Mosaic Virus or Phos. Def.? PLEASE HELP! (Pics)
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VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO
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quite using distilled water
missnu
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Cannabis can't get tobacco Mosaic as it isn't a tobacco plant...I guess it could get Cannabis Mosaic Virus, but there hasn't been such a thing found for real yet..as in they haven't tested a plant and found the virus, but that could be because perhaps they just don't test cannabis plants for such thing, but it seems that since the Mosaic Virus is the most widely studied virus to date that we would know for sure...
To me it looks like perhaps your pH has had some sort of flux, possibly from overnuting.
To me it looks like perhaps your pH has had some sort of flux, possibly from overnuting.
missnu
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And distilled water isn't very good for soil...it is better for hydro where you want things basically sterile, but with dirt it is alright for things to be, well full of life, and grit, and of course dirt...that is why unfiltered rain water is so good for soil plants. It is full of life...which soil is sort of living...so don't give it "dead" water. Ya know?
So back off on the feed solution, and check your pH, and if you can safely drink from your tap then your plants probably can too.
So back off on the feed solution, and check your pH, and if you can safely drink from your tap then your plants probably can too.
The Milk
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- Tobacco Mosaic Virus (YMV)
Gary W. Moorman, Professor of Plant Pathology
Tobacco mosaic virus (TMV) is named for one of the first plants in which it was found in the 1800s. However, it can infect well over 350 different species of plants. TMV is made up of a piece of nucleic acid (ribonucleic acid; RNA) and a surrounding protein coat. The complete virus is a submicroscopic, rigid, rod-shaped particle. Once inside the plant cell, the protein coat falls away and nucleic acid portion directs the plant cell to produce more virus nucleic acid and virus protein, disrupting the normal activity of the cell.
missnu
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Most of those plants are in only a few families of plants, but none of them are in the same family of MJ..For real...just look it up...you can find a list of the plant families that are affected by Mosaic, but Cannabaceae isn't one of the affected families...that is fact.
missnu
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Are all the plants different strains...because some plants can handle pH fluctuations and higher concentrations of nutes, while others just can't...
I have a few strains that you can feed and feed and they will grow and grow and grow, but on the other hand, I have a couple others that if I look at the nutes too hard and then look at the plant they seem to start to burn...for real. I had one that would shrivel just from the soil...reused soil even..so I know it wasn't too hot by the end of the grow...anyway the only way to make it look nice was coco, but even then it would look like it needed some food, but even 1/16th of a dose would cause it to lose vigor and start to go eagle clawed on me. But for real I know all the signs of overfert, and buddy, you've got them. And again the distilled water is really not good for soil. Great for Hydro, but just too "dead" for soil. Soil needs the bacteria and microbes in the water, but distilled water has been distilled to remove all contaminants, but most of those contaminants, are the same things they add to bottled and spring water to make it taste like water...try drinking a glass of distilled water...it is gross, just not hydrating..and somehow takes flavor away. So please listen to what most of us are telling you. We know usually form experience...you will get to where you can tell who knows, and who thinks they know because they looked it up on google...
The Milk
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Yea I understand what your saying, just thought I'd post that bit of info I found.
VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO
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I would say more of a cal/mag def. from the use of distilled water
The Milk
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So now I'm getting told two things.. It's either nute def. or overnuted .... lol two quite different explanations... When I fed my plants with the 1/4 strength Recipe for success I left the "MagiCal" at 1/2 strength to avoid a Mag/Cal def. So I'm leaning more towards overfert.
And what I still don't understand is why only one of the two mothers are showing these signs.. If it is over/under nuted,shouldn't both be showing the same signs if on the SAME EXACT feed schedule? They are sitting side by side and My other mother looks perfectly fine.
And what I still don't understand is why only one of the two mothers are showing these signs.. If it is over/under nuted,shouldn't both be showing the same signs if on the SAME EXACT feed schedule? They are sitting side by side and My other mother looks perfectly fine.
VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO
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if you supplemented with cal/mag, then it isn't that.But it isn't TMV. Were gonna need more info on your set-up. Is it just the top leaves doing this?
missnu
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No flushing doesn't help in soil...it only makes issues worse...I told ya what to do...give them only water that isn't distilled for at least 2 watering cycles, and then resume feeding at a lighter dosage, skipping at least one cycle in between waterings. So if every 4th day your plants need water (just a number for an example) then wait 4 days and water...then wait 4 days then water again...then wait 4 days and feed (but a lower dosage than before)...then in 4 days water..then in 4 days feed...and so on and so on...as the plants start to get larger they might tolerate a slightly higher dosage, but it is better to up it late, than to up the feeding too early.
Cannabis with too little water might struggle, but giving too much can kill it.
Cannabis with too little food might struggle, but giving too much can kill it...
Always easier to go lighter and move up...because once it is too high it's a bitch to get back down without hurting the plant in the process.
If it is a calmag issue (which it isn't) then once you stop the distilled water it will right itself...so adding anything now would be a disaster...you just have to have patience and learn from your mistakes...over feeding is super common, but after a while you start to get a handle on it.
polyarcturus
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although i like wiki dont believe everything it says, unless there is some accredited research behind it. as far as cannabis mosaic virus existing, well, there are no accredited research papers or books as of yet... so no TMV in cannabis, yet, in the known science world.
listen to wetdog.
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