My kid sent me this

Fogdog

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Just that the news is biased by whoever owns the company.
If you watch fox for an hour then watch cnn for an hour it is pretty clear both are slanted
You can't distinguish facts based reporting from fake news?

Facts based reporting:
content is verifiable
multiple sources
cross-checking
interviews that give several viewpoints with counter-arguments where there are disagreements
claims made in interviews are fact checked
opinions are clearly distinguished from analysis
FOX has violated that list of criteria in many, many instances. They reported the Pizzagate "scandal" as true. Also a story about a DNC programmer's murder was claimed to be a DNC hit on the man. They even continued the story after the man't grieving family requested they stop. They only ceased when the family threatened a lawsuit. FOX even won the right to deliberately report untrue stories in a Florida court.

If you want to compare the Financial Times's bias with, say, Washington Post, then I'd agree that one is conservative and the other is liberal but I read both, I pay subscriptions to both and see both as good sources of facts-based reporting.

There is nothing wrong with a media outlet that tends to focus on conservative issues or liberal issues so long as they stick to facts. FOX and Brietbart for example don't do this. Yet I see in your statement that you equate the bias in facts based reporting at CNN or NPR to the ideological articles at FOX and Breitbart who play fast and loose with the facts. They don't occupy the same plane of credibility.
 

charface

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You can't distinguish facts based reporting from fake news?

Facts based reporting:
content is verifiable
multiple sources
cross-checking
interviews that give several viewpoints with counter-arguments where there are disagreements
claims made in interviews are fact checked
opinions are clearly distinguished from analysis
FOX has violated that list of criteria in many, many instances. They reported the Pizzagate "scandal" as true. Also a story about a DNC programmer's murder was claimed to be a DNC hit on the man. They even continued the story after the man't grieving family requested they stop. They only ceased when the family threatened a lawsuit. FOX even won the right to deliberately report untrue stories in a Florida court.

If you want to compare the Financial Times's bias with, say, Washington Post, then I'd agree that one is conservative and the other is liberal but I read both, I pay subscriptions to both and see both as good sources of facts-based reporting.

There is nothing wrong with a media outlet that tends to focus on conservative issues or liberal issues so long as they stick to facts. FOX and Brietbart for example don't do this. Yet I see in your statement that you equate the bias in facts based reporting at CNN or NPR to the ideological articles at FOX and Breitbart who play fast and loose with the facts. They don't occupy the same plane of credibility.
I was stating my opinion about what my sons point was by sending me the video, I based that opinion on having been around him almost daily while raising him.
Still, I could be wrong.
I didn't ask him.
 

Fogdog

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I was stating my opinion about what my sons point was by sending me the video, I based that opinion on having been around him almost daily while raising him.
Still, I could be wrong.
I didn't ask him.
I don't know if you know the story behind those TV anchor-men/women who are all repeating the same thing. Sinclair is a very conservative broadcasting network who is making all their TV reporters record the same thing. In their case, it's just propaganda because as James Oliver showed in his weekly show, they have no intention of holding themselves to facts based reporting.
 

charface

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I don't know if you know the story behind those TV anchor-men/women who are all repeating the same thing. Sinclair is a very conservative broadcasting network who is making all their TV reporters record the same thing. In their case, it's just propaganda because as James Oliver showed in his weekly show, they have no intention of holding themselves to facts based reporting.
I had never heard of Sinclair until watching that.

I "thought" in the recent past I seen a different video that did something similar but across companies
On both sides. Ill have to look for it.
I also may have just assumed that was the case,
 

Fogdog

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I had never heard of Sinclair until watching that.

I "thought" in the recent past I seen a different video that did something similar but across companies
On both sides. Ill have to look for it.
I also may have just assumed that was the case,
You are Canada? I don't think they have any stations there. It's a nasty right wing media power grab. Right wing echo chamber practically owns the AM radio air play and are now moving in on local TV.
 

UncleBuck

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sinclair has scooped up a lot of local stations and makes the mall repeat the same national level message straight from trump and his handlers.

completely defeats the point of having independent local broadcasting and news
 

UncleBuck

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You are Canada? I don't think they have any stations there. It's a nasty right wing media power grab. Right wing echo chamber practically owns the AM radio air play and are now moving in on local TV.
i think he's from my old neck of the woods, round the portland area. maybe just a little north but still on the better side of the washington/oregon state line
 

Fogdog

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i think he's from my old neck of the woods, round the portland area. maybe just a little north but still on the better side of the washington/oregon state line
Sinclair isn't in Oregon yet.

Local papers in my area are all sewn up by right wing moguls. The one in Eugene is about the only independent left.
 

charface

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This might be what I originally watched, trouble is I wouldn't know who owns what. Still its amusing
 

charface

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People who make videos also have leanings/agendas so again,
Im too dumb to know who to trust so I take it all as entertainment.
Like news porn
 

Sir Napsalot

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Sinclair isn't in Oregon yet.

Local papers in my area are all sewn up by right wing moguls. The one in Eugene is about the only independent left.
The Eugene Register-Guard was recently sold to a big fucking conglomerate

The local CBS affiliate is owned by Sinclair

They recently axed Boris Epshteyn's little Trump propaganda bit

I actually called a couple of their local sponsors and said I was boycotting them- they feigned ignorance
 

Fogdog

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The Eugene Register-Guard was recently sold to a big fucking conglomerate

The local CBS affiliate is owned by Sinclair

They recently axed Boris Epshteyn's little Trump propaganda bit

I actually called a couple of their local sponsors and said I was boycotting them- they feigned ignorance
sorry to hear that. I don't live in Eugene and so I only rarely bought a copy but have been known to spend hours going through it. It was an outstanding resource to the city. The big conglomerates are ruining the concept of local newspapers.

That was a miss on my part regarding the CBS station. Thanks for pointing that out. I don't own a TV and really never watched TV news. My parents did though. It's getting harder to find good local news outlets.
 

ttystikk

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Just that the news is biased by whoever owns the company.
If you watch fox for an hour then watch cnn for an hour it is pretty clear both are slanted
Right.

Because as Steven Colbert so astutely pointed out, facts have a well known liberal bias.
 
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