My first class with the golden teacher

Koh samoi!

^ I put some ksss spores on a plate earlier today...... hopefully it will be clean unlike the last new cube syringe I tried, it was labeled B+ but only grew trich

i will for sure look into that strain. i may also go with the GT's again just for ease of growth

I dont know that it is much/ any harder than GT it is still a cube. Whats your opnion TC? I know you have grown this variety.

Im going to knock up a couple containers with a (multigenetic) plate that was started from GT mushroom tissue, from my tray and see how it works

I didn't have the SS variety, just the classic KS, but mine were extremely easy to grow. They are currently still my favorite mushrooms I've grown or eaten, and have taught me the most in life. I also really liked a strain I grew called Ereal, I was told by the fellow I got the print from that they were supposed to be a russian strain. I've never seen them for sale or writen up about.

The KS will educate you!!!!!!

From my understanding the KSSS is only supposed to be even better then the classic. I would by all means suggest trying it! I think Java (or maybe it was canndo) has grown them too, but I can't remember maybe he'll chime in.

KSSS are a more stabilized strain, derived from the standard KS.

I have grown them, but did not eat them. They are often very
short, squat fatties, and they can be hard to print as a result.

I have heard them referred to as stronger than many strains.

....why isn't any growing the dick-of-death, PE? (or PEU or APE?)

If you want a strong cube, there is no stronger than I know of.

If you guys worked with agar, I might just send out a round of prints myself.
(They are at least a year old and ought to be used...but I will
not vouch for them to go straight into a syringe...agar ought to be used)

Take care,

JD

Some day I'll open the door to agar in my life, but its gonna take more time I'm afraid. Should prints only be stored for a year or 2, my prints I've got are all over 4 years old now, but have never been opened since I made them. My KS printed very nicely, some were shorter, but all the caps opened well, and dropped very dark prints for me. They weren't real large prints, only about an inch or so a piece, but more then enough spores for good syringes (if they are clean). I wanted to grow the PE but at the time couldn't get spores or prints for it.The guy I got my first prints from that got me started (sent me KS, south americans, Ereal, and Burmas) even had the PE, but he couldn't get his to print and lived to far away for me to get an LC from him. I love the KS, and the Ereals for the fast growth, ease of growth and printing, and the trips were always fantastic , the SA's had a great visual trip but didn't yield well or grow as good. The burmas were almost a complete flop, I got enough off them for like 2 trips and they weren't anything special.

Javadog said:

KSSS are a more stabilized strain, derived from the standard KS.

I have grown them, but did not eat them. They are often very
short, squat fatties, and they can be hard to print as a result.

I have heard them referred to as stronger than many strains.

....why isn't any growing the dick-of-death, PE? (or PEU or APE?)

If you want a strong cube, there is no stronger than I know of.

If you guys worked with agar, I might just send out a round of prints myself.
(They are at least a year old and ought to be used...but I will
not vouch for them to go straight into a syringe...agar ought to be used)

Take care,

JD

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I plan to grow the penis envy(aka PE) in the very near future now that I have the basics down, almost got them when I ordered my spores in the first place.

I have also been looking at getting into the agar side of things as well and would love to take you up on your offer of a print or two to get started.

I'll prob give PE a shot when im more confident with my ability to change/ hold fruiting conditions, as they are a bit more picky correct? I am using an automated terrarium and I would like to learn to dial in the humidity and also see if I have or get adequate FAE I had some fuzzy bases on my tray last time. The FA goes in via aquarium pump.
But JD I do happen to do some work on agar

Well, I will have to set something aside. I have 1000s of prints, as I do
not deal, trip only when conditions warrant, and so have always had waaaay
more than I know what to do with.

I will add TD and MJG to the list. This will likely be a one-time thing, as I am
getting hammered IRL. :^/ The cost of a stamp is negligible, and I am happy to share.

JD

P.S. PE is hard only because it is slow. This is also a good theory as to why they
are stronger, and they are. They do not drop spores so they can be hard to share.

Javadog said:

Well, I will have to set something aside. I have 1000s of prints, as I do
not deal, trip only when conditions warrant, and so have always had waaaay
more than I know what to do with.

I will add TD and MJG to the list. This will likely be a one-time thing, as I am
getting hammered IRL. :^/ The cost of a stamp is negligible, and I am happy to share.

JD

P.S. PE is hard only because it is slow. This is also a good theory as to why they
are stronger, and they are. They do not drop spores so they can be hard to share.

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Thinking after this crop I will be use to slow! These things seem to be taking forever to mature! Lmao. Im guesing the PES Hawaiian strain I am growing is a derivative of the PE?

No, PESH, and PESA, both grow like typical cubes....PE is even slower.

Slow is the real challenge. All it takes is having to maintain consistent
fruiting conditions for long periods of time to make a breed/strain difficult
to fruit.

This is the principal reason that the mexicanae can be difficult, and Semperviva, etc.

Take care,

JD

P.S. TD, the only PE prints that I ever got were from PE6...and that was only
from those fruits that showed that hybrid's Texan heritage. (look up PE6 for a read)

Javadog said:

No, PESH, and PESA, both grow like typical cubes....PE is even slower.

Slow is the real challenge. All it takes is having to maintain consistent
fruiting conditions for long periods of time to make a breed/strain difficult
to fruit.

This is the principal reason that the mexicanae can be difficult, and Semperviva, etc.

Take care,

JD

P.S. TD, the only PE prints that I ever got were from PE6...and that was only
from those fruits that showed that hybrid's Texan heritage. (look up PE6 for a read)

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Interesting, getting ready to go see if I can pick a handful of pins to give em a try. I look forward to the challenge and will for sure be coming to you for advice on how to start my agar.

Well, I am afraid that I will not be much help with the potential
stepping stones into agar work.

I went right for the Light Sabre: A Laminar Flow Hood

I know that people have successfully poured sleeves of petris
using just a Still Air Box....but I am betting that I'd catch contams. :0)

A good hood can cost $400 to make and half again that to buy,
but get one and you can do anything anywhere. (I work in the
corner of a dusty garage)

I will certainly assist where I can.

JD

I worked for years with a glove box but..... I wouldn't give my hood up for anything.

I used one as well, for a while, but had my hood before I moved to agar.

They are fine for syringe making, or noc'ing up jars too.

I would even noc a dish. ....it is pouring a stack of 25 (well two, 12 and 13)
that would likely be very hard.

You are the official SAB-POC. :0)

JD

Thanks JD I would certainly appreciate a print no matter the variant... or species.

MJG I use a glove box and grain water agar, which is the liquid that grains have hung out in as they hydrate/ prep with agar agar. There is also an easy grocery store tek: http://www.shroomery.org/9427/Grocery-Store-Agar-Tek IME the grain water mix is better. I also use quarter pint jelly jars rather than petri dishes (I didnt want to order anything). Then once you have something that you like on agar water suspension transfers/ inoculations are easy and do not need to be done in a glove box IME anyway.

and when you cut up a plate and transfer it to a jar(s) the colonization happens quickly

Well, TD, feel free to remind me if I have not PMed you within a couple
of weeks time frame....that ought to be long enough for me to get down
to the garage to rummage through the spore bank. :0)

and when you cut up a plate and transfer it to a jar(s) the colonization happens quickly

This is very true: no spore germination, or fungal sex, to wait for.

JD

hehehe sounds good big ups JD

technical dan said:

Thanks JD I would certainly appreciate a print no matter the variant... or species.

MJG I use a glove box and grain water agar, which is the liquid that grains have hung out in as they hydrate/ prep with agar agar. There is also an easy grocery store tek: http://www.shroomery.org/9427/Grocery-Store-Agar-Tek IME the grain water mix is better. I also use quarter pint jelly jars rather than petri dishes (I didnt want to order anything). Then once you have something that you like on agar water suspension transfers/ inoculations are easy and do not need to be done in a glove box IME anyway.

and when you cut up a plate and transfer it to a jar(s) the colonization happens quickly

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Sounds so much simpler!