Mr Feder From Ft Lee NJ Writes In...Hey! Roseanne Roseannadanna..

schuylaar

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i believe you are mistaken, i always use a light hand when discussing The Olive Garden, but if you prefer, simply substitute "Outback Steakhouse" (where they do not clean the prawns before cooking, Yay! Dookie!)
as long as we are appetizer appropriate ie; bloomin' onion..crikey, maite!
 

schuylaar

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well, well, well..the stench of new jersey politics..still permeates chris christie..can you believe that this might literally be what takes christie down for 2016?

Top Christie Staff Sought Lane Closings as Revenge

By KATE ZERNIKEJAN. 8, 2014


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In December, Gov. Chris Christie announced the resignation of Bill Baroni, a Port Authority official, as the controversy threatened Mr. Christie’s political fortunes. Mel Evans/Associated Press

A series of newly obtained emails and text messages shows that Gov. Chris Christie’s office was closely involved with lane closings on the New Jersey side of the George Washington Bridge in September, and that officials closed the lanes as retribution against the mayor whose town was gridlocked as a result.

Mr. Christie has insisted that his staff and his campaign office had nothing to do with the local lane closings, and said that they were done as part of a traffic study. The bridge scandal highlights one of his biggest vulnerabilities as Mr. Christie steps out onto the national stage as a potential presidential candidate: the accusation that he is a bully who retaliates against the smallest slights.

The emails show that Bridget Anne Kelly, a deputy chief of staff in Mr. Christie’s office, gave a signal to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey to close the lanes about two weeks before the closings occurred.

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“Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee,” she emailed David Wildstein, Mr. Christie’s close friend from high school, and one of his appointees at the Port Authority, which controls the bridge.

After the emails were released on Wednesday, Mr. Christie canceled his one public event for the day, which had been billed as an announcement of progress in the recovery from Hurricane Sandy. His office had no immediate comment.

Mr. Christie’s handpicked chairman of the Port Authority, David Samson, was also involved in the closings, according to the emails, which describe his efforts to “retaliate” against New York officials who had not been told of the changes and sought to ease the gridlock.

The emails indicate that Mr. Christie’s staff and his associates at the Port Authority were closely aware of the political context. Mr. Christie, a Republican, was leaning on local Democratic officials to endorse his re-election bid so that he could then seek his party’s presidential nomination in 2016 by arguing that he was the candidate who could attract bipartisan support in a blue state.

Mr. Christie won re-election in November by 22 points, and instantly became a leading candidate for his party’s presidential nomination by winning across many demographic groups. His campaign boasted that he had been endorsed by more than 50 local Democratic officials.

During the campaign, as Mr. Christie and his associates leaned on Democratic local officials for endorsements, many mayors whispered that they feared the governor would withhold money or favor if they did not go along.

Even Republican lawmakers who have supported Mr. Christie tell stories of being punished when he perceived them as not supporting him enough.

The mayor of Fort Lee, Mark Sokolich, is a Democrat and did not endorse Mr. Christie. In the obtained emails and texts, Mr. Christie’s staff and appointees appeared gleeful when the abrupt lane closings gridlocked the town for four days, beginning with the first day of school and including the anniversary of Sept. 11. Mr. Sokolich, who had not been informed of the closings, texted Bill Baroni, the governor’s top appointee at the Port Authority, asking for “help” because the lane closings were making children on buses late to school.

“Is it wrong that I am smiling?” Mr. Wildstein texted Ms. Kelly.

“No,” she texted back.

“I feel badly about the kids,” he texted.

“They are the children of Buono voters,” she said, referring to Mr. Christie’s Democratic opponent, Barbara Buono, who was trailing consistently in the polls and lost by a wide margin.

Ms. Kelly is one of three deputy chiefs of staff in Mr. Christie’s office, and a close member of his team. Her Twitter timeline included a photograph, before it was taken down Wednesday morning, of her celebrating her 40th birthday last year with the governor and other members of his staff.


“Yes, unreal. Fixed now,” he emailed.

Mr. Sokolich texted Mr. Baroni later that month seeking to understand why the lanes were closed, and said that people were saying it was “punishment.”

“Try as I may to dispel these rumors I am having a tough time,” he wrote.

Mr. Baroni, Ms. Kelly and Mr. Wildstein showed some alarm, swearing and discussing how they could avoid Mr. Sokolich while also quieting the growing controversy.

Earlier this week, the Democratic mayor of Jersey City, Steve Fulop, said the governor’s office had canceled meetings with him after he informed them he would not endorse the governor for re-election.

Mr. Christie’s associates had been pressing hard on Mr. Fulop, a rising star in the Democratic party who took office in July, but he resisted before finally endorsing Ms. Buono.

The emails, obtained by The New York Times and other news outlets Wednesday, show that Mr. Fulop’s decision did not sit well with the governor’s office. Mr. Christie’s aides and the Port Authority officials talked about how they were refusing to return the telephone calls from the Fort Lee mayor. “Radio silence,” Mr. Wildstein wrote to Ms. Kelly in an email. “His name comes right after mayor Fulop.”

The documents released Wednesday are heavily redacted by Port Authority officials, who turned them over under a subpoena from Democratic legislators investigating the lane closings, making it hard to determine in some cases who is speaking.

But they indicate that Mr. Christie’s staff, appointees at the Port Authority and members of his campaign staff were all intimately involved in discussing the growing scandal and how to react to it as early as October. One series of text messages between Ms. Kelly and Mr. Wildstein indicates that in early August, at the same time they were discussing the plan for the lane closings, they were trying to set up a meeting between Mr. Christie and Mr. Samson. It is not clear, however, that the meeting was regarding the lane closings, although later emails make clear that Mr. Samson was involved in those plans.

Mr. Baroni and Mr. Wildstein resigned their positions in December as the Port Authority’s executive deputy director and director of interstate capital projects, respectively, as the scandal threatened Mr. Christie’s political fortunes.
 

UncleBuck

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that's pretty damnign, but i think christie has just enough cover to escape relatively unscathed. will still be a nagging concern though.
 

NLXSK1

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Christie's ability to get out of this one is dependent upon several things.

1. Did he actually know it was going on?

If he did... Then

2. Is there any paper trail to him?

Unless #2 he is not going to have an issue with this.

He should already have fired the staffer and whoever else knew about it.

If he did know about it, gets caught in a lie and there is evidence then he may very well be done.

I dont think there is a great chance of that though.
 

schuylaar

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Christie's ability to get out of this one is dependent upon several things.

1. Did he actually know it was going on?

If he did... Then

2. Is there any paper trail to him?

Unless #2 he is not going to have an issue with this.

He should already have fired the staffer and whoever else knew about it.

If he did know about it, gets caught in a lie and there is evidence then he may very well be done.

I dont think there is a great chance of that though.
you've brought up an interesting point: christie is very connected to his base through daily face-to-face..yesterday he cancelled his day and did no face-to-face..instead of calling for investigation into his office..he's keeping his mouth shut..this in itself is damming for him as he's quite vocal on EVERYTHING and i mean everything..
 

NLXSK1

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you've brought up an interesting point: christie is very connected to his base through daily face-to-face..yesterday he cancelled his day and did no face-to-face..instead of calling for investigation into his office..he's keeping his mouth shut..this in itself is damming for him as he's quite vocal on EVERYTHING and i mean everything..
So he should be really vocal about shit he doesnt know??

Have you ever been a manager? He is going to have to have an internal investigation to see who knew what and who did what (assuming he was not involved). It would be stupid of him to say anything until he knew the results.
 

Doer

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oh c'mon.

they needed to close those lanes for a study they said.

the study does not exist in any way shape or form, but that's the story.

case closed.
I'd say the case is just opening. The case for Block Christie. I saw on CNN they already have a case going for Block Rubio, as well.
 

Doer

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this is a stoners debate forum..i post information that can be debated by those with little or no political experience..which is basically, most of the right wingers here..
Stoners here can't debate. Debate has rules. :)
 

Doer

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fail.

i was a reagan republican..i volunteered with the 'young republicans' group at an event in west orange, nj for then presidential nominee, ronald reagan..met him, shook his hand and received an autograph..i was the first person at the event to receive this honor..shameful?, i think not..it was held here:

http://www.themanorrestaurant.com/hotel-information-p.html
That's funny that is Hillary's story also...a young PUB. Are you really sure you are Elin Maddow?

Weird because I was a young rioter at that age.
 

schuylaar

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So he should be really vocal about shit he doesnt know??

Have you ever been a manager? He is going to have to have an internal investigation to see who knew what and who did what (assuming he was not involved). It would be stupid of him to say anything until he knew the results.
why yes, yes nlxsk1, i have and he knows EXACTLY what's going on..there will be a press conference today i believe..stay tuned:wink:
 

Doer

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why yes, yes nlxsk1, i have and he knows EXACTLY what's going on..there will be a press conference today i believe..stay tuned:wink:
That is funny, because I have been a tech manager for these last 25 years at the same company. I am responsible for anything that happens like this on my extended watch. It has been and may be in the future, a nightmare. But I am still here and the nightmares are fired.
 
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