My 8hr flowering experiment

torontoke

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Do you own a lab coat ?

i am only interested in seeing some pictures of plants you have grown
not really interested in research papers you have read
I havent posted research papers.
Someone asked for a link to the magazine article which was the starting point of this thread.
Judging by the lab coat question im gonna guess your just trying to b witty.
 

skunkd0c

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I havent posted research papers.
Someone asked for a link to the magazine article which was the starting point of this thread.
Judging by the lab coat question im gonna guess your just trying to witty.
We have a plethora of scientists on this forum who conduct research with microscopes and record the results with crayon

all that complex stuff goes way over my head though, i just like looking at pretty pictures :)
 

torontoke

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Sorry man
No lab coat
Very small amount of fancy words i pick up along the way.
Kinda hard to get good pics when the light are on but i will take some tomorrow.

Heres the babiesimage.jpgApollo13/snowlotus x solo stash/phantom cookies
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Chemdawg x solostash/phantomcookies

Theres 4 of each they all look about the same only 14 days old
 

WattSaver

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My lab coat has been at the bottom of the hamper for several yrs now. And I'd have to say I'm one of the most non-conformist growers.

Don't believe in 12/12 haven't had 12 on in close to 3yrs.
Don't believe in HPS (yellow light) I grow using white light for the last 4yrs
Don't believe in Nutes in brightly colored bottles, been using CRF's for over 5yrs
I believe passive hydro can hold it's own against active hydro
I believe you can use soil in a hydro grow
And several other non-conformist methods

I appreciate you bringing up this topic. I don't know if I'll actually drop my hrs to 6 until next summer so I can run the 1k bulb. But I'm curious enough to try. Currently I'm at 9 on because of heat issues. I started this run at 10 on and a few days back I dropped it to 9. The girls haven't slowed down their stretch with the reduced light.

I hope you don't mind here's a few photos. Freebie fem seeds - Amnesia on left and Afghan Kush Special on right. Grown in 2gal coco hempy buckets with soil core, food is a blend of 2 Osmocote products. Light is dual 400w CMH. Day 26 and I stressed them a bunch in transition from veg box to flower, but they've recovered well. The support wires are right at 4' above the drain tray.

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And here's the next round they are Maui crosses from a breeding event a few yrs back. I have tried the Gas Light schedule before but my veg box runs on T8 bulbs and I could see a difference in growth but they did stay in veg. So I still run it 18/6. If I had a hi wattage veg area I would use the GL schedule.
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torontoke

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I dont mind at all.
The more the merrier.
Your setup looks great.
I cant wait to have a big open area like that. Im getting more and more into the idea of building one of those multi cob rigs to try to combat the temps.
Honestly i will never run 12/12 again but i also wouldnt use 6/18 either.
I like the idea of 8/16 and using one light to do three areas or building a switch box to flip so that the energy use is constant to sort of out smart the smart meter.
 

Mr.Head

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I dont mind at all.
The more the merrier.
Your setup looks great.
I cant wait to have a big open area like that. Im getting more and more into the idea of building one of those multi cob rigs to try to combat the temps.
Honestly i will never run 12/12 again but i also wouldnt use 6/18 either.
I like the idea of 8/16 and using one light to do three areas or building a switch box to flip so that the energy use is constant to sort of out smart the smart meter.
do it. Mine cost me about $400-450 CAD but my god is it impressing me. Haven't flowered yet but great growth on everything. Wago's make it STUPID easy. If you go with Vero's and the Molex connectors it's like lego easy lol.

Seedlings are doing killer under it. lights 3.5-4 feet above them. I always seemed to have one side of my seedlings grow faster then the others under my HPS and CFL's I had to rotate twice a day to get proper growth in my space. This Vero29 rig has them doing great and I have a cramped space right now with lots of veggies going.

I went with Vero 29's and CEN-100-42> Expensive to get the parts here from Cali (Jameco) but it was sooo worth it. :) I went with the 1 Driver per cob so I can take one off the rig and have a veg light.
 

torontoke

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do it. Mine cost me about $400-450 CAD but my god is it impressing me. Haven't flowered yet but great growth on everything. Wago's make it STUPID easy. If you go with Vero's and the Molex connectors it's like lego easy lol.

Seedlings are doing killer under it. lights 3.5-4 feet above them. I always seemed to have one side of my seedlings grow faster then the others under my HPS and CFL's I had to rotate twice a day to get proper growth in my space. This Vero29 rig has them doing great and I have a cramped space right now with lots of veggies going.

I went with Vero 29's and CEN-100-42> Expensive to get the parts here from Cali (Jameco) but it was sooo worth it. :) I went with the 1 Driver per cob so I can take one off the rig and have a veg light.
Thats sounds alot like what i was thinking on the whole led thing tho i feel like im in a catch 22 because i have no doubt that the led would be way better for this cabinet but once i move i plan to use either a big room in the basement or a shipping container and id need way more jam. Plus theres the fact that i havent worked on two years so saying money is tight is an understatement.
We shall see tho because the temps are making me consider shutting this bitch down for now.
 

Mr.Head

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Thats sounds alot like what i was thinking on the whole led thing tho i feel like im in a catch 22 because i have no doubt that the led would be way better for this cabinet but once i move i plan to use either a big room in the basement or a shipping container and id need way more jam. Plus theres the fact that i havent worked on two years so saying money is tight is an understatement.
We shall see tho because the temps are making me consider shutting this bitch down for now.
Yeah large scale LED's aren't economical yet. I hear you on the tight money :)
 
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torontoke

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I have a buttload of hps and other equipment so i wouldnt even attempt to use led to flower a large scale room. I was told i need one cob per foot and my cabinet is apparently 11 sq feet so im not even sure what and how many but once i get frustrated enough i will probably go for it and build one.
 

torontoke

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So its been awhile since ive updated this. But sadly havent had much good luck around here. I had to take all my plants to my buddies house. Its been super humid in my shitty apartment and couldnt keep the temps in my cab under 90.
My poor gf couldnt stand being in the room when the light was on.

Not the funnest experience loading a bunch of week 6 flowering plants into the back of a lil car. But they seemed happy once unloaded.
Should have some finished bud shots soon enough.

So im planning to tear out everything in the veg and set it up with cfls and fluoros til i build the led.
I put another whack of seeds in paper towel last night.
Figure they will be ready to go around the time the temps cool down outside.
 

rover

Active Member
Does this research you speak of involve growing plants yourself
or is it more focused on reading papers ?
I've grown enough to know that most everyone on these forums are stuck in their ways to not actually try shit out for themselves and hate on the ones that do try new things. unless you have proof, meaning actual evidence that supports your statement, your opinion doesn't mean shit. Research is both reading and applying what you read.
 

Mr.Head

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I've grown enough to know that most everyone on these forums are stuck in their ways to not actually try shit out for themselves and hate on the ones that do try new things. unless you have proof, meaning actual evidence that supports your statement, your opinion doesn't mean shit. Research is both reading and applying what you read.
sometimes the proof isn't even enough. People with good results defoliating are still shat on when they have proven results from long time experience. Trial and error. I respect those that put in the work so I don't have to.

Spreading knowledge is valuable but there will always be those that shun facts.
 

torontoke

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sometimes the proof isn't even enough. People with good results defoliating are still shat on when they have proven results from long time experience. Trial and error. I respect those that put in the work so I don't have to.

Spreading knowledge is valuable but there will always be those that shun facts.
Those people are steadfast in doing things the traditional ways and thats up to them. Everyone is entitled to do things in their grows however they like.
I know a guy that still uses nothing but promix and advanced nutes 12/12 and doesnt even think about changing anything because he knows exactly what he is gonna get everytime. Doesnt matter to him that things change over time and strains have evolved.
Its never been my intent to sell people on change im more focused on trying things for myself. And perfecting things to help me going forward.
 

ttystikk

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I tried gaslight timing with twelve on and one hour in the middle of the dark period- and the plants basically stopped growing. They were used to the old regime of 16 on and 8 off, should I have waited out a transition period or something? I went two weeks and had to switch back...
 

torontoke

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I tried gaslight timing with twelve on and one hour in the middle of the dark period- and the plants basically stopped growing. They were used to the old regime of 16 on and 8 off, should I have waited out a transition period or something? I went two weeks and had to switch back...
Usually i switch my seedlings from 24/0 to the glr and it takes a week or two for them to get used to it and take off. Some people do find that certain strains dont respond to well to glr. I havent come across any of those myself yet.
I use 12 on 5.5 off 1 on 5.5 off.
 

ttystikk

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Usually i switch my seedlings from 24/0 to the glr and it takes a week or two for them to get used to it and take off. Some people do find that certain strains dont respond to well to glr. I havent come across any of those myself yet.
I use 12 on 5.5 off 1 on 5.5 off.
That's the same schedule I used...
 
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