Modified Jacks 321 schedule

Vonkins

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No cal mag. Just jacks 3/2/1 and a fulvic/humic/kelp solution that's smells like absolute SH**!!! Straight silfur rotten eggs! Fire ass nugz though. Lil superthrive only in veg
 

PJ Diaz

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No cal mag. Just jacks 3/2/1 and a fulvic/humic/kelp solution that's smells like absolute SH**!!! Straight silfur rotten eggs! Fire ass nugz though. Lil superthrive only in veg
Humic won't help you much (if at all) in a hydro situation. Also superthrive is totally unnecessary if you are using kelp.
 

Vonkins

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Humic won't help you much (if at all) in a hydro situation. Also superthrive is totally unnecessary if you are using kelp.
The solution I use is an all in one. Hydro? I don't grow in hydro! Coco and perlite. Superthrive makes tons of difference boss! Been using for yrs and will continue
 

PJ Diaz

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Fire stinky shiz!! Don't 100% know if it works but it sure doesn't hurt thats for sure! Very very greasy budz. It recommends 7ml/gal but I typically put 50ml in 15 gallon of nutes
It doesn't look like kelp4less sells that product anymore, at least I can't seem to find it on their site. I'm not a big fan of stinky stuff in my res personally. I grow in coco/perlite too. I like Mr Fulvic and Bloom City Clean Kelp as my kelp/fulvic products. No stinky side-effects, and really good stuff.
 

TintEastwood

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This veg mix works for my coco grows.
From experience...My sealed co2 environment needs the extra Ca early on to prevent defs. Others may not need to worry.

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ArmorSi silica adds only 8.8ppm of K per ml.
 
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Vonkins

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@Vonkins, @TintEastwood, @jonnynobody, @PJ Diaz,
I also have recently switched to jacks 321 and have had good results. Plus saving $$$$. Love it. I'm curious what you guys think about the use of potassium silicate with jacks 321?
I can tell u that no additional nutes are needed. Jacks is all u need!! At least for me and mine. Just my .02. I asked a similar question b4 I started my most recent grow, which I just finished! I'm extremely extremely happy with 321 and maybe a few simple additives for the root zone and nute uptake. My humidity is fairly low so I feed @low EC. 45% humidity/1.1ec. Less is more IMHO
 

TintEastwood

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Vonkins

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So I just noticed some odd SHIZ!!! While watering with plain water I started checking my runoff. It was very low! Long story short, I was able to put 9.2 ph'd water and immediately came out and slowly over bout 10 minutes dropped down to 6.0. When I 1st put the water in at 6.5 it dropped to 5.4 immediately coming out. No good primo!! This round is almost finished but I'm thinking for my next go round I should quit ph' ing my solution down to 6.5 or change my feed pattern to feed water water feed, that way there's no chance of acidic buildup. Wtf is causing this low ass ph!!?? Btw, ph meter was just calibrated so it's telling the truth
 

jonnynobody

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So I just noticed some odd SHIZ!!! While watering with plain water I started checking my runoff. It was very low! Long story short, I was able to put 9.2 ph'd water and immediately came out and slowly over bout 10 minutes dropped down to 6.0. When I 1st put the water in at 6.5 it dropped to 5.4 immediately coming out. No good primo!! This round is almost finished but I'm thinking for my next go round I should quit ph' ing my solution down to 6.5 or change my feed pattern to feed water water feed, that way there's no chance of acidic buildup. Wtf is causing this low ass ph!!?? Btw, ph meter was just calibrated so it's telling the truth
What medium are you growing in?
 

jonnynobody

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75% coco 25% perlite
Coco has some quirky properties. Have you ever considered 100% perlite? Completely inert, cheap, and lightweight. I know a lot of people seem to like coco. I myself had a bad experience with it and do not care for it's interaction with certain elements. #4 perlite is what I run in my 5 gallon hempy buckets. Works great.
 

Vonkins

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Coco has some quirky properties. Have you ever considered 100% perlite? Completely inert, cheap, and lightweight. I know a lot of people seem to like coco. I myself had a bad experience with it and do not care for it's interaction with certain elements. #4 perlite is what I run in my 5 gallon hempy buckets. Works great.
I used to run hemp buckets but got tired of all the watering. Might get back on that train real soon!!! I currently grow in 3 gallon containers that sit in a half gallon pan!! I'm thinking the frequent watering or feeding will help keep my ph more in check. Wonder if that organic humic/fulvic/kelp product I'm using is causing the low ph? Either that or the coco are my conclusions!
 
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Vonkins

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I use to mix up 15 gallons of nutes at a time including the humic/fulvic/kelp mixture and let it aerate steadily using it over a week or 2. I noticed the pH never dropped. It always raised! Always!!
 
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