My first class with the golden teacher

I forgot something - in one case you are very right - flucuations in temperature will create condensation - you don't want condensation as it will create not only a trap for unwanted spores and microbes but create a steady stream of contaminated droplets into your grow.

The condensation is bad, and I was also doing my best to ensure maximum colonization speeds. I was attempting to do the whole process from making syringes to harvesting fruits in under 30 days from the start. So i wanted the environment to be as perfect as I could get it. The totes I think cost me 3-5 bucks each and the fish tank heater I think was about 10 so very inexpensive and extremely effective. I kept my light outside my fruiting chamber as well to prevent it from messing with my temps inside much. If it did get below 70 in the chamber I could lower the light to warm it up a bit but normally it was about 3 feet above it just to provide enough.

I am trying to get people to realize that the whole thing doesn't cost much. One doesn't REALLY need a glove box or a LAFH (the hood helps a lot though and you can get one for about 500 bucks). They don't need a fruiting chamber, I have grown mushrooms in jars with only a ziplock baggie as "fruiting chamber". Light can be abient. In short, all you really need for equipment is a case of jars, a pressure cooker and a mister.

great convorsation guys keeep it up!!

i love this.....people discussing and nod being asshats!!!

i am doing a incubator because i have a junk mini fridge and it cost me like 30 bucks...cant hurt right?

i totally agree with cando its not necesarry but im kinda a DIY type and i just happen to have this mini frdge laying around....if i didnt have it i wouldnt be doing this.

i have started my glove box. sealant needs to vur overnight so i went home.

will be cleaning this mini fridge tomorow completly sanitizing every bit. Q tips will be used!!

collecting data and wil update pics soon. stil have a few days before spores get here

Hey Matt, I think I'll join you on this shroomy journey of yours, thinking of ordering some spores and try my hand at growing some yummy shrooms.

hell you guys are making me want to order a new strain so i can have a fresh go along with you guys

Poly I was thinking about growing shrooms since high school haha but never actually got around to grow any..this time around it seems like a perfect time and opportunity. Will try to do a cake or two and see how it go's.

aCiDjEsUs said:

Poly I was thinking about growing shrooms since high school haha but never actually got around to grow any..this time around it seems like a perfect time and opportunity. Will try to do a cake or two and see how it go's.

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no cakes do 2 small beds of popcorn, cased with verm, or hell, get the grow bags off the net and fruit straight from the bag. with one print or syringe of spores you could produce any amount of mushrooms you want, thats really up to you, but, the idea is to you worth for your time.

polyarcturus said:

no cakes do 2 small beds of popcorn, cased with verm, or hell, get the grow bags off the net and fruit straight from the bag. with one print or syringe of spores you could produce any amount of mushrooms you want, thats really up to you, but, the idea is to you worth for your time.

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Understood. Thank you, yeah I'll just have to follow what was said in this thread, I know Conndo mention popcorn in the first page of this thread so I'll just have to read more into it.
Will I get away with out having a PC?

aCiDjEsUs said:

Understood. Thank you, yeah I'll just have to follow what was said in this thread, I know Conndo mention popcorn in the first page of this thread so I'll just have to read more into it.
Will I get away with out having a PC?

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you wont get far growing mushrooms without a PC, yeah sure i could guide you a thousand ways to grow with out one... but that would be foolish. i would go with bags from the net this round and grab a PC in the future if you want to continue things, its just the most efficient way of doing things, doesnt cost that much either.

polyarcturus said:

you wont get far growing mushrooms without a PC, yeah sure i could guide you a thousand ways to grow with out one... but that would be foolish. i would go with bags from the net this round and grab a PC in the future if you want to continue things, its just the most efficient way of doing things, doesnt cost that much either.

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Poly Thank you sir, got to read more into it and you're saying bags? not really understanding that.

yeah lots of places online will sell sterile bags of substrate, you just inject some spore solutions, let them incubate, cut the top off the bag throw some verm or potting soil on top for a casing(pasteurized of course) and throw it in a high humidity ambient light area to fruit.

buying bags online is really effceint if you dont plan on growing a lot and dont want to fully invest, hell you could work with stuff ordered online only if you wanted to the only reason to make your own substrate is its more cost effcient, pressure cooker will pay for itself in one run, unlike some of these LED lights out there.

The first mushroom kit I grew I ordered right off the pages of hightimes. That add about half way through everyone for mushroom grow kits has very discreet billing and shipping. The kit grew great and I was able to get 3 flushes with zero problems.

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If you havn't started the incubator yet I think I can offer you another great option man. Very simple, very cheap and stable. Get 2 rubber maid totes whatever size you want put water in one with a fish tank heater in it, and set the other tote inside the first. The water will keep the top tote a very stable and perfect temp. I usually put a light blanket over the top of the lid to help hold in the warmth. I had to add a little water ever month or so but other then that it kept a perfect 82 degrees with little to no adjustment once I got it set. Just another thought for ya man it sounded like you were getting started on something already though.

I'm definitely building a glove box the next time around. I had good success without one, but I think it would help in the long run. Also the next time I set up I want it to be a bit more "correct" like a semi lab set up. Have an air scubber in the room and proper temp control, temps are what finished me last time, once summer started to hit I had no way to deal with the heat.

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yes, I am the same way. if there is something to improve my conditions i will improve them. a incubator seems like a worthwhile investment. will cost me about 2-3 hours of time and around 25 bucks. the thermostat was 20 bucks alone. then a light bulb and a socket and i have everything else on hand. seems like it will be worth it in the long run, may not be necessary but like i said earlier it really cant hurt. if anything it is going to make my setup just that much better.

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Incubator? why? your mycelium will grow in a huge range of temperatures from the low 70's to the high 80's.

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I had a fridge on hand, 25 bucks and its made. personally i think its worth the small investment to be able to control my temps? you dont?

aCiDjEsUs said:

Hey Matt, I think I'll join you on this shroomy journey of yours, thinking of ordering some spores and try my hand at growing some yummy shrooms.

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hahaha, welcome aboard this ride m8, cant be a bystander huh? gotta get your hands dirty!! glad your going to give it a try. you going to journal it here or make another thread? your welcome to journal it here if you wish.

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hell you guys are making me want to order a new strain so i can have a fresh go along with you guys

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bette get to work cleaning up them contamed cakes and going a full clean glad to have you along too, this should be an epic shroomery experience with 2 of my good cannabis horticulturist friends joing in.

aCiDjEsUs said:

Understood. Thank you, yeah I'll just have to follow what was said in this thread, I know Conndo mention popcorn in the first page of this thread so I'll just have to read more into it.
Will I get away with out having a PC?

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Acid you can get a 6 quart PC for around 32 bucks, the 8 quart one is 43bucks at wall mart...definatly going to be a worthwhile investment and PC's have other uses besides mycology. people actaully cook in them!!

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Poly Thank you sir, got to read more into it and you're saying bags? not really understanding that.

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http://www.midwestgrowkits.com/spawn-bags.html

theres a site i found with a quick google search. you may want to wait for someone to give a known trusted site as i dont know this site and have never ordered from them.

heres a pic of my incomplete glove box

RetiredMatthebrute said:

yes, I am the same way. if there is something to improve my conditions i will improve them. a incubator seems like a worthwhile investment. will cost me about 2-3 hours of time and around 25 bucks. the thermostat was 20 bucks alone. then a light bulb and a socket and i have everything else on hand. seems like it will be worth it in the long run, may not be necessary but like i said earlier it really cant hurt. if anything it is going to make my setup just that much better.



I had a fridge on hand, 25 bucks and its made. personally i think its worth the small investment to be able to control my temps? you dont?



hahaha, welcome aboard this ride m8, cant be a bystander huh? gotta get your hands dirty!! glad your going to give it a try. you going to journal it here or make another thread? your welcome to journal it here if you wish.



bette get to work cleaning up them contamed cakes and going a full clean glad to have you along too, this should be an epic shroomery experience with 2 of my good cannabis horticulturist friends joing in.



Acid you can get a 6 quart PC for around 32 bucks, the 8 quart one is 43bucks at wall mart...definatly going to be a worthwhile investment and PC's have other uses besides mycology. people actaully cook in them!!



http://www.midwestgrowkits.com/spawn-bags.html

theres a site i found with a quick google search. you may want to wait for someone to give a known trusted site as i dont know this site and have never ordered from them.

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Matt you know it You can't have all the fun by your self

I'll drive around tomorrow and see if I can pick up a PC at some second hand store like Salvation Army, if I wont be able to find a used one I'll just pick a new one.

If you let me I might be just popping some pictures on you thread here, instead of starting a whole new thread.

I'll order some spores today or tomorrow and I'll go from there.

This whole weekend I spend on reading up on growing shrooms, watched few videos including one that you posted on first page of this thread, and I think I got a good idea of how this all works.

of course your allowed to post pics on my thread. hit me up if you need help building a list of shit to get.

as far as the pressure cooker goes make sure you inspect the rubber seal if your buying used. if its dried out at all dont buy it. The reason i suggest just buying new is it will last much longer than a used one and it is much safer. you have kids and shit running around and the last think you need is the lid blowing off of a superheated pressure cooker and potentially burning yourself or someone in the house. they can be dangerous so just buy wisely and dont grab the cheapest pos you find. remember that items at second hand stores dont always make it there because someone needed money, alot of shit people sell to them places is junk that "looks" like its in ok condition.

be safe man.

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of course your allowed to post pics on my thread. hit me up if you need help building a list of shit to get.

as far as the pressure cooker goes make sure you inspect the rubber seal if your buying used. if its dried out at all dont buy it. The reason i suggest just buying new is it will last much longer than a used one and it is much safer. you have kids and shit running around and the last think you need is the lid blowing off of a superheated pressure cooker and potentially burning yourself or someone in the house. they can be dangerous so just buy wisely and dont grab the cheapest pos you find. remember that items at second hand stores dont always make it there because someone needed money, alot of shit people sell to them places is junk that "looks" like its in ok condition.

be safe man.

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Thank you Matt, shit I was thinking about the same thing if I buy a used PC if it going to be fit for operation, and like you said I got a 9y/o running around lol...
Fuck it I'll just stop by kmart or walmart today and see what they got in stock and just get a brand new one instead of worrying if it's going to blow up or not.

yeah i did the same thing, i looked around for a PC at the used stores, found one for 15 bucks but the rubber seal was all dry. so i went ahead and spent the money on a brand new one. peace of mind when it comes to safety of yourself and family is priceless. either way brand new or not though i wouldnt let the kid anywhere near the kitchen when your doing your PCing. steam flies out of them things like crazy and even normal operation can be a burn hazzard. i have a 9yo as well in the house so i know they arent really young and they know more than you think so i think you will be fine. but again safety first.

bringing your kid to the ER for 2nd degree burns......"so what happened"

"well i was cooking my substrate for my mushroom project" LOL