My 8hr flowering experiment

torontoke · Apr 5, 2017

GroErr said:
Yeah I'd take 46 days any day

Don't know what footprint you're looking to cover off but I was looking around and noticed HLG has some 5000k 135w QB kits in stock...

Ya I'm more then a lil frustrated with those guys and won't be ordering from them anytime soon. I will see if I can whip something up on my own.
Won't be hard to come up with something better then I currently have in there

GroErr · Apr 5, 2017

torontoke said:
Ya I'm more then a lil frustrated with those guys and won't be ordering from them anytime soon. I will see if I can whip something up on my own.
Won't be hard to come up with something better then I currently have in there

I hear you on that one, that's why I was only looking around, not sure about buying them, there at least... Those cheap blurple panels have served me well, I may just stick with those for veg if I need to replace any. I've had to replace one panel in 4 years, not bad.

torontoke · Apr 5, 2017

GroErr said:
I hear you on that one, that's why I was only looking around, not sure about buying them, there at least... Those cheap blurple panels have served me well, I may just stick with those for veg if I need to replace any. I've had to replace one panel in 4 years, not bad.

I have a funny feeling that the window for those guys is gonna close twice as fast as it opened.
Wouldn't really piss me off that bad and I'd wish them many millions but the bad customer service has left a real bad taste in my mouth.
The rude pm I got before I ordered my boards months ago should have told me enough. But still I said f it and got two.
Even did my best to help them and show people what they could do in a small space with less hours.
And what did I get for paying to do r and d?
I got fucked out of even being able to buy more. No Canadian shipping the last run and then even after promising they wouldn't be out again here we are.
I wish them the best of luck in all that they do but they really need to fix their supply channels and get shit in stock before redesigning and changing colours and bins of diodes.

GroErr · Apr 5, 2017

torontoke said:
I have a funny feeling that the window for those guys is gonna close twice as fast as it opened.
Wouldn't really piss me off that bad and I'd wish them many millions but the bad customer service has left a real bad taste in my mouth.
The rude pm I got before I ordered my boards months ago should have told me enough. But still I said f it and got two.
Even did my best to help them and show people what they could do in a small space with less hours.
And what did I get for paying to do r and d?
I got fucked out of even being able to buy more. No Canadian shipping the last run and then even after promising they wouldn't be out again here we are.
I wish them the best of luck in all that they do but they really need to fix their supply channels and get shit in stock before redesigning and changing colours and bins of diodes.

Yep, my experience as well, why I never pulled the trigger on those. If you can't take the time to respond to your prospects/customers, maybe you should re-think being in business...

torontoke · Apr 5, 2017

GroErr said:
Yep, my experience as well, why I never pulled the trigger on those. If you can't take the time to respond to your prospects/customers, maybe you should re-think being in business...

I usually try to support fellow forumers if thats even a word.
I know ttystick has some money invested in them and he's been more then nice to me since I got here. Wanted to help spread the word and make sure he makes his investment back but it seems to have gotten out of hand. Those of us using the boards pay for them and supply free r and d and sales.
Only to screw ourselves out of getting more lol naaa
I'm done with that.

I'll keep using the one I have now and get my tent sorted out.

torontoke · Apr 5, 2017

In other news
The early training in the tent is looking like it's gonna pay off.
Have more then a few multi headed mini beasts. Gonna keep toppin and training and seriously hoping to squeeze 8 nice sized 3gals in there next run and pull at least a lb.

torontoke · Apr 5, 2017

I forgot to post these before chopping her yesterday.
Day 46 dank Sinatra
Very very loud

Now that these three have had a quick rough trim and a day and two hanging and drying it looks like a worthwhile haul indeed.

If I used roughly 160w for flower what's an acceptable yield? Who knows
My guess is 2-3zips per. times 5

torontoke · Apr 6, 2017

Well pulling the 3 out have done nothing for the house smells.
Went in to do a mini clean and rearranged stuff. The space phantom is the smelly bitch. Reeks of creamy baby puke. Hopefully in a week she's getting the axe.

Seems that I caused some drama in the led section by being upset so I think I'll just stick to my own journal and the bodhi thread. Can't afford to alienate myself from any more sub sections on this site or it's not worth signing on anymore.
Not that I've been making friends by the boatload anyway lol

SSGrower · Apr 6, 2017

torontoke said:
I forgot to post these before chopping her yesterday.
Day 46 dank Sinatra
Very very loud
View attachment 3919713 View attachment 3919715

Now that these three have had a quick rough trim and a day and two hanging and drying it looks like a worthwhile haul indeed.

If I used roughly 160w for flower what's an acceptable yield? Who knows
My guess is 2-3zips per. times 5

forgive the assumption but looks like 8hr working out just fine.....

torontoke · Apr 6, 2017

SSGrower said:
forgive the assumption but looks like 8hr working out just fine.....

Works for me sir
Been a long uphill road getting here but I'm happy with the results so far.

torontoke · Apr 6, 2017

So just to keep myself up to date on flip days and everything.
Currently flowering
Space phantom "orb" is at day 39
Atf x ssdd is at day 40
Atf x ssdd is day 3
More cowbell day 2
Dream beaver day 3
Dream beaver2 day 2
Space monkey day 1
Grandpasbreath day2

GroErr · Apr 6, 2017

torontoke said:
I forgot to post these before chopping her yesterday.
Day 46 dank Sinatra
Very very loud
View attachment 3919713 View attachment 3919715

Now that these three have had a quick rough trim and a day and two hanging and drying it looks like a worthwhile haul indeed.

If I used roughly 160w for flower what's an acceptable yield? Who knows
My guess is 2-3zips per. times 5

Looks great, and fast as f*k! I noticed a couple of comments on smell, get used to it. LED's produce louder terps for some reason, I noticed a huge difference right away when I switched out to the COBs, don't imagine these QB's will be much different on that front. As far as yield, you're the best judge based on what you were pulling before. In your setup with mixed strains anything above 1 gpw would be a bonus imo, sounds like you should be well above that mark...

zoic · Apr 6, 2017

GroErr said:
LED's produce louder terps for some reason

Nice. That comment lifted my day. Trichs are what is all about. I am really hoping my leaves are sugar coated like Frosted Flakes. In spite of cautions I received that it takes a lot to make hash, I still have to explore and experiment myself. There is nothing I enjoy smoking more than good hash. I am so happy I switched from fluorescent to LED.

BobCajun · Apr 6, 2017

They do look pretty fat, but I can't see all that much resin. Maybe just because it's not a macro shot. But maybe they need a lot of light energy to make a lot of resin. May be why 12 hours is more potent than 11 or less. Could just be the strain, idk. Just something that I noticed from the shots.

zoic · Apr 6, 2017

torontoke said:
Works for me sir
Been a long uphill road getting here but I'm happy with the results so far.

I am confused. I thought you switched to 10/14 to see if it was better. Are you just sticking with 8/16 for flowering. Sorry after 1200+ posts I am probably just confused. :oops:

torontoke · Apr 6, 2017

zoic said:
I am confused. I thought you switched to 10/14 to see if it was better. Are you just sticking with 8/16 for flowering. Sorry after 1200+ posts I am probably just confused.

No u aren't confused.
I said I was going to switch to 10/14 this run but when I built the led I put it in right away on my old timer which was already on 8/16.
I think I recommended you try 10/14

torontoke · Apr 6, 2017

BobCajun said:
They do look pretty fat, but I can't see all that much resin. Maybe just because it's not a macro shot. But maybe they need a lot of light energy to make a lot of resin. May be why 12 hours is more potent than 11 or less. Could just be the strain, idk. Just something that I noticed from the shots.

I don't know what to say mr bob
All through this run I've been posting shots of even the lowers being covered in resin but perhaps my standards are lower then yours sir.
I thought these had to much shine to even show up in pictures tbh.
Wasn't really lookin to share my non potent yet super fat n smelly bud anyway so everyone wins :blsmoke:

ttystikk · Apr 6, 2017

torontoke said:
No u aren't confused.
I said I was going to switch to 10/14 this run but when I built the led I put it in right away on my old timer which was already on 8/16.
I think I recommended you try 10/14

This is only an educated guess, but I suspect that in order to make short day bloom cycles work best, you can't also skimp on light intensity. It's gotta be plenty strong light.

@torontoke is this your experience?

torontoke · Apr 6, 2017

ttystikk said:
This is only an educated guess, but I suspect that in order to make short day bloom cycles work best, you can't also skimp on light intensity. It's gotta be plenty strong light.

@torontoke is this your experience?

Correct sir
When put on photon overload the shortened cycles do produce. And quality wise I'm more then impressed.
Pics really don't do it justice but it's easily better then what's available at my local club.
I just sampled a mid plant bud and couldn't be happier.
:bigjoint:

zoic · Apr 6, 2017

torontoke said:
No u aren't confused.
I said I was going to switch to 10/14 this run but when I built the led I put it in right away on my old timer which was already on 8/16.
I think I recommended you try 10/14

OK, I understand now. I just flipped mine but I am starting with 12/12 just to find out if they are all female or not. Considering my obvious lack of light I may just run with that for the first grow. Thanks again.

FWIW I think your buds look plenty frosty. If my connection had stuff that nice I would be a very happy (and stoned) guy. :mrgreen:

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