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hello there..
please give me some comment about my closet..

i have done this closet about 2 days.. here it is
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im using 2 42w lamp for each plant.. and i set up the time 18/5..
should i add more lamp ?? how many watt lamp if do i should have add more ??..
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and this is my lamp box at the back, this lamps is match vor veg ?
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and how about fertilizer should i have give




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hei every body, today i have buy a new clf lamps its 65 watt, and the lummens is 4200, warm light. and i buy a 26 watt with 1200 lumens.. and i count it total 5400 lumens.. is that right ?..

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and then i have modified the position of the lamp like these.. and i combinating the lamp with 2 42watt with 2700 lumens for each bulb, and 1 65watt with 4700 lumens, so total fot the lumens is 10100 lumens in my cabinet.. and i set the tomer for 18/6

and i positioning like these
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and then i put it at side of the cabinet like these
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my question is :

1. my configuration is right or no ? if no tell me where is the false..
2. what do you thing for the configuration of the lamp, 2x42 watt and 1 65 watt. or 1x42 watt, 1x25 watt, and 1x42watt ?
3. give me more clues about it..

thx
 
It's very neatly done,but is that foil you're using?It can cause hot spots,concentrating light in different areas unevenly, possibly resulting in burned leaves...Not that cfls really have intense light...but you want to either just paint the inside of your grow area a flat white or use mylar.
You'll eventually need to have cfls surrounding your plants if you intend to use them all through the grow, because they just don't have the same penetrating power as HID grow lights do.
You need cool white for veg, or 6500k lights.The warm whites should be used for flower,usually folks use 2700k warm whites.This is the color temperature..I believe lumens are just a measure of how intense the light is, so you don't really look at that.....you look for either a color temperature on the box, or look for "Cool white" for veg, which will be towards the bluer end of the spectrum, and "warm white" for flower, which is more red.So...cool for veg, warm for flower.The higher the color temperature, or "k", the bluer the light.
So, for now, get the proper lights for veg, and place them about three inches from the tops of your plants to prevent stretching. Think of getting some power strips and some y converters,because you will need a LOT of CFL's before it's all said and done.Here's an example of a setup with cfls.https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/64720-cfl-clamp-fixtures-costing-me.html Remember, you're going to want them on all sides of your plants as they grow, not just above them, because cfls simply don't penetrate very deeply into the plant's canopy.
 
Stoney McFried said:
It's very neatly done,but is that foil you're using?It can cause hot spots,concentrating light in different areas unevenly, possibly resulting in burned leaves...Not that cfls really have intense light...but you want to either just paint the inside of your grow area a flat white or use mylar.
You'll eventually need to have cfls surrounding your plants if you intend to use them all through the grow, because they just don't have the same penetrating power as HID grow lights do.
You need cool white for veg, or 6500k lights.The warm whites should be used for flower,usually folks use 2700k warm whites.This is the color temperature..I believe lumens are just a measure of how intense the light is, so you don't really look at that.....you look for either a color temperature on the box, or look for "Cool white" for veg, which will be towards the bluer end of the spectrum, and "warm white" for flower, which is more red.So...cool for veg, warm for flower.The higher the color temperature, or "k", the bluer the light.
So, for now, get the proper lights for veg, and place them about three inches from the tops of your plants to prevent stretching. Think of getting some power strips and some y converters,because you will need a LOT of CFL's before it's all said and done.Here's an example of a setup with cfls.https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/64720-cfl-clamp-fixtures-costing-me.html Remember, you're going to want them on all sides of your plants as they grow, not just above them, because cfls simply don't penetrate very deeply into the plant's canopy.
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yes, thats is foil, so i must remove the foil into white color ? right ?

so, i have buy a wrong lamp istn it ?
i have read in the 42 watt on the body of the lamp, that write 7500K and write infront of the bos "spring lamp" so it must be the true lamp right ?
and in the 65 watt lamp writes, 2700-6000 K.. so it must be true to right ?

so i used the 42 watt for veg, and the 65 watt for flowering right ??

oke i will put the ligt 3 inches above the plant,, and how aobut the time ? 18/6 its good ??
 
Get either mylar images.jpg or just paint the walls a flat white.You can get mylar camping blankets at walmart for 2 or 3 dollars each.Or use the shiny metallic wrapping paper with the silver on the back, that's mylar...you can even use the inside of old potato chip bags if they are made of mylar.The inside is silver.
These are what you're looking for for vegging your plant...6500k.jpg.. they will say daylight and/or 6500k on the package.Get the biggest ones you can, and get a lot,and put them all around your plants as they grow.The more light with cfl's, the better.Keep them about 3 inches from your plants. 18/6 is fine for veg.
When you're ready to flower, you want warm white bulbs...they'll say warm white, and/or 2700k2700k.jpg.For flower, you have 12 hours light and twelve hours darkness.
If you're still confused, here's what the warm white and cool white cfls look like side by side when they are lit.warmcool.jpg The two on the ends are cool white...see how they look kind of bluish white/Those are for veg.The one in the middle is warm white.That's usually used for flower.
whywhywhy said:
yes, thats is foil, so i must remove the foil into white color ?

so, i have buy a wrong lamp istn it ?

oke i will put the ligt 3 inches above the plant,, and how aobut the time ? 18/6 its good ??
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Stoney McFried said:
Get either mylar View attachment 325564 or just paint the walls a flat white.You can get mylar camping blankets at walmart for 2 or 3 dollars each.Or use the shiny metallic wrapping paper with the silver on the back, that's mylar...you can even use the inside of old potato chip bags if they are made of mylar.The inside is silver.
These are what you're looking for for vegging your plant...View attachment 325565.. they will say daylight and/or 6500k on the package.Get the biggest ones you can, and get a lot,and put them all around your plants as they grow.The more light with cfl's, the better.Keep them about 3 inches from your plants. 18/6 is fine for veg.
When you're ready to flower, you want warm white bulbs...they'll say warm white, and/or 2700kView attachment 325570.For flower, you have 12 hours light and twelve hours darkness.
If you're still confused, here's what the warm white and cool white cfls look like side by side when they are lit.View attachment 325573 The two on the ends are cool white...see how they look kind of bluish white/Those are for veg.The one in the middle is warm white.That's usually used for flower.
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oh god, thats all what i need, ur are really help me out..
thx guys..

so this all my lamps is true right ?..

ummm.. can i find this all stuff u have tell me at ACE hardware ? coz in indonesia have an ACE too.. so maybe i can get the best one..

thx guys, please keep me inform.. :bigjoint:
 
I'm sure you can find all that stuff at Ace hardware.
whywhywhy said:
oh god, thats all what i need, ur are really help me out..
thx guys..

so this all my lamps is true right ?..

ummm.. can i find this all stuff u have tell me at ACE hardware ? coz in indonesia have an ACE too.. so maybe i can get the best one..

thx guys, please keep me inform.. :bigjoint:
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Hot spots don't happen with CFLs and foil. You're thinking HID, or an oven or something, Stoney. :eyesmoke:

Foil is fine, use the shiny-side facing out. According to Wikipedia it's 88% reflective. White paint(the generic shit) is 20% less than that. You'd have to POWDER COAT in white to even get near aluminum's reflectance. It helps diffusion. You do not need diffusion with CFLs. If anything you could stand for some concentration of light. But as you have it set-up looks great. Though I'd move the light closer. Within 4-6 inches(for sprouts, they're fragile).
 
Yeah, I wasn't sure about the hotspots with cfls, that's why I commented on the weakness of the cfl's actual luminosity.(Personally, I noticed plenty of heat with my cfl's on my first grow,simply because of the sheer number that is needed.Of course, we're talking about light, though, so back to the subject.) Mylar provides a smoother surface,and is more reflective.From what I've read, it says it's 95 percent reflective. I also think it tends to tear less,and produces a more even distribution of light,and you need all the help you can get in that department with cfl's.But opinions vary,though the majority of growers on here recommend mylar or white paint.:peace:
TeaTreeOil said:
Hot spots don't happen with CFLs and foil. You're thinking HID, or an oven or something, Stoney. :eyesmoke:

Foil is fine, use the shiny-side facing out. According to Wikipedia it's 88% reflective. White paint(the generic shit) is 20% less than that. You'd have to POWDER COAT in white to even get near aluminum's reflectance. It helps diffusion. You do not need diffusion with CFLs. If anything you could stand for some concentration of light. But as you have it set-up looks great. Though I'd move the light closer. Within 4-6 inches(for sprouts, they're fragile).
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I say over a foot away, just paint it white. But for a *reflector*, aluminum is the popular choice. 99% of reflectors you buy will be pretty much solid(99.9%) aluminum. The rest are some crazy 'Germanized' aluminum(95% reflectance) or whatever. Cone reflectors aren't that great. My next experiment in lighting is going to be a 38" long 6" wide piece of plywood with aluminum foil glued to it and 2 cardboard 4" flanges at ~45 degrees.

I just need to drill some holes for dowel rods/power cords.

Was thinking of mounting four 42(about 2" gaps) watt bulbs on it. Two per dowel rod, parallel to the plywood, about 1 inch away from it.

Two attachments: me holding the aluminum foil covered reflector(38" x 11" from flange to flange), 7 feet away from the (23w cool white cfl) light in the middle of the room, and the cam 7' away on the other side(lets see white paint create such a shine!). And a potential 23w x 6 bulb design(30" without female sockets/etc). Brown dots = dowel rods.
 

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I think a couple of reasons aluminum is chosen is because it's cheap and lightweight.Yes, a polished piece of aluminum is also reflective.Could you imagine a cast iron reflector?:lol:
TeaTreeOil said:
I say over a foot away, just paint it white. But for a *reflector*, aluminum is the popular choice. 99% of reflectors you buy will be pretty much solid(99.9%) aluminum. The rest are some crazy 'Germanized' aluminum(95% reflectance) or whatever. Cone reflectors aren't that great. My next experiment in lighting is going to be a 38" long 6" wide piece of plywood with aluminum foil glued to it and 2 cardboard 4" flanges at ~45 degrees.

I just need to drill some holes for dowel rods/power cords.

Was thinking of mounting four 42(about 2" gaps) watt bulbs on it. Two per dowel rod, parallel to the plywood, about 1 inch away from it.

Two attachments: me holding the aluminum foil covered reflector(38" x 11" from flange to flange), 7 feet away from the (23w cool white cfl) light in the middle of the room, and the cam 7' away on the other side(lets see white paint create such a shine!). And a potential 23w x 6 bulb design(30" without female sockets/etc). Brown dots = dowel rods.
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hey guys..
today iv buy a new soil for my plants.. and iv buy the plant food too.. so here it is

so here for the pic of the soil iv buy, i dont have time for take a pic..

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this soil can used for growing my plants ??
 
TeaTreeOil said:
Hot spots don't happen with CFLs and foil. You're thinking HID, or an oven or something, Stoney. :eyesmoke:

Foil is fine, use the shiny-side facing out. According to Wikipedia it's 88% reflective. White paint(the generic shit) is 20% less than that. You'd have to POWDER COAT in white to even get near aluminum's reflectance. It helps diffusion. You do not need diffusion with CFLs. If anything you could stand for some concentration of light. But as you have it set-up looks great. Though I'd move the light closer. Within 4-6 inches(for sprouts, they're fragile).
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hemmm.. HID ?! i know about it, but i think im gonna use HID later after my first harvest, coz i dont want to spend all of my money of it, i just have a little budget, ( poor me hiks hiks ). i hope this cfl can grow up the plants healtyly, and i can get the clones for future, so i will modified my closet later, into "CLOSET GROWING KILLING MECHINE" ahahhahahahah just kidding :lol:

TeaTreeOil, do u think what all iv done is ok ? i just want to know, if all of my work is not false, so i will update it every day.. cuz this is my first time, i dont want get bad.. thx buddy
 
Check this out: https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/161775-220w-cfl-4x4-floor-plan.html

My second post has bulb comparison charts.

Try to keep as much foliage within your bulb's light range as possible. Just look at the charts, they're easy as pie to understand.

You definitely have enough bulbs so far, distance may be an issue though. Those 2700k bulbs(yellow/redish) in my experiences produce more heat than 6500k bulbs. Pretty sure it's due to more phosphors to tone the light, they technically emit UV(below blue/indigo aka 10 nm to 400 nm) light that phosphor coatings shift to produce visible light. Plants use 350-750nm mostly(400-700nm is called PAR). Above 700nm to about 1mm are various stages of IR radiation.
 
TeaTreeOil said:
Check this out: https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/161775-220w-cfl-4x4-floor-plan.html

My second post has bulb comparison charts.

Try to keep as much foliage within your bulb's light range as possible. Just look at the charts, they're easy as pie to understand.

You definitely have enough bulbs so far, distance may be an issue though. Those 2700k bulbs(yellow/redish) in my experiences produce more heat than 6500k bulbs. Pretty sure it's due to more phosphors to tone the light, they technically emit UV(below blue/indigo aka 10 nm to 400 nm) light that phosphor coatings shift to produce visible light. Plants use 350-750nm mostly(400-700nm is called PAR). Above 700nm to about 1mm are various stages of IR radiation.
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oh man, ur really really help me out, thats chart is help me from this confused ligthing hahahha..

i have put my ligts distance about 4 inches, i just scare about the heat, so i put the licgt a little closer,,
sorry i dotn have the pic, dammm coz my camera is broke, i will take the pic tomorrow, so u can take a look my progress..

u doin so good man,, thx
 
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