My 8hr flowering experiment

GroErr said:

290g's is nothing to sneeze at in that space, if the quality's there which looks like it, it's almost enough bud to build a house (or at least get a good start on it!)

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Thanks g
It's certainly enough to last me 50ish days.
Not complaining really with my small cabinet and only 180 watts on only 8hrs I'm not ashamed of the yield but I'm certainly not bragging about the results either.
After the next couple seed runs I'm going to try 6 bigger multi topped plants and take the challenge a lil more serious.
I'll get a lb out of 6sq ft and then I'll know the exact recipe for a 100sq ft room etc.
Let downs keep us humble and hungry sir

torontoke said:

Thanks g
It's certainly enough to last me 50ish days.
Not complaining really with my small cabinet and only 180 watts on only 8hrs I'm not ashamed of the yield but I'm certainly not bragging about the results either.
After the next couple seed runs I'm going to try 6 bigger multi topped plants and take the challenge a lil more serious.
I'll get a lb out of 6sq ft and then I'll know the exact recipe for a 100sq ft room etc.
Let downs keep us humble and hungry sir

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Certainly no shame in that run, with that wattage and 8hr. cycles I'd be very happy with that weight.

To maximize weights you're heading in the right direction, these LED's can grow 30" of bud so a little more veg and some training to get them 30-36" high after the stretch you could pull some more weight. From seed though it's always a variable, you never know the production, how much they'll stretch, all you can do is take a best guess and let them do their thing.

GroErr said:

Certainly no shame in that run, with that wattage and 8hr. cycles I'd be very happy with that weight.

To maximize weights you're heading in the right direction, these LED's can grow 30" of bud so a little more veg and some training to get them 30-36" high after the stretch you could pull some more weight. From seed though it's always a variable, you never know the production, how much they'll stretch, all you can do is take a best guess and let them do their thing.

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Yes sir
I know from experience in the past before leaving 12/12 that even the second run using clones can vastly improve yield and zeroing in on specific phenos with more training veg I should be able to double some plant yields.
I'm usually running new seeds with various phenos and not the best gauge for judging what's holding back the numbers.

Lots of good smoke to enjoy in the meantime

I feel for you, I really do. If it makes you feel any better my first chop yielded a whopping 6.8g. I do expect the remainder of the plants to be more and I am hoping one of them hits a 1/2 oz. I am not disappointed, it has been good smoke so far, and clean.

zoic said:

I feel for you, I really do. If it makes you feel any better my first chop yielded a whopping 6.8g. I do expect the remainder of the plants to be more and I am hoping one of them hits a 1/2 oz. I am not disappointed, it has been good smoke so far, and clean.

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Onwards and upwards sir.
Obstacles and hurdles in life are what make us enjoy the smooth sections.
The fact that it yielded anything and is good smoke is reason enough to do it again and do it better.
I'm heavily medicated literally every minute that I'm awake what do I have to complain about.

Pollen is everywhere in there.
Plus it looks like I'll have a bag to save for the next round cept I'll only hit the lowers.

Landos stash x rku
Rku x rku f2
Rku x rks X rku
Gmt x rku
Should be plumping up anytime now.
Going to remove the male and bag him up tomorrow.
Then I'll spread everyone out and take a good group shot.

torontoke said:

Pollen is everywhere in there.
Plus it looks like I'll have a bag to save for the next round crept I'll only hit the lowers.

Landos stash x rku
Rku x rku f2
Rku x rks X rku
Gmt x rku
Should be plumping up anytime now.
Going to remove the male and bag him up tomorrow.
Then I'll spread everyone out and take a good group shot.

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Nice, open pollinated plants = tons of seeds As soon as that first leaf came up on screen I saw the male flowers on it and knew what was going on, a familiar sight in my breeding tent I collect after open pollinating, usually a bunch left to use later.

GroErr said:

Nice, open pollinated plants = tons of seeds As soon as that first leaf came up on screen I saw the male flowers on it and knew what was going on, a familiar sight in my breeding tent I collect after open pollinating, usually a bunch left to use later.

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Yes sir
I used the two nicest gmt I had in veg and well all the females I got from rku and landos stash.
That giant Indy fan is the gmt.
I'll separate all the seed into different lots and then run however many test germs and see if there's a good enough pop and growth rate to run testers and maybe I'll hit the lotto. Hit the testers with the dad pollen who knows how deep it will be worth going.

Either way that seed fairy will find her loads getting heavier and heavier.

Jeez, when I saw all those pollen bags I figured you could go a long way with it. Do you store it in the fridge if you want to save some?

zoic said:

Jeez, when I saw all those pollen bags I figured you could go a long way with it. Do you store it in the fridge if you want to save some?

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Exactly.
If I find a great plant out of the testers and I paint some of that pollen on to it then it increases the chances of locking in that pheno. Plus I want to use that roadkill uni pollen on the plants in my veg tent to make the other half of the crosses.
Then I'll have a good mix of crosses to focus in on and find the best ones and bobs ur uncle.
Pollen in a fridge should stay viable at least 6-8months.
I have a gmt male in my veg tent that I might keep an eye on for more pollen.

I may try 10/14 if I can summon the courage but there is also a little voice saying trade the savings for more watts during lights on. I remember reading about reduced hours but the claim was that flower time increased so I didn't try it. @torontoke seems to have done and repeatedly done due diligence here. Might have to go see the Wizard for courage.

hillbill said:

I may try 10/14 if I can summon the courage but there is also a little voice saying trade the savings for more watts during lights on. I remember reading about reduced hours but the claim was that flower time increased so I didn't try it. @torontoke seems to have done and repeatedly done due diligence here. Might have to go see the Wizard for courage.

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I don't know if I'd call it courage that prompted me to try this. More like boredom and curiousity.
Now as far as your thoughts on using the saved hours for extra wattage.....that depends.
Depends most on what your lighting numbers are like now. This is just my hypothesis really and clearly I'm not a scientist or even a qualified bro scientist but from what I've seen over the years is most indoor growers go way overboard.
And 12 hours of way to many watts takes the plants over the line of diminishing return. I noticed that by the 9th hour during 12/12 that the plants begin shut down mode. I could visibly see that they couldn't or weren't taking in and processing those extra hours.
When I tired 6/18 with the 400mh it was obvious that it wasn't enough time to fill out completely to be worthwhile.
When I switched to 8/16 with the mh they filled in almost as much as I'd have gotten with 12/12. Once I switched to the led and the better spectrum and extra photons took over I doubt I'm losing anything besides hydro costs.
But every garden/space is different.
I've been tweaking this cabinet for a few years now and I'm finding limits to the amount of yield/physical growspace vs the amount of lights on.

Lots of trial error and repeating has occurred to lead me down the path I'm on now and I always recommend everyone choose their own path but at least people can choose knowing that their are options in the grow game.

Edit: oh and reducing hours speeds up the entire flower process but even dropping an hour or two the last few weeks can dramatically speed up finish. That's not just my opinion but most people who have tried playing around with cycles.

Thanks for popping in hillbill

Just reset to 10/14 and really I run COBs and still a couple a51 panels and can't really use more of those photons in my space. I am perpetual so the days will be constant. Respected people seem to do well with it. Boom! Boom! Out go the lights!

Tiger mountain
Deadhead og x lbl
Space monkey

More cowbell

And the landscape is a flourish with beauty.

Those are some nice looking plants.

Thanks bud
They are coming along nicely
Shortest ones are around 3' tallest ones are 5-6'
Should be nice if they make it.
Fingers crossed

torontoke said:

Should be nice if they make it.

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I am sure they will be nice WHEN they make it and I really hope they make it home with YOU. I wanted to do that this year but my timing was a little off. The plants are just a little over 3 weeks old, I would rather have had 6-8 weeks just to start, last month. I will just use this year to scout out some spots.

zoic said:

I am sure they will be nice WHEN they make it and I really hope they make it home with YOU. I wanted to do that this year but my timing was a little off. The plants are just a little over 3 weeks old, I would rather have had 6-8 weeks just to start, last month. I will just use this year to scout out some spots.

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Start vegging some next march April to go out end of may June and you will be surprised.
I was lucky the soil here is rich af
Tons of oak and other trees have been creating an awesome mix since god was young and all I did was add in a lil homemade bio char and fed them once.