MY GOD! bud are ugly as hell and look dried on the plant

plantsinpants

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i have a couple of plants outdoors that i have kept organic this summer and the buds are really dark and look dry they dont have the same texture as the top of the plant idk its fucking weird,, lack of nutes maybe??

i gave them compost tea and guano tea every 2 feedings and i also used molasses a lil bit. most of them are fine but like 2 out of 16 have the lower half of the plants buds looking shitty
 

andyk187

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need pictures, could be all kinds of things. I'd stay away from molasses, i've had BAD things happen with that stuff. Killed a whole plant of mine by breeding fungus gnats, and yes i only used 1 tsp for 2 gallons of water, and in 3 weeks my plant fell over and i noticed little black gnats flying around, roots were GONE, literally! but it could be all kinds of things, did you look up close and make sure you dont have any bugs on it? could be a nutrient issue though
 

snowznw10

Member
Pic would help man
but if i was you il start curing a little bud and see if theres anything weird about the taste/smell/high when you smoke it
 

Brick Top

New Member
I'd stay away from molasses, i've had BAD things happen with that stuff.

Like anything you have to use it correctly.




“Molasses and Plant Carbohydrates”
Sugars relating to plant functions for maximum economic

production

Printed by permission of Texas Plant & Soil Lab, Inc.

ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS that affect when and how much sugar to use:

a. How much nitrate is in the soil, and plant sap (petiole test).
b. Soil moisture conditions.
c. Sunlight intensity.
d. Temperature.
e. Wind
f. Fruiting stage / load
g. Growth / vigor [shade lower leaves]

The right amount at the right time can improve fruiting and produce normal
plant growth with less attraction for disease and insects.

Needed for healthy plants - fruit production - plant development &
maturity.

Roots take nutrients from the soil and transport them up the stalk thru the
petiole (stem) to the leaves where the sunlight aids the production of
photosynthates (sugars are not the ONLY product of photosynthesis)
carbohydrates (C, H & O), principally glucose (C6H12O6) and then other sugars and photosynthates are formed.

Plant Sugars and other photosynthates are first translocated (boron is
essential to the translocation) to a fruiting site. If fruit is not available, the
sugars, along with excess nitrates, spur the rapid vegetative growth of the plant at the expense of creating fruiting bodies (first sink) for the storage of the sugars.

Once the proper balance of environmental factors (heat units, light intensity, soil moisture, nutrient balance, etc) are met, the fruiting buds form and then fruit formation gets the first crack at the sugar supply.

Any excess sugars are then translocated to the number two sink, (growing terminals,) to speed their growth.

The left-over sugars, etc. then go to the number 3 sink, (the roots,) to aid their growth. Here the new root hairs take
up nutrients to help continue the cycle of sugar and other photosynthate production, fruiting, growth of terminals and roots.

ADDED SUGARS CAN AID THE PLANT IN SEVERAL WAYS:
-
MOLASSES is probably the best outside source of many sugars, such as table sugar, corn syrup and several more complex sugars such as polysaccharides found in humus products.

- Sugar can be added to the soil in irrigation water, drip & pivot being the most
effective.

* In the soil it can:

- Feed microbes to stimulate the conversion of nitrates to the more
efficient NH2 form of N to synthesize protein more directly by the plants.

- The roots can directly absorb some of the sugars into the sap stream to
supplement the leaf supply to fruit where it is most needed, and ALSO directly
feed the roots for continued productive growth.

- This ADDED sugar can also help initiate fruiting buds in a steady-slow
fashion while maintaining normal growth.

-EXCESSIVE amounts of ADDED SUGARS applied foliarly can shock the
plant resulting in shortened growth internodes, increased leaf maturity & initiation of excess fruiting sites. This can be a short term effect lasting only a few days.


Pollination, soil moisture, nutrient balance and sufficiency as well as
adequate light for photosynthate production decide how much of the
induced fruit can mature.
 

plantsinpants

Well-Known Member
i lost the fucking usb cable for my cam ,, il try and get one soon, but yeah,,, some of the buds look terrible, the hairs are pink and purple they dont smell at all and theres not alot of trichomes,,, sooo dont know man! coulb be alkaline or acidic to the extreme i guess?? but the tops look and smell fine but the lower you go on the plant the uglyer it gets,,,,,

try to get some pics soon
 

tom__420

Well-Known Member
Like anything you have to use it correctly.



but i did use it correctly mr shit-brick,,ummm
i mean bricktop,,:eyesmoke:
He gives you some awesome info and you try ragging on his name? Good luck getting help from anyone on here with that kind of attitude... No wonder your plants don't look good
 

XxNinjaxX

Well-Known Member
i lost the fucking usb cable for my cam ,, il try and get one soon, but yeah,,, some of the buds look terrible, the hairs are pink and purple they dont smell at all and theres not alot of trichomes,,, sooo dont know man! coulb be alkaline or acidic to the extreme i guess?? but the tops look and smell fine but the lower you go on the plant the uglyer it gets,,,,,

try to get some pics soon
How long has this been like this? It happened to me on my very 1st grow. Started on d bottom of d plant n within 3days it was dead. Unfortunately I didn't kno then wat I know now so I never tested it n worked out wat it is..
 

bonghits4all

Well-Known Member
need pictures, could be all kinds of things. I'd stay away from molasses, i've had BAD things happen with that stuff. Killed a whole plant of mine by breeding fungus gnats, and yes i only used 1 tsp for 2 gallons of water, and in 3 weeks my plant fell over and i noticed little black gnats flying around, roots were GONE, literally! but it could be all kinds of things, did you look up close and make sure you dont have any bugs on it? could be a nutrient issue though

sorry man but you are sooo dead wrong just plain wrong...

mollasses is AWESOME in flower yo increase density and help break down starch and salts into simple sugars.......

stop giving bad info.. molasses will not breed gnats.....

my advice keep it cleaner and dryer..no more gnats........trying to blame mollasses is soooooooo lame.
 

plantsinpants

Well-Known Member
How long has this been like this? It happened to me on my very 1st grow. Started on d bottom of d plant n within 3days it was dead. Unfortunately I didn't kno then wat I know now so I never tested it n worked out wat it is..

yeah i dont know man! ive grown my share of plants and ive never seen this shit,
but then again id never gone organic nor did i ever use molasses before soo i think its either the molasses or i need to invest in a better PH meter,,,
bongsmilie
 

bonghits4all

Well-Known Member
my guess is youve never even grow a plant.......wheres the pics,,,,,,? no usb..........lame excuse.

mollasses is awesome

grown organic in happy frog soil...... fed high posporus bat guano and humboldts 100% organic bloom and alot of molasses.





your problem is ph related im willing to bet....
 

cruzer101

Well-Known Member
I still think you should just pickem and smokem and move on.

You dont know what they are planted in, you dont know if it was mixed right.
Fuck it, pluck it.
 

Johnboh

Active Member
sorry man but you are sooo dead wrong just plain wrong...

mollasses is AWESOME in flower yo increase density and help break down starch and salts into simple sugars.......

stop giving bad info.. molasses will not breed gnats.....

my advice keep it cleaner and dryer..no more gnats........trying to blame mollasses is soooooooo lame.

bet the soil he was using was shit and had alot of bark mulch in it. thats where most gnats come from. shitty soil with bark mulch in it.
 

XxNinjaxX

Well-Known Member
Thats where most gnats come from. shitty soil with bark mulch in it.
Fucking Aye!
I had good Coco soil and no probs watsoever, then accepted a plant off a friend that he had started.. It was in shitty bark mulch and BAM! I had Gnats all over my shit in no-time.
 

bonghits4all

Well-Known Member
just calling you out man...... dont have to like it...... but way i see it is ya got no pics and your saying molasses is bringing gnats and harming your plants.....
so i put 2 and 2 together ......

and concluded ....... this guy aint even serious.
 

darkdestruction420

Well-Known Member
y'all need to lay off him, that bricktop thing he was just fucking around. cant u guys take a joke? and this guy never claimed that it was the mollasses hurting it or attracting them little gnats........
 

darkdestruction420

Well-Known Member
where are they?... i see a well grown plant going through a flush...

do you ever have anything constructive to say?
telling the guy it looked good for a first grow is not anything bad or offensive. he was right on the def part too......maybe you need to back off. he didnt do anything wrong.......telling they look good but have a lil problem is not constructive?:roll:
 
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