, i'm betting on the over-feeding.

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Thanks for all the tips guys. I raised the light 12 in to help reduce the heat. I very much doubt that it us overfeeding as we've given barely no food. I was just so confused cause the plant turned into something barely like a weed plant. So we think the last few pictures are due to reverting but what do you think the problem is with te first too pictures

Sorry, missed the part where he said it was already flowering.

Punk said:

I wouldn't go that far. That shouldn't happen to the extent in these photos, using a 600. I'll see this happen in poor lighting conditions, and when you reveg. The first photos show a manganese problem too.

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Hey man

Your saying the first 2 pictures are a manganese problem. Too little or too much and how can I rectify it?