Natures Sweet Nothings

twistedwords

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She's out of business and won't be taking anyone else's money. What are you going to do sue her because you ordered seeds that are not what they are supposed to be. MJ is still illegal federally. Hell man I drank from the same jug of Koolaid that you did, but I have moved on. It's not like you lost hundreds of dollars. Roll up a big fat tighty, puff, puff, and pass, and forget about it. Have fun with the beans you've got or throw them away.

That is good to know with a comment like that. So with your comment you just told the world hey come and scam me and i won't do a thing about it. Real smart.
 

needsomebeans

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That is good to know with a comment like that. So with your comment you just told the world hey come and scam me and i won't do a thing about it. Real smart.
I spent 5 weeks vegging 3 male plants from these seeds that were supposed to be female. Do I like the fact that I wasted electricity, nutes, and time? Hell no, but at the end of the day I along with everyone else was warned. Life moves on.
 

bakenast

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That is good to know with a comment like that. So with your comment you just told the world hey come and scam me and i won't do a thing about it. Real smart.
I agree.. hes very defensive when people get upset with getting ripped off,, we should all just be queit, and happy with loosing money... I like extorting people who commit fraud,, I feel no reason to let it go.. I lost 80 bucks
 

Ace Yonder

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I agree.. hes very defensive when people get upset with getting ripped off,, we should all just be queit, and happy with loosing money... I like extorting people who commit fraud,, I feel no reason to let it go.. I lost 80 bucks
Maybe next time you should test the waters a bit before you go all in. There was literally a free seed giveaway to test before you buy, AND the option to buy single seeds. I can understand that you're mad that you feel you miss-spent $80, but you really weren't ripped off, the products you paid for were seeds and you GOT seeds, your [technically illegal] germination of them and your assumptions about their growth after such germination comes with no guarantees, especially when you're getting discount off-brand versions, the term is caveat emptor. If you buy a "Rolex" for $10 on some street corner in Times Square, did you get "Ripped off" when you discover that those aren't real diamonds on it's face, and that the "gold" watchband is actually pewter? Or should you be happy that it actually tells time, and you should only buy it if that's good enough, and you certainly shouldn't assume they are genuine and buy the entire stock thinking you just got the best deal that's ever been offered. Every single post about this seedbank (Which you have to have seen since they were the only places to get the address) said that everyone considered it a gamble, that all you should expect is bagseed and if that's not good enough you probably shouldn't take the chance, but YOU STILL CHOSE to do it. When you CHOOSE to gamble, in my eyes you lose the right to complain when you don't win the jackpot. The fact that you chose to gamble with $80 is totally on you, next time you probably won't make the same mistake.
 
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needsomebeans

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I hope that sums the situation up Ace. If I have ever sounded defensive on here, I offer my apologies. I was just trying to get everyone to chill out. Bakenast I hope that every seed that you plant is female and yields you copious amounts of high quality meds.
 

Lizard420

Member
Well thought I would update my purchase. So no auto's out of the 20 started with friends and since I was a month in I picked the best 4 females and started to flower. 3 weeks later the best looking plant decided it no longer wants to be female and I woke up to this. So at this point I'm ditching her plants not worth the problems. No idea why she went hermie on me tent temps are in the mid 70's in secret Jardin tent with no light leaks. So good luck to everyone else who bought her bag seed and hopefully you guys have better luck.
 

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st0wandgrow

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I spent 5 weeks vegging 3 male plants from these seeds that were supposed to be female. Do I like the fact that I wasted electricity, nutes, and time? Hell no, but at the end of the day I along with everyone else was warned. Life moves on.
Maybe next time you should test the waters a bit before you go all in. There was literally a free seed giveaway to test before you buy, AND the option to buy single seeds. I can understand that you're mad that you feel you miss-spent $80, but you really weren't ripped off, the products you paid for were seeds and you GOT seeds, your [technically illegal] germination of them and your assumptions about their growth after such germination comes with no guarantees, especially when you're getting discount off-brand versions, the term is caveat emptor. If you buy a "Rolex" for $10 on some street corner in Times Square, did you get "Ripped off" when you discover that those aren't real diamonds on it's face, and that the "gold" watchband is actually pewter? Or should you be happy that it actually tells time, and you should only buy it if that's good enough, and you certainly shouldn't assume they are genuine and buy the entire stock thinking you just got the best deal that's ever been offered. Every single post about this seedbank (Which you have to have seen since they were the only places to get the address) said that everyone considered it a gamble, that all you should expect is bagseed and if that's not good enough you probably shouldn't take the chance, but YOU STILL CHOSE to do it. When you CHOOSE to gamble, in my eyes you lose the right to complain when you don't win the jackpot. The fact that you chose to gamble with $80 is totally on you, next time you probably won't make the same mistake.
You guys make a fair point about the quality of the seeds. Nobody should be expecting top shelf gear for $.50 per seed. However, I see nothing wrong with people expecting to get feminized seeds when they ordered feminized seeds, or expecting autos when they ordered autos. It's bullshit, and it's shady.

So given all of that, why are you guys trying to protect her? Fuck that! Put her on blast. If she delivered what was promised you would have a leg to stand on here, but she didnt. She's a con artist that deserves to be called out... regardless of what she was charging.
 

needsomebeans

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I say you guys need to hire a top shelf lawyer and file a class action lawsuit against her. Oh wait a second it illegal to germinate MJ seeds in the U.S. Shipping the seeds across a the state line and using USPS a federal crime also. I'm not protecting no one but myself. Do you guys think she is registered with the BBB?Go ahead a contact PayPal tell them you bought a bunch of MJ seeds and they weren't what you paid for. I'd say that might get you a visit from your local police department. All I have ever said towards this situation is live and learn. Sorry if some of you guys went all in with her gear. I myself made a couple of other orders at other places and I paid way more then $.50 a piece for the beans. As far as being a monkey I may not be far from it.
 

needsomebeans

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You guys make a fair point about the quality of the seeds. Nobody should be expecting top shelf gear for $.50 per seed. However, I see nothing wrong with people expecting to get feminized seeds when they ordered feminized seeds, or expecting autos when they ordered autos. It's bullshit, and it's shady.

So given all of that, why are you guys trying to protect her? Fuck that! Put her on blast. If she delivered what was promised you would have a leg to stand on here, but she didnt. She's a con artist that deserves to be called out... regardless of what she was charging.
We were warned fairly in advance of ordering from this source that more then likely these were "bag seeds". Did I purchase some? Yeah sure did. Did I like the results? No not at all. Would I have bought more? Heck no. You can't buy a 2 karat diamond ring set in 18 karat gold for $150 bucks. At some point you have to say I can't believe that I was warned about these seeds not being autos or feminized and still bought them. Everyone on this site is over 18 and I would hope that for the most part not really that naive
 

st0wandgrow

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I say you guys need to hire a top shelf lawyer and file a class action lawsuit against her. Oh wait a second it illegal to germinate MJ seeds in the U.S. Shipping the seeds across a the state line and using USPS a federal crime also. I'm not protecting no one but myself. Do you guys think she is registered with the BBB?
That's not the point. Nobody is suggesting that a formal complaint should be filed. What I can't understand is why you guys are taking issue with people bitching about a con artist? Just because the beans were cheap doesn't mean that people shouldn't expect to get feminized seeds if that's what they paid for. Price should have no bearing on that. Are you suggesting that people should only be allowed to vent if they paid $1 per seed? $5 per seed? $10 per seed? At what price point should it be OK for people to call out a shady company?

Also, who gives a shit if her Facebook info is posted here? She's clearly running a scam, so why should anyone care about protecting her identity?
 

needsomebeans

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That's not the point. Nobody is suggesting that a formal complaint should be filed. What I can't understand is why you guys are taking issue with people bitching about a con artist? Just because the beans were cheap doesn't mean that people shouldn't expect to get feminized seeds if that's what they paid for. Price should have no bearing on that. Are you suggesting that people should only be allowed to vent if they paid $1 per seed? $5 per seed? $10 per seed? At what price point should it be OK for people to call out a shady company?

Also, who gives a shit if her Facebook info is posted here? She's clearly running a scam, so why should anyone care about protecting her identity?
I don't care a rats rectum about her but did you stop to think her kids, grandkids, or any other relatives are on their also. They are innocent in this and there is no reason for them to be exposed in all of this.
 

bakenast

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but you really weren't ripped off,.
ok thanks in the future when I buy things that people intentially lie about to make money I know its not a rip off... I guess its like paying for a pair of 80$ nike shoes and receiveing a pair of 5$ shoes,, its not really ripping any off since your still getting shoes Lolol
 

twistedwords

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I don't care a rats rectum about her but did you stop to think her kids, grandkids, or any other relatives are on their also. They are innocent in this and there is no reason for them to be exposed in all of this.

Probably because you joined here February 16, 2015 and your profile only consists of natures Sweet Nothings posts, replies and threads. Your defense of this scam site is obvious that you are involved.

https://www.rollitup.org/members/needsomebeans.896630/
 

needsomebeans

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Probably because you joined here February 16, 2015 and your profile only consists of natures Sweet Nothings posts, replies and threads. Your defense of this scam site is obvious that you are involved.

https://www.rollitup.org/members/needsomebeans.896630/
Dude you figured me out. Every day I ride my bicycle from the east coast to Cali to collect my portion of the proceeds. I stop at area 51 on my way back home to see my alien friends and then its off to the Ozarks to pet my Sasquatch. Oh yeah I try to swing by Jimmy Hoffa's grave at least once a week. You are right I have posted on this thread many times but I have been trying to document a grow of these nsn beans. If I was working with her I seriously doubt that I would have reported in this thread that they were indeed males. I also have a grow journal going in the newbie section, a few threads in the led section, a few questions about nutes in another, and several other messages in the seed bank review threads. If you are trying to make me mad by calling me names and making false claims against me keep trying. It takes an individual with way more knowledge and Intellect then you possess.
 
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needsomebeans

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Probably because you joined here February 16, 2015 and your profile only consists of natures Sweet Nothings posts, replies and threads. Your defense of this scam site is obvious that you are involved.

https://www.rollitup.org/members/needsomebeans.896630/
Oh bye the way, you have been a member since 2010 and have posted 390 times and received a total of 22 likes. I would say that you are just doing a whole lot blowing smoke that no one really cares about.
 

Ace Yonder

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ok thanks in the future when I buy things that people intentially lie about to make money I know its not a rip off... I guess its like paying for a pair of 80$ nike shoes and receiveing a pair of 5$ shoes,, its not really ripping any off since your still getting shoes Lolol
No, it's like paying $5 for a pair of nikes that you thought would be worth $80 and then being pissed that they're only worth $5. Do some research before you spend your money, or this will happen to you over and over and over.
 
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Ace Yonder

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That's not the point. Nobody is suggesting that a formal complaint should be filed. What I can't understand is why you guys are taking issue with people bitching about a con artist? Just because the beans were cheap doesn't mean that people shouldn't expect to get feminized seeds if that's what they paid for. Price should have no bearing on that. Are you suggesting that people should only be allowed to vent if they paid $1 per seed? $5 per seed? $10 per seed? At what price point should it be OK for people to call out a shady company?

Also, who gives a shit if her Facebook info is posted here? She's clearly running a scam, so why should anyone care about protecting her identity?
It's ok to call them a shady company, that's fine. Doxxing people over petty sums of money isn't. The reason this whole thing pisses me off is that I am FINE with the quality of the seeds, but because of people with unrealistic expectations who throw a shitfit when they don't get what they want, I probably won't ever be able to buy these seeds again. I didn't want femmed autos, I just wanted cheap ass seeds for when I am out of bagseed to test out techniques on, and now, because people expected $0.50 seeds to perform the same as $10 seeds and threw a hissy fit when they didn't, that option is gone. THAT'S why their reaction pisses me off. It would be like if your favorite casino got shut down because some dip complained that he lost money. If you don't want to gamble, don't play the lotto, just stick with a brand name bank. If you want to gamble, don't whine when you lose out, and ruin it for everyone else. Call them a shady bank, talk about how the "Fem" seeds aren't fem. Don't file complaints with Paypal and get the site shutdown, then take the shipping info you got and use it to Dox the site owner and then make 3rd grade fat jokes about it. Act like an adult who makes considered decisions, not like a petulant child who is mad they didn't get exactly what they wanted. And yes, the amount you pay per seed DIRECTLY correlates to the amount you are justified in complaining about them. If you pay a lot, complain a lot, if you pay almost nothing then shut the fuck up about it.

That's not the point. Nobody is suggesting that a formal complaint should be filed.
And just to reiterate, this is EXACTLY what people have been DOING, not only "suggesting" but actually DOING. That's why the site got shut down, but even that wasn't enough, so they started the doxxing.
 
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twistedwords

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Dude you figured me out. Every day I ride my bicycle from the east coast to Cali to collect my portion of the proceeds. I stop at area 51 on my way back home to see my alien friends and then its off to the Ozarks to pet my Sasquatch. Oh yeah I try to swing by Jimmy Hoffa's grave at least once a week. You are right I have posted on this thread many times but I have been trying to document a grow of these nsn beans. If I was working with her I seriously doubt that I would have reported in this thread that they were indeed males. I also have a grow journal going in the newbie section, a few threads in the led section, a few questions about nutes in another, and several other messages in the seed bank review threads. If you are trying to make me mad by calling me names and making false claims against me keep trying. It takes an individual with way more knowledge and Intellect then you possess.

You are a shitfuck newbie here riding a bicycle and you got caught moronic CHILD.
 
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