My first soil test results

After finishing my first grow in a no-till soil, i sent samples to Logan Labs and to soil Savvy to help with my re-amending the soil. Results are in, but i'm honestly not sure what to do with them and was hoping to get some input.

My soil:
20 gallons Sphagnum
20 gallons EWC
10 gallons Pumice
7 gallons Rice Hulls
3 gallons biochar
8 cups insect frass
8 cups biolive
8 cups basalt
8 cups azomite
8 cups gypsum
8 cups oyster shell flour
8 cups neem
8 cups kelp
16 cups malted barley powder

I'm growing indoors, under DE HPS in 10 gallon pots. Water only. I top dressed a mix of ewc's, biolive, neem, kelp, guano and malted barley during week 5. The soil sample was taken after my first harvest in this soil

My test results:
Logan Labs

Logan Saturated paste

Soil Savvy

Sorry for the separate posts. For some reason my computer is crashing every time i try to put more than one file on a post

Is there a more user friendly way to post these results?

rkmcdon said:

Soil Savvy

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Looks high in Phosphorus, Calcium, and Sulfur. Lacking in Iron, Manganese, and Boron. Everything else looks pretty good.

Any thoughts on how to address Iron, Manganese and Boron deficiencies? I was thinking I would back off the gypsum given how high my Mag and Sulfur are. I will leave out the oyster shell in the re-amending process until the calcium starts to come back down. Its those deficiencies I'm not sure how to address

I think every test looks the same,low in some high in others.
This is what the horse guy was talking about.He foiler fed something to get manganese ,iron etc up.Cant remember its here somewhere.

myke said:

I think every test looks the same,low in some high in others.
This is what the horse guy was talking about.He foiler fed something to get manganese ,iron etc up.Cant remember its here somewhere.

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Lol, the horse guy? You dont mean @MustangStudFarm do you?

I was initially going to do a soil similar to this, it’s similar to buildasoils modern mix 2.0 but was thinking about dumbing it down a little, and not using so many amendments.

with that being said, if yours is already low in some using this many amendments, what is one supposed to do?

rkmcdon said:

Any thoughts on how to address Iron, Manganese and Boron deficiencies? I was thinking I would back off the gypsum given how high my Mag and Sulfur are. I will leave out the oyster shell in the re-amending process until the calcium starts to come back down. Its those deficiencies I'm not sure how to address

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Maybe the TM-7. I bought the big 6.

You can get $5 off if you go through this link.

rkmcdon said:

Any thoughts on how to address Iron, Manganese and Boron deficiencies? I was thinking I would back off the gypsum given how high my Mag and Sulfur are. I will leave out the oyster shell in the re-amending process until the calcium starts to come back down. Its those deficiencies I'm not sure how to address

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Anything bloody or green plant matter is good for iron. Plant material is a good source for both boron and manganese. A combination of both green and brown would be best.

P.S. - deficient trace elements like those are really common in modern agriculture. Just think cover crops, crop cycles, mulching etc. If those elements are what your soil needs, i think extra plant material will be a good amendment. Plus it'll aid in fertility and soil structure.

rkmcdon said:

Lol, the horse guy? You dont mean @MustangStudFarm do you?

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Ha yeah. Never remember. I think he may have gotten a time out

rkmcdon said:

Any thoughts on how to address Iron, Manganese and Boron deficiencies? I was thinking I would back off the gypsum given how high my Mag and Sulfur are. I will leave out the oyster shell in the re-amending process until the calcium starts to come back down. Its those deficiencies I'm not sure how to address

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Amino acids bonds to Calcium and is absorbed into the plant. Youtube NPK university with the guy Harvey. The episode I'm talking about is the one about bio-stimulants

PadawanWarrior said:

Maybe the TM-7. I bought the big 6.

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Wow! That looks just about perfect! Thanks @PadawanWarrior !

Aussieaceae said:

Anything bloody or green plant matter is good for iron. Plant material is a good source for both boron and manganese. A combination of both green and brown would be best.

P.S. - deficient trace elements like those are really common in modern agriculture. Just think cover crops, crop cycles, mulching etc. If those elements are what your soil needs, i think extra plant material will be a good amendment. Plus it'll aid in fertility and soil structure.

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I've been shredding all of my plants and leaves and have it composting. I will be adding feeding it to the worm bin so it will make it back into the soil eventually, it will just take a little time

@EastCoastGenetix said:

Amino acids bonds to Calcium and is absorbed into the plant. Youtube NPK university with the guy Harvey. The episode I'm talking about is the one about bio-stimulants

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Thank you . I'll check it out!

myke said:

Ha yeah. Never remember. I think he may have gotten a time out

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Time out?

So for now, i'll:

• Drop gypsum and oyster shell from reammending mix. Monitor with soil savvy to identify when they need to be added back
• Pick up the TM7 to address boron, iron and manganese deficiencies
• Continue working towards getting plant material back into the soil.

Hopefully that will balance things out!

rkmcdon said:

So for now, i'll:

• Drop gypsum and oyster shell from reammending mix. Monitor with soil savvy to identify when they need to be added back
• Pick up the TM7 to address boron, iron and manganese deficiencies
• Continue working towards getting plant material back into the soil.

Hopefully that will balance things out!

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Have you had your water tested?

Aren't you at all concerned with the high soil pH and bicarbonate levels in the soil solution (saturated paste test)?

How did that first grow in the new soil go? Did you have any problems, how did your plants look throughout the grow?

Soil tests are neat, but Plants in the dirt can tell you a lot too!