My first Closet Grow on Low Budget ( 2 x Aurora Indica 2 x Short Rider Auto ) 2012

weed.senior

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Posted on 03-04-2012 ( After the hacking of rollitup.org forums I used Google cache to recover some of the infos from my old thread )

Hello Guys.
I purchased a month ago seeds from Nirvana for me and a friend. At the time my plants are 12 days old but I'll post some pics from the very start. This is my first attemt to grow weed indoor. I'll use two CFL for the early veggin and MH/HPS after.

Cannabis Seed Germination - Paper Towel Method
For the germination I did the paper towel method which worked for me very well : 4 out of 5 popped into nice plants.
I waited for 1-2 days and it was a nice moment when I saw the seeds are viable and ready for the next step.
I purchased 5 Aurora Indica, 5 Short Rider and 5 AK48 ( feminized seeds ) and paid ~80 euros for all.
So 3 x Short Rider in the left side and 2 x Aurora Indica in the right side. And my story begins :)

Day 2 - My cannabis seedlings in my cat's house :)
For the first days I used my cat's cage. This way I was able to protect them because my cat gets very curious about lights and new shits ( especially plants ). So if you have a pet you need to make sure they'll not damage your plants.
Think on things twice so you won't get any issues.
I'm using for the first days 1 x Osram Dulux Superstar 30W 1940 lm, 2500K ( 10 usd in stores ), some regular soil from a gardening store and small pots from the same place.
I watered them with low percent of nutrients but this is a mistake I think. For the first 2 weeks or so use only plain water. Make sure you get a clean water from the shop or distiled water. Don't over-water, you can do that by taking a 1 day break. The plants can do well with less water for a while.
Ahh make sure your pots have some holes at the bottom for the extra water.

Day 3 - New grow place / Cannabis stems weak and stretched
I changed my grow room and left my cat's cage. Used a wood box and added an extra fan for ventilation ( 15 usd )
Also I added a second lamp : Osram Dulux Superstar 30W 1940 lm, 2500K
For 20 USD I got a temp/humidity monitor and some timers.
The girls are doing fine, plenty of light BUT I did one mistake. The lights are pretty far away from my plants and they get a little streched and their stems got thin. Dealing with a weak stem is not that hard, you can always add extra soil and this way you can get a stable plant. When you realise that the stems are streched bring the lights closer especially when you use CFL lamps.

Day 6 - Enjoying light
Now it's so obvious that my plants are really loving the light. The fan blows them and hopefully their stems will be stronger.
The light cycle I chosed is 18/6 but I've heared that a 24/7 light on them could not be bad.
This is the day when I decided that I should add some extra soil to them. I burried like 1-2 cm from the stems in the soil. Act gentle on them because you can mess things up in a second.
Added some cups with water for extra humidity. During early veggin the seedlings need high humidity ( ~60% ).
Also you can add some DIY CO2 generators. Check Youtube!

kngpedr - subd, good luck bro
past times - looks good man, don't be afraid to get those lights right on top of the plant (within a few centemeters). the closer the better. Then you'll really see how much they love the light and will keep them from getting too tall.

Day 11 - Extra humidity BUT not too much !
I bought a humidifier for 50 USD but I did a mistake. I used the tem/hum monitor outside the box thinking that the IN/OUT sensor will deal also with the humidity. NO , using the cable sensor you only get the temperature.
You need to place the device inside your grow box/ room to get the real numbers.
Also during the night for few days I left my humidifier ON and again I think it was a mistake. I got one plant ( check the second pic ) with twisted/curled leaves and I think the reason was high humidity. You need to make sure the average hum. is around ~50-60% and the temp is ~25-30 Celsius degrees.
I added a DIY CO2 generator using a 2L soda bottle, sugar and yeast. I hope it will help them to grow nice.
I used a pulverizer to water them but I think this is not enough. Give them plenty of water when you think the soil is almost dry. Don't use nutes on them in the first 2 weeks, the soil nutrients are enough for them.
Make sure the pots have some holes in the bottom for the water drainage.
Any other suggestions/corrections are welcomed. Thank you guys and happy growing :)

Defuzed - I have a plant similar age to yours, I've got a 20w cfl, 30w cfl and a 12w cfl, and I'm 3rd week in and it's going good.. I was thinking about keeping CFL's until I start flowing then I'll switch to 250w HPS/250W CFL. I'll keep following this! Good luck!
 

weed.senior

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Hey guys :)
I'm re-ading some pics which were deleted.

My first germination :)
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Seeding - Day 2
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Day 3 - new home ( cat's place )
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Day 6 - Aiming for the light :)
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Day 11 into vegetation - more leaves :)
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Transplanting - Day 19
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25 days into vegetation ( the plants are growing FAST )
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30 days into vegetation. my first lady shows up ( I think these are autoflowering strains ) :)
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Today ( 20 March ) I noticed the first white hairs on a plant :) I made a mistake when I transplanted the plants. The strain label were messed up so I think the plants which show sex for the first time are the Short Rider autoflowering.

It's funny to see all the pics in a single forum post. I'm happy that all my plants are alive and doing well. Spring is comming also in Romania. Happy day :)
Any suggestions are welcome. Cheers guys !
 

weed.senior

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Today I put back the fan towards my cooltube at my plant's level. The humidifier is also pointing to the cooltube.
I get lower temps ( ~27C - 80F ) and better humidity ( 45% ) since my plants are veggin in 31 day.
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Question : One of the strains is autoflowering and I think the 2 plants are starting to flower. I should keep the humidity in future under 40% for them ?
Any other ideas & suggestions are welcomed !
 

weed.senior

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Day 32 - Today I watered my plants. I notice one plants is kind of droopy and sad. Hopefully she'll be better in few days.
I think two of the plants start flowering rite ? I guess they are the Short Riders autoflowering strains ( I messed up the strains labels when transplanting )
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Any observations or thoughts please let me know. Cheers!
 

weed.senior

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Today I watered my plants with tap water for the first time. I used only water with no ferts just to clean a lil bit the soil. Next time I'll use ferts again with the same ratio. I'll not use the humidifier in my grow room since 2 plants started the flowering. I can wait the moment when the other 2 plants will start flowering so I can switch to HPS lamp ( 600w ).
So day 37, my plants are doing fine, no issues at all.

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I think in ~30 days I can harvest the autoflowering strains what do you think ? Is it possible ?
 

weed.senior

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How big is that grow room/ box? Looking good
It's a very small grow room which could be extended if needed. Right now it's 60cm/60cm and its height is 2m.
The 4 plants fit quite well in it until now. All 4 are happy and healthy. In the last 2 days I noticed a boom in their growth after I used the clean tap water funny :)
 

weed.senior

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These are my 4 plants ( day41 ). I think I need to repot them soon. What do you think guys ?
The second plant has some nice buds ( autoflowering strain - short rider ), the first one is a bit shy :)
The other 2 are the Aurora Indica strain with nice and large leaves.
 

weed.senior

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My plants are doing well. Not a single problem with them. I'm using BioBizz fertilizer ( Boom & Grow ). I repoted the Aurora Indicas in bigger pots.
Didn't under/over watered a single time ( I think :) ).
Still using 400W MH lamp and I will use the 600W HPS later. The Aurora Indica plants are getting bigger and bigger, I bend them at 45 degrees and I hope to get them bushy and not to tall.
I'll keep you posted!
 

djlifeline

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I would wack that hps in now matey ;) looks great. I'm a big fan of bio bizz all mix soil With there bloom and grow nuts
 

Gface

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I'm curious how your Nirvana Short Rider pans out. I just cut mine down a couple of weeks ago..looked alot like yours but a bit bigger. Stank like a dead skunk! I'm starting to think I cut it down too early (kind of weak smoke) Nirvana claims done in 8 weeks, I went 11, trichs were all cloudy and a few amber. Looking forward to seeing how yours turn out, still have some beans left and not sure I want to put in the time if the final product is crappy.
 

weed.senior

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I would wack that hps in now matey ;) looks great. I'm a big fan of bio bizz all mix soil With there bloom and grow nuts
I will wait maybe one week or so. I have still plenty of room for 2 bushy plants. I waited like 2 months, I'll harvest soon the 2xShortRider so I'll give Auroras Indicas plenty time to veg. No hurry.

I'm curious how your Nirvana Short Rider pans out. I just cut mine down a couple of weeks ago..looked alot like yours but a bit bigger. Stank like a dead skunk! I'm starting to think I cut it down too early (kind of weak smoke) Nirvana claims done in 8 weeks, I went 11, trichs were all cloudy and a few amber. Looking forward to seeing how yours turn out, still have some beans left and not sure I want to put in the time if the final product is crappy.
You might have harvested it lil bit early. I tried a sample aswell and indeed seemed weak also to me ( I'm not a heavy smoker, don't do tabacco so I should be more sensitive right ? ). I just ordered my 30x magnifying lens and I'll check it out in 2-3 days. I will post some pics aswell right now.
 

weed.senior

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Pic 1 is the place from where I took the sample. Pic 2 is one of my Short Rider . Pic 3, small sample :) The smoke was weak. Maybe I should wait a week or more. I just ordered a 30x jewelry lens.
The last pic is my day 66 closet. The 2xAurora Indicas are still bended ( 45 degrees ). I hope to get nice bushy plants. How much do you think I should keep them in veg state for the optimum results ?
Cheers guys !
 

Houndag

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You look like you're a ways a way on that short rider. The buds should start to fatten up soon if you let it go. I'd wait until the hairs turn red a droop a little and the main leaves start dying off. I cut mine when the trichs were 50% brown. I'm ripped on 1 hit from a bowl and it's even better in my Dominizer vaporaizer. If you can I'd also LST it like crazy. Looks like you on your way to a good crop. Good job.
 

Houndag

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I'm curious how your Nirvana Short Rider pans out. I just cut mine down a couple of weeks ago..looked alot like yours but a bit bigger. Stank like a dead skunk! I'm starting to think I cut it down too early (kind of weak smoke) Nirvana claims done in 8 weeks, I went 11, trichs were all cloudy and a few amber. Looking forward to seeing how yours turn out, still have some beans left and not sure I want to put in the time if the final product is crappy.
Sounds like you cut them down early. Another two or three weeks will probably do it for the other seeds.
 

weed.senior

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You look like you're a ways a way on that short rider. The buds should start to fatten up soon if you let it go. I'd wait until the hairs turn red a droop a little and the main leaves start dying off. I cut mine when the trichs were 50% brown. I'm ripped on 1 hit from a bowl and it's even better in my Dominizer vaporaizer. If you can I'd also LST it like crazy. Looks like you on your way to a good crop. Good job.
I'll wait, I'm not in a hurry at all. I hope to get a good crop with the short riders. I'm thinking also to buy a good vaporizer. I'll keep you posted guys, with the news.
 
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