My first indoor grow

Hello everyone! this will be my first post and im excited to begin documenting my grow!

first off, heres what im working with:
-General organics go line of nutrients + superthrive @1 drop per gal
-4' 6 bulb T5 fixture by EnviroGro
-4 strains (started from clones) Ak47, white widow, barneys blue cheese, and black russian
-3 gal. buckets with fox farm soil

my room is kept between 70-77 degrees, it just seems to stay at that temp by itself for now.
my clones have been vegging for 7 weeks now, with the exception of the white widow which is at 5 weeks.
ive trained them all down pretty flat by using hooks stuck into the soil and looped over branches, after a couple days the hooks are moved around and the branches stay pretty much like they were. as the plants grow and the branches get thicker my hooks arent working as well and ive been just training them out by hand, a little bit of gentle bending every day.
im hoping to switch them over the flower soon, i wouldve done this a couple weeks ago but i wanted the white widow to catch up a little but so i could flower them all at once. and now i have a bit of an issue i need to clear up before i can do that.

issues: in some of my pics you will see the leaves looking a little sickly. this started happening first on my AK plant, and i thought it was just a bad clone from a not so healthy mother. i considered killing it and trying something different but then the same things started happening to my other plants as well. now im thinking nute burn? it looks to me like a combination of nitrogen overabundance and a calcium deficiency..but this is my first indoor grow and ive never encountered these things before. i came to that conclusion after much internet research ive been following the chart that came with my nutes, (i ordered the go box) and doing feed, water, water. i was also foliar feeding every other day with the same nutes, diluted to 1/8 the strength id feed them with. i dont understnd how my plants were so badly damaged by following the feeding directions to a T, but since then ive flushed in the tub, running at least 6 gallons of water thru each pot, and watered twice. so technically theyve had 3 waterings since their last feed and i stopped foliar feeding as well to get this problem to clear up. ive noticed this past week that new growth is starting to be healthy looking. not sure if i will feed them again when theyre dried out, only using 1/2 strength, or water them once more for safe measures.

here are a few pictures, the first one is of all 4, sorry the picture is sideways but starting from the bottom left going clockwise, its AK, WW, BBC, BR



this second picture is of my barneys blue cheese, im amazed at the number of tops its got, i havent been topping, just training it down flat.


this last picture is a good look at my leaf damage. this is my AK which was hit the hardest and even after bouncing back quite a bit it still has some problem spots.



ill be updating this with new pics maybe once a week? if anyone has any tips or suggestions id greatly appreciate it! this site has been so helpful to me and im trying to become more involved with it.

take care everyone!

You've got 4 plants, 4 diff. strains.
You won't always be able to keep them happy feeding the same strength and nutes.
I've got 5 plants going right now 4 strains, and am constantly having to look at each one to see what she wants.
Before you start throwing more nutes at them, what is your PH?

im realizing that as i go i researched the strains im growing beforehand but ive still got more 'hands on' kinda learning to do. seeing the way that each plant was affected was actually more helpful than reading about their differences i think, i know i may have hurt my plants a little by doing so, but now i have a better idea on which ones are more 'picky' i guess.

my PH is 6.2 straight out of the tap, i havent tested the ph of my nutrient mixture since it says ph levels do not need to be adjusted. i also havent tested any run off yet.

thanks for checking out my grow!

I'm no pro by a long shot, but I would start feeding with fox farms big bloom, and quit foliar feeding. That stuff rules. 1/4 cup per gallon. You wont be dissapointed.

ive seen grows using general organics nutes, and others using foxfarm..and while i know its not just what you feed it that makes a plant grow, ive heard more good things about GO than FF nutes. maybe someday ill be able to play around and do side by side comparisons but for now im going to stick to what ive already bought thanks for your opinion though!

turbobuzz said:

I'm no pro by a long shot, but I would start feeding with fox farms big bloom, and quit foliar feeding. That stuff rules. 1/4 cup per gallon. You wont be dissapointed.

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Dude.
What the fuck?
You're telling him to put 2 ounces per gallon?
Try 2 TABLESPOONS per gallon.

Rust&Stardust said:

im realizing that as i go i researched the strains im growing beforehand but ive still got more 'hands on' kinda learning to do. seeing the way that each plant was affected was actually more helpful than reading about their differences i think, i know i may have hurt my plants a little by doing so, but now i have a better idea on which ones are more 'picky' i guess.

my PH is 6.2 straight out of the tap, i havent tested the ph of my nutrient mixture since it says ph levels do not need to be adjusted. i also havent tested any run off yet.

thanks for checking out my grow!

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I would keep an eye on your grow, because your PH is already just a touch low, and IDK what nutes you have, but it is common for nutes to lower PH even further.
That third pic looks to me like it's already hungry for Ca, Mg, and K.

turbobuzz said:

I'm no pro by a long shot, but I would start feeding with fox farms big bloom, and quit foliar feeding. That stuff rules. 1/4 cup per gallon. You wont be dissapointed.

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You should be banned.

Slow your roll Bak, the guy meant good. I am quite familiar with the product and the guy is right its the bees knees, you can use up to a 1/2 cup per gal. cus it is just a dilute organic tea essentially of ewc and some guano, the NPK numbers are as follows, .01-.3-.7 so if N overdose was indeed the problem feeding them this could help get them back on track atlest then tweak the GO schedule as needed, a buddy used that stuff his first time growing and it did not end well, veganics is not meant for someone who does not soundly understand plant nutrition, no offense meant to the op its just not a beginner nute. If you want simplicity and veganics try bioCanna. And unlike that go box that has a fish based product that stuff is legit plant based nutrition if that is the route you are trying to go.
And I agree with the recommendation to stop foliaring, I only do it with AACTs, when I am cloning, and if Neem is needed, do not need to be clogging your stomata.

natro.hydro said:

Slow your roll Bak, the guy meant good. I am quite familiar with the product and the guy is right its the bees knees, you can use up to a 1/2 cup per gal. cus it is just a dilute organic tea essentially of ewc and some guano, the NPK numbers are as follows, .01-.3-.7 so if N overdose was indeed the problem feeding them this could help get them back on track atlest then tweak the GO schedule as needed, a buddy used that stuff his first time growing and it did not end well, veganics is not meant for someone who does not soundly understand plant nutrition, no offense meant to the op its just not a beginner nute. If you want simplicity and veganics try bioCanna. And unlike that go box that has a fish based product that stuff is legit plant based nutrition if that is the route you are trying to go.
And I agree with the recommendation to stop foliaring, I only do it with AACTs, when I am cloning, and if Neem is needed, do not need to be clogging your stomata.

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I realize it's weak stuff, I have some myself, but what I worry about is telling somebody that, then they go and read the label, and see that they were told it's OK to put 6 times what the label says, then they try it with something else, and end up with a stalk and no foliage.

Ah, thought you just read the dosage and not the product. Some people have never heard of it but get goofy eyed when they see it is fox farms, Idk how some people get such vendettas against nute companies lol, if the shit did not work people would not use it!

natro.hydro said:

Ah, thought you just read the dosage and not the product. Some people have never heard of it but get goofy eyed when they see it is fox farms, Idk how some people get such vendettas against nute companies lol, if the shit did not work people would not use it!

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No prob man, just a mis-communication is all.
I was lucky enough to get a sample pack of their stuff, and can't complain about anything, but still don't know if it works any better than the other stuff I've been using.

thank you for the input..hmm..well hopefully i can get the go box nutes to work for me, this line does have a fish based ((well, squid)) product in it, BioMarine, and ive been including that too. i really wanna give this line a fair try though, so if i decide to switch to a different line it will be for my next grow. and no worries, i always always always read instructions..i wouldnt go dumping in large amounts of anything just because someone here told me to..

i have stopped foliar feeding..as much as i hate to..i see logic behind it and thought it was doing the plant good as long as its diluted enough, but i guess not.

as for my ph, i will test my nute solution next time i mix some up..and see what change in ph it gives me.

for anyone who hasnt seen it before, heres a pic of whats included in my 'go box' :


thanks everyone for the new ideas!

ok so its been just about 2 weeks since i put up the last pics, so time for an update! they look much better since they were flushed, i havent fed them yet, but in a day or 2 they should be ready for a drink! ill be diluting nutes to half strength and feeding them the week 4 recipe on the side of the box. i switched the lights to 12/12 on dec. 10th, but only started to notice pistils yesterday. im considering today as day 2 of flowering.

view from the back
(clockwise from lower right, Barneys blue cheese, black russian, AK, white widow)



from the side
(again, clockwise from lower right, black russian, ak, white widow, blue cheese)



blue cheese from above, still doing the best of all 4.


im working on coming up with a scrog net that i can attach to the buckets themselves instead of one big net for all 4. i need to be able to carry these babies down a bunch of stairs to flush them so they need to stay separate from each other. it may not be very practical or the best way to do it but hey, its my first grow! i gotta figure these things out somehow!

i do have a question though, since theyve just begun to switch over to flowering, would it be a good idea to spray them all down with mineral oil as a mite preventative seeings how i wont be able to once there are buds forming? i had a slight mite problem earlier on and though i noticed it early and they never spread to all the plants, i still treated them all anyways. they are so much bushier now im worried that if i get mites again somehow itll be damn near imposible to get rid of them! should i just risk it and leave them alone? there arent any mites in my house as of now, and i dont plan on bringing in any new plants that might be carrying them..so maybe im just paranoid

anyways thanks for checking em out! let me know what you think! take care everyone!

Looks good star! You have a great combo of strains. I love to see how others are growing their green. Keep us posted on your progress and keep up the good work!!

12 days into flower now and the little buds are starting to take shape and fill in the nodes not much smell yet with the exception on miss white widow, who is already quite fragrant! im still combating the brown spotted leaves, since they were all affected im taking them off a few at a time as they die back, so i wont stress the plant. i had to adjust my light schedule from 7am-7pm to 10am-10pm since im working almost every day and dont have time until later on to go tend them. this didnt seem to affect them at all, it was changed like a week ago..theyve had their first water and are almost ready for their second, then possibly a third watering before feeding since im still so paranoid about over feeding them! ive got 2 sets of pictures taken 3 days apart to compare and see how fast they are starting to fill in..

1st set ((friday))


2nd set ((monday))


im not really hoping to get much off these since ive already damaged them a bit and id imagine its going to take a toll on production, but im keeping a written journal of every little thing i do to each plant so my next run i can reference it and hopefully do better im also considering a different growing medium since maybe the FFOF soil had more in it than i thought and is also contributing to my issues. how long does the soil itself feed for? i put these plants in 3 gallons of fresh soil each on oct. 18th and started feeding them 10 days later :/

anyways, thanks for checkin it out! feel free to give guidance! take care!

Looking good so far, if i was you though i would quit pulling leaves off lol. It may not look pretty but the lant is still using the live cells in the leaf for photosynthesis and onelce the plant deems the leaf usless it will make an enzymatic abcission at the stem and the leaf will drop. Not a biggie but dont wabt to stress the plant if there is no need. Whne i was using ffof ( using roots organics now, compacts less) i would use their light warrior seed starter (should be right next to it) in thre transplant zone just to make sure i didnt burn the roots cus it can be a lil hot dependingon how fresh thr bag is. Keep it green man

Rust&Stardust said:

12 days into flower now and the little buds are starting to take shape and fill in the nodes not much smell yet with the exception on miss white widow, who is already quite fragrant! im still combating the brown spotted leaves, since they were all affected im taking them off a few at a time as they die back, so i wont stress the plant. i had to adjust my light schedule from 7am-7pm to 10am-10pm since im working almost every day and dont have time until later on to go tend them. this didnt seem to affect them at all, it was changed like a week ago..theyve had their first water and are almost ready for their second, then possibly a third watering before feeding since im still so paranoid about over feeding them! ive got 2 sets of pictures taken 3 days apart to compare and see how fast they are starting to fill in..

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im not really hoping to get much off these since ive already damaged them a bit and id imagine its going to take a toll on production, but im keeping a written journal of every little thing i do to each plant so my next run i can reference it and hopefully do better im also considering a different growing medium since maybe the FFOF soil had more in it than i thought and is also contributing to my issues. how long does the soil itself feed for? i put these plants in 3 gallons of fresh soil each on oct. 18th and started feeding them 10 days later :/

anyways, thanks for checkin it out! feel free to give guidance! take care!

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Ya, they're starting to get hungry, but you're doing a lot better than before!

I usually won't take any leafs off unless a light brush by them will knock them off, otherwise, they are still helping your plant.

ive been trying to limit the leaves i remove to the ones that are already more than half brown..so i dont take off ones that are still feeding into the plant much.

completely unrelated to my grow, but i got this in the mail today! a dab wizard pin! kick ass!