Monkeybones' 3rd Organic Garden - Fem Short Rider from Nirvana

Feels good to get things going again. Love having the garden to keep me occupied in the wee hours. This time we're going with Nirvana's un-failed autoflower, "Short Rider". By un-failed I mean my Northern Lights AF and apparently a lot of other people's AF's from their new selection a while back didn't autoflower at all. I still got some good bud though.

Anyway we're keeping it simple to start off, just 5 autoflowering feminized Short Rider beans in 1 gallon pots. I germinated them a couple days ago and they've been in dirt for a day. Just finished fixing up the grow room a bit and got time to take pictures.



Two have even already cracked the surface. Good start in my eyes.



Still with the good old 400w HPS. I have a spare t5 HO fixture from my aquarium hobby I might end up using as supplemental lighting.




Thanks for stopping by. Hope you stick around. Time to go haunt other people's journals.

All 5 are up and at it today. Looking healthy, no hitches so far

Soil needed aerating this morning. All's well. Numbered them for simplicity's sake.

A couple of slightly twisty but otherwise healthy leaves, same as has happened every grow. Doesn't seem to ever really effect anything in the long run. I bet it's something to do with the spectrum; it only ever happens in the first couple weeks, and never happens again throughout the rest of the plant's life. I'm going to add about 50 watts of extremely blue-rich light (6700k and 10000k bulbs) with this t5 fixture so if it's just the slightly blue-deficient spectrum of the HPS causing early growth problems then there should be some visible improvement.

Plant 1 had some trouble with its taproot, this happened before with Northern Lights when I didn't plant the seed deep enough. I hope I helped it by jostling the soil and burying the root deeper without disturbing the root structure too much. It wasn't really able to penetrate the soil deep enough.

Nice. what are you using for soil/nutes/tea's? The Ingredients. +rep

PakaloloHui said:

Nice. what are you using for soil/nutes/tea's? The Ingredients. +rep

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Thanks m8. =) I plant in a sterile medium of peat & perlite with premixed beneficials. I mix in enough blood and bone meal to more or less get the plant from start to finish very very scantily, and then supplement with teas of mexican & indonesian bat guanos, made with un-medicated amazon aquarium water. large, properly kept aquariums are a gold mine for plant health; absolutely saturated in good stuff like beneficials and vitamins, free of chlorine and chloramine as well as all other toxins, constantly stable PH, etc. I keep 100's of fish, invertebrates, and plants in it, so it is a constant source of freshly & naturally converted complex nutrients for the cannabis. never having to worry about any toxins is nice in organic grows where your plants health depends on the health of the bacteria in the soil.

monkeybones said:

Thanks m8. =) I plant in a sterile medium of peat & perlite with premixed beneficials. I mix in enough blood and bone meal to more or less get the plant from start to finish very very scantily, and then supplement with teas of mexican & indonesian bat guanos, made with un-medicated amazon aquarium water. large, properly kept aquariums are a gold mine for plant health; absolutely saturated in good stuff like beneficials and vitamins, free of chlorine and chloramine as well as all other toxins, constantly stable PH, etc. I keep 100's of fish, invertebrates, and plants in it, so it is a constant source of freshly & naturally converted complex nutrients for the cannabis. never having to worry about any toxins is nice in organic grows where your plants health depends on the health of the bacteria in the soil.

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Sounds Killer. This is currently what I have to use to make up my soil and tea. would like help if you can.

Roots Big Worm EWC, Happy Frog Bat Guano 0-5-0, Fish Bone Meal 3-16-0, Blood Meal 12-0-0, Maxicorp soluble powder, Mycrogrow Soluble (Mycro's & bacteria trich's and the goodies), Azomite, Sweet Dolomite Lime, Epsom Salt, Unsulphered Mollasses, BioAG Cytoplus (humic/trace/kelp), KOi Pond with Koi and gold fish plants and water fall, no chemicals or anything added. ph unknown at this time but have a test kit.I have many bags of root organic soil and 1 bag of their 707 formula and 2 bags of Light warrior, and a bag of Alaskan Bountea Humisoil. I can also comb the beach for dungenous crab shells if needed.

I will be using 1 gallon pots. to grow a few auto's under t5's. I have a mess of products and probably need some different guano's it sounds like for the tea's.
Could you maybe help this confused mad scientist? what I can do to maximize these ingredients? It sounds like I have alot of what you got going on, and what I would like to do, that is why I ask my friend

This willl be my first grow and I do not want to mess these little babies up. I have too much info clouding my head and need help to keep it simple.
Thank you if you can,
thank you if you can't
You may pm me if you wish, so not to clutter your thread.

PakaloloHui said:

Sounds Killer. This is currently what I have to use to make up my soil and tea. would like help if you can.

Roots Big Worm EWC, Happy Frog Bat Guano 0-5-0, Fish Bone Meal 3-16-0, Blood Meal 12-0-0, Maxicorp soluble powder, Mycrogrow Soluble (Mycro's & bacteria trich's and the goodies), Azomite, Sweet Dolomite Lime, Epsom Salt, Unsulphered Mollasses, BioAG Cytoplus (humic/trace/kelp), KOi Pond with Koi and gold fish plants and water fall, no chemicals or anything added. ph unknown at this time but have a test kit.I have many bags of root organic soil and 1 bag of their 707 formula and 2 bags of Light warrior, and a bag of Alaskan Bountea Humisoil. I can also comb the beach for dungenous crab shells if needed.

I will be using 1 gallon pots. to grow a few auto's under t5's. I have a mess of products and probably need some different guano's it sounds like for the tea's.
Could you maybe help this confused mad scientist? what I can do to maximize these ingredients? It sounds like I have alot of what you got going on, and what I would like to do, that is why I ask my friend

This willl be my first grow and I do not want to mess these little babies up. I have too much info clouding my head and need help to keep it simple.
Thank you if you can,
thank you if you can't
You may pm me if you wish, so not to clutter your thread.

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don't sweat it man everyone is welcome here as far as I'm concerned, the more the merrier. sounds like you have the right idea going into it and that you've done at least a lot more research than 70% of the blokes that dive into this hobby for some easy cash. you've figured out what plants need and how to give it to them without chemicals. the trick to organics is to have most a lot of what your plants need premixed into the soil. what I would do since you have so many products at your disposal is to read the backs of everything you have and find out what their N-P-K values are (or you know, whatever other trace mineral or element that product is providing to your plant like epsom salts provide magnesium). from there you'll want to read the recommended doses and applications of all of your products and get a rough idea of what is overdosing and what is a pretty low dose of that product. with those figures in mind it'll be easier to decide what you want to combine, and how, to reach your goal of complete and balanced nutrients for your plants. you'll want to have a lot of nitrogen and potash (the N and K) available in the soil for the veg stage, with a fair but not so abundant source of phosphorous (the P). then you'll be wanting to start supplementing the plant with a more phosphorous centered diet through teas later in the plants life when it's flowering. a lot of people will tell you the plant is supposed to start starving for nutrients at the end of flowering and thus brown/yellow off, but I prefer to remember that healthy leaves = more photosynthesis which is what your plants will do to create smokables right up until harvest day, so it pays to have that rich and balanced soil mixed to start off with and to have that abundant source of trace nutrients and minerals coming from your pond the entire grow. which reminds me, that's really great that you have a koi pond to use as a water source. kois produce absurd amounts of waste and that water will probably do the work of everything you listed off besides the epsom salts, the dirt, and the major staple nutrients. not to mention it's cleaner to your plants than your tap water is. i'm pretty baked so I can't remember if i was going to go anywhere with this after that but yeah. you picked the right road to veer down to start this hobby off with - organics are much more forgiving than other methods, and you'll learn quickly that leaving the plants alone is almost always better than over-thinking it.

hope this helped. keep it green.

Much appreciated.
Good luck, and will be following your thread.

back from a brief personal vacation. here are some updated pictures. plant 1 was definitly stunted from too tightly packed earth but it's recovering its colour and should pick up pace soon.

hope you're high and at peace, whoever you are.

Hope your vaca. was relaxing.
Been smoking some chemdog, yeah, good and high!!!
Girls look good, eventhough they missed you

oops, double posted that last one, fixed that.

PakaloloHui said:

Hope your vaca. was relaxing.
Been smoking some chemdog, yeah, good and high!!!
Girls look good, eventhough they missed you

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yeah it was, but then it was right back into the fray - such is life

and thanks!

How are the girls doing?

Good to see youre at it again. They look nice, lets hope they AF hehe.

sorry for the delay - got my camera back; here are some updated pictures. girls are just starting to flower.

Plant one is still dwarfed but looks completely healthy now.

these are during lights off;

Looking Perty!!!

Nice to be back on my computer, was on evac. yesterday starting at 4a.m. went back home around 3p.m. and slept.
I live very close to where the guys were swept away in Oregon, but were saved. I'm 250 yrds from the Ocean at 5ft. above sea level, so I tend to be very precautious and have to evac. from my current location during these natural disasters and warnings.
Hope alll is well elsewhere and am Praying for the people who are trying to survive this tragedy.

Also heard that it might not be a good season to grow outdoors incase of Acid rain this year on the West Coast if things get worse from those Nuke Plants Leaking. Keep your fingers crossed everybody, or prices may go through the roof this fall or sooner.