My first grow

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pustiu2k

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Hi all,

This is my first post here.My setup is like this:
1 x 1 hps(150watt)
1 x 1 hps-mh ballast(150watt)
1 x 1cfl(30-32watt)
2 x standard pc fans

I use tap watter at about 5.5-6.5 ph and nutes for home plants.By the way this is allmost 6 weeks in from seed.im still vegging them and thinkin of cloning the big one to determine the sex.Some spots appeared on the leafs,figure from undernutin,i don know for sure,so please leave your thoughts and suggestions.

Thnks in advice :-P sorry if i forgat anything,so please let my know and i will update.
 

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welshsmoker

welshsmoker

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looking good, though for six weeks they are a bit small, try some bigger pots mate, you might find they are rootbound.. good luck
 
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pustiu2k

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any ideeas of when i shoud start cloning?i mean,i have the big one.,looks oke but dont know on if its allright to start cloning to determine the sex.the light is now on 18/6(light/dark)
 
MikExV

MikExV

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arnt you suppose to do 12/12 (light/dark) first. then 16/8(light dark) tell its finished budding?
 
K21701

K21701

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If you are cloning, determine sex first by putting it under 12/12...once it shows sex then you can clone and put the Mom back under 18/6 if you want to veg her some more....
 
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pustiu2k

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and i shoud use a separate place for the big one to flower it?and how long untill it show?1 to 2 weeks?
thanks for the great rely,your really helping me.

First from seed,i used about 24/24 light up to 3-4 weeks then sweetched to 18/6.I thought that 12/12 is only for flowering and determine sex with clones not with the mother.i dont know what to do next :(
 
K21701

K21701

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Well you want clones from a female right???? Well you don't know your "Mom" is female until you put her into flower....Put her in 12/12 to make her flower...when you see your first white pistol you know she is a female. Put her back under 18/6 and she will revert back to vegging again and you can take your clones knowing that they will be females....Plus read up some more...there is a ton of info out there!!!
 
K21701

K21701

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Oh and how much longer are you going to veg? You are aware that plants double to triple there size when you start 12/12....
 
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pustiu2k

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im planning to veg till saturday(6weeks).btw going to get a reflector soon and some mylar to help in the loss of light due to the lack of finences.so,the rest is oke so far?
 
K21701

K21701

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Yeah they look thirsty...when is the last time they had a drink??? What kind of nutes are you using? What is the ph of water you are using? What temps are they in? I honestly think that you need to do a lot more research.....
 
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pustiu2k

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i honestly think your not helping,no offense.they drink once every 3-4 days.temp is above 20C and lower than 30C(24-27) and if you were paing any attention the rest is postesd on my first cry for help.i have done some intense research,but cant figure why does this happens.never to dry never to wet,never to cold never to hot.standard nutes for house plants,cand afford a expensive one.the light is oke,150 hps.soil is in a mix with perlite.sorry,im new at this and im giving my best so stop judgin.
 
K21701

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I am not trying to judge but those last pics you showed looked extremely dry. From 420 magazine:" Under-watering is less of a problem, since it is easily recognised. When the soil becomes too dry, the plant wilts. Plant cells are kept rigid by the pressure of their cell contents, which are mostly water. With the water gone, they collapse. First the bottom leaves droop, and the condition quickly works its way up the plant until the top lops over. If this happens, water immediately. Recovery is so fast, you can follow the movement of water up the stem as it fills and brings turgor to the leaves. A plant may survive a wilted condition of several days, but at the very least some leaves will drop." The ph you gave on your first post of 5.5-6.5 is a big range...are you taking a ph reading or just guessing....not trying to make you mad but 5.5 is to low for soil. I don't know what "general nutes" are...what brand are they? If you are mixing nutes according to the directions try backing down to 1/2 strength and go from there.
 
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pustiu2k

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ok,so sorry about the last post,im just irritated about the problem.so,first of the ph is measured by some ph sticks and match them on the legend of the ph stiks container(watter ph is 6.5 and soil is 5.5-6 to be more precise)I cant afford a electronic meter,but ill get one as soon as i have enough money.the nutes ar as i said standard,meaning the the npk sounds somethin like this 8-6-5(ill check and update when i know for sure,but that is kind of what i use)the recommanded use is 10mm/L.My friend,who i started this,used it for the first time when i was out of town, and he respected the instructions.last night at about 8 pm, i feed them with nutes but with only 5mm/L,somethin like you said.so from what i understand, the problem may be from under wattering?if so,how do you suggest feeding them,something like a schedule(ex. watter once 2 days with lets say 200mm watter and the third time with nutes,or in another way: when with what and how much,hope you understand).thanks for the fast reply man,and sorry again for my last post,i really appreciate your help here.by the way just followed your advice on 12/12 schedule, so im hopping for the best(female lol :D ).
 
Stinkmeaner

Stinkmeaner

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use should keep your soil moist at all times. only let it dry out completely on separate occasions. like twice a month. people say they respond well to that
 
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pustiu2k

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ill try to keep it moist,but now wet.the rest is ok?i mean how it lookin from a big perspective.the setup and everything.any suggestions ar verry verry welcome. :D
 
K21701

K21701

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pustiu2k said:
ok,so sorry about the last post,im just irritated about the problem.so,first of the ph is measured by some ph sticks and match them on the legend of the ph stiks container(watter ph is 6.5 and soil is 5.5-6 to be more precise)I cant afford a electronic meter,but ill get one as soon as i have enough money.the nutes ar as i said standard,meaning the the npk sounds somethin like this 8-6-5(ill check and update when i know for sure,but that is kind of what i use)the recommanded use is 10mm/L.My friend,who i started this,used it for the first time when i was out of town, and he respected the instructions.last night at about 8 pm, i feed them with nutes but with only 5mm/L,somethin like you said.so from what i understand, the problem may be from under wattering?if so,how do you suggest feeding them,something like a schedule(ex. watter once 2 days with lets say 200mm watter and the third time with nutes,or in another way: when with what and how much,hope you understand).thanks for the fast reply man,and sorry again for my last post,i really appreciate your help here.by the way just followed your advice on 12/12 schedule, so im hopping for the best(female lol :D ).
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Hey no problem...I know it can get frustrating!!! I don't grow in soil but I read a lot on here and from what I have read people feed about every third time they water. Also they water when you stick your finger into the first knuckle and it is still dry. Water well until you see some run off then they should be good for a couple of days until they get bigger and require more. You may want to transplant into a bigger container that will get you through until the end so you don't have to transplant more than once. I wish you luck and hope you get a nice female in that group to use for a "Mom". As soon as they show their sex get rid of the males and put the rest back on 18/6 if you want them to veg longer....
 
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pustiu2k

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so some preflowers have appeard,but not yet fully developed.maybe today ill make the diffrence.hope to be good news.
 
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