My Bombastic Aerogarden Closet Fungasm/Growjournal

lurkmaster

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LMAO! Im fuckin rollin overhere... Im baked and just had a visual.

LOL Oh shit!!! I gotta go pick up my girl from work.... these fuckin threads!!
Yea man I've been late to class so many times because I was busy on RIU and lost track of time.

:eyesmoke:

and just putting this here because it got dropped off last page...


i really dont know what to do. im flushing with PHed water. have been for at least 24 hrs now. the PH still seems to be dropping. i added some up. they are getting worse. ill keep posting pics untill i figure it out, or they kick the bucket. for some reason my stupid camera wont focus so sometimes they dont look as bad as they actually are. the spots are spreading and starting to crispify leaves left and right. sigh. FRUSTRATING!




this was yesterday afternoon. the leaves at the top that are still green arent anymore.




its hard to tell but all the leaves are spotting faintly.


wtf



all the leaves on the bottom look like this now.


i really cant figure this out. i dont know what else to try. im hoping that someone can help diagnose before they die.


I don't think its killing your plant, but that really doesn't look like any of the general nutrient deficiency/temp/pH problems.

What is your humidity at?

You might want to try foliar feeding on a plant or two to see if that gets rid of the crispyness.

Do I have Bad Room Syndrome?

Contributed by: snoofer
Thanks to: bhangman
Submitted: January 15th, 2005

The cause of inexplicable poor plant health and vigour may be a result of BRS.

Indoor air quality is lower than fresh outside air. Homes are filled with materials designed to resist fading, abrasion and time. Many of these materials emit toxic vapours at a low to very low concentration into the air.

Fresh paint / lead paint or solder / sealer, old or new carpet, flooring and other room fixtures may emit toxic vapours. These vapours are harmful to both plants and humans.

Newly installed flooring (especially fresh carpet) or wall panelling will often emit strong vapours for several weeks. The grower should vent the room thoroughly, remove the problem, or remove the plants.

(bhangman) The heat from HID lighting can cause linoleum to emit vapours

Grow rooms should (ideally) have most furniture and flooring removed prior to setting up. Inspect the corners of the room and closets for green or black mold. Occassionally, mold and mildew exists in the ducting. If possible, seal the central heating ducts.

Rooms with stagnant air are the most susceptible. Vapours will build up during 'lights off' when ventilation is low or off. Continuous or periodic ventilation will reduce the fumes considerably.

Other potential problems include: using 'non-fish-safe' silicone, pvc in irrigation, lead solder in old home plumbing, rotting insulation / asbestos, and fusarium wilt.

Note: given the numer of possible causes of poor plant health, growers should check all factors throughly. Pre-testing a room with houseplants might be a good precaution.
The only other thing it could possibly be is Mg def.

Your roots are definitely tangled so you can't isolate one plant and try to epsom salt it to see if that fixes it.

The pH dropping might be a sign, if they have nothing but pH'd water.

Definitely make a post in the sick plant forum and see if someone can shine some light on this.
 

MrAlex

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Im back... just finished readin the thread... IDK???? Good Luck.. Are the budz still growin or are they dryin up too??
 

cyberneticsteersman

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Hmmm, could you explain your co2 set up?
Only thing I could think of that hasnt already been said is not enough oxygen to the roots. Excess CO2 could effect the pH of your water too. If it was extreme!
 

sirsativa

Active Member
I don't think its killing your plant, but that really doesn't look like any of the general nutrient deficiency/temp/pH problems.

What is your humidity at?

You might want to try foliar feeding on a plant or two to see if that gets rid of the crispyness.

The only other thing it could possibly be is Mg def.

Your roots are definitely tangled so you can't isolate one plant and try to epsom salt it to see if that fixes it.

The pH dropping might be a sign, if they have nothing but pH'd water.

Definitely make a post in the sick plant forum and see if someone can shine some light on this.
i have no idea what the humidity is. i dont have a hygrometer :(
i was definitly gunna try and folair feed. before adding any nutes to the res (im gunna wait another couple days till the hygrowzyme gets here) to help them out.

Im back... just finished readin the thread... IDK???? Good Luck.. Are the budz still growin or are they dryin up too??
the buds still seem alright. although all the new leaves comin out of them have developed the evil pox too.

Hmmm, could you explain your co2 set up?
Only thing I could think of that hasnt already been said is not enough oxygen to the roots. Excess CO2 could effect the pH of your water too. If it was extreme!
i abandoned my original CO2 set up long ago. they get fresh air during the day. shut up at night.

[quote="SICC";2283016]im pretty sure its a magnesium deficiency, but the link i use for plant problems wont work[/quote]
so how should i solve this???


thanks for the advice doods. im still tryin to have faith they'll pull through.:leaf:

 

"SICC"

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Manganese (Mn) Micronutrient and Immobile Element


Manganese Helps enzymes break down for chlorophyll and photosynthesis production, as well as it works with plant enzymes to reduce nitrates before producing proteins.

Having plants that are deficient in manganese can turn the young leaves into spotted (mottled) yellow and or brown areas on young leaves. Dead (Necrotic) yellow spots form on top leaves, while the lower older leaves will or may have gray specks and or spots. Symptoms can include yellowing of leaves while the leaf veins can stay green. Can also produce a chequered effect. As the plant gets newer growths the plant will seem to grow away from the problem, that’s why the younger leaves may be unaffected. On the top of the leaves, brown spots can appear. While the severe areas of the leaves turn brown and wither. Parts Affected by a Manganese deficiency are: Young leaves.


Too much Manganese in the soil will cause an iron deficiency. The blotchy leaf tissue is caused by not enough chlorophyll synthesis. Your plants will seem to have very weak vigor caused by the excessive amount of manganese.

Problems with Manganese being locked out by PH troubles

Soil ph of over 6.5, High iron soils, Low nitrogen Soils, Dry weather
and compacted soil.


Soil

Manganese gets locked out of soil growing at ph levels of 2.0-5.0
Manganese is absorbed best in soil at a ph level of 5.5-6.5 (Wouldn’t recommend having a soil ph of over 7.0 in soil) anything out of the ranges listed will contribute to a Manganese Deficiency.


Hydro and Soil less Mediums

Manganese gets locked out of Hydro and Soil less Mediums at ph levels of 2.0-4.5
Manganese is absorbed best in Hydro and Soil less Mediums at ph levels of 5.0-5.6 (Wouldn’t recommend having a ph over 6.5 in hydro and soil less mediums.) Best range for hydro and soil less mediums is 5.0 to 6.0. Anything out of the ranges listed will contribute to a manganese deficiency.

Solution to fixing a Manganese deficiency
Foliar feed with any chemical fertilizer containing Mn., or mix with water and water your plants with it. Any Chemical/Organic nutrients that have Manganese in them will fix a Manganese deficiency. (Only mixing at ½ strength when using chemical nutrients or it will cause nutrient burn!) Other nutrients that have Manganese in them are: Manganese chelate, Manganese carbonate, Manganese chloride, Manganese dioxide, Manganese oxide, Manganese sulfate, which are all fast absorption. Garden Manure, Greenssand are both good sources of manganese and are medium/ slow absorption.

Now if you added to much chemical nutrients and or organics,( which is hard to burn your plants when using organics) You need to Flush the soil with plain water. You need to use 2 times as much water as the size of the pot, for example: If you have a 5 gallon pot and need to flush it, you need to use 10 gallons of water to rinse out the soil good enough to get rid of excessive nutrients.


Picture 1 shows a manganese deficiency in flowering.

 

lurkmaster

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I think you can soak the roots in epsom salt if its magnesium, double check some of the sick plant sticky's though I'm not 100%.

You can pick up a thermostat/humidity monitor for $8 at walmart, definitely worth picking up IMO. It also shows high and low humidity/temp for 24 hour period which is awesome, you can see how hot it really got without having to be there when its that hot.

If its not manganese def, its magnesium, idk which one they both sound pretty damn similar.
 

MrAlex

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holy shit.... this is complicated.. lol especially when im blasted...

Im fuckin scared something like that is going to happen to me soon... Ive gone the whole grow so far with bright green leaves and I dont even have a PH meter... just the tester shit from the petshop... i think im just gettin lucky so far.

Good luck dude.... what websites do you guys go to when searxching for all of these nutrients.. just in caase i gotta stat orderin shit.. lol
 

sirsativa

Active Member
ok so i got my ppm meter today and the ph has finally stabilized. i changed out my res with new nutes and water. im at around 607 ppms right now. 1 tsp grow big, 1 tbsp big bloom and 1/2 tsp tiger bloom. im foliar feeding with 2 tsp cal mag, 1/2 tsp grow big (to a gallon, at around 500 ppms) to try and correct their calcium/magnesium def. they seem to be doing better. i trimmed all the dead leaves today too. digi ph, hygrozyme, digi thermometer /hygrometer and clearex all on the way. im already excited about the next grow! pics soon. :leaf:
 

sirsativa

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holy shit... how much did you spend on all that shit?
less than $75. credit is dank. as are e bay and google. you can find deals if you hunt around. i spent a bit more than i should have on the ph meter ($27) but it can constantly monitor and display. i got the cal mag and some other random stuff at the grow shop (which is literally 6 blocks away from my house. i <3 pdx.
 

sirsativa

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alright so. the plants are at the end of their life. i learned a lot of good lessons (and bought a lot of shit) so next grow will be much better. im flushing with plain H2O for the next 2 weeks and choppin them. here a few pics.













i still am not really sure of the cause of all the leaf spotting. hopefully next grow will be good from the beg to end!
 

purpdaddy

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alright so. the plants are at the end of their life. i learned a lot of good lessons (and bought a lot of shit) so next grow will be much better. im flushing with plain H2O for the next 2 weeks and choppin them. here a few pics.













i still am not really sure of the cause of all the leaf spotting. hopefully next grow will be good from the beg to end!
man those are sum big beautiful ass colas man!especially for the AG!!Outstanding job!
 

sirsativa

Active Member
Glad to see that whatever the problem was didn't ruin everything and kill your plants.
hell yea dude. i think it was a combo of me fukin up the nutes and ph issues. next time will be much better!

yummy nugs...... congrats bro !!
thanks man! i cant wait till they are cured!

man those are sum big beautiful ass colas man!especially for the AG!!Outstanding job!
thanks dude! the AG is fuckin awesome! easy as pie at least.
 
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