MMPR Pricing and Varieties

Biggest problem is the divide in society about mmj. "Reefer Madness" and other archaic propaganda by governments has a stronghold in the minds of our older population. Every new politician under the age of 50 that gets into office does not subscribe to the propaganda. They grew up smoking MJ in college and in their basements. These are the politicians who will make MJ laws more relaxed. I'm no Trudeau fan, but he is a good example of the next generation of politicians that are MJ-friendly.
The other side of the divide, is the "hoity-toity" types that have never experienced MJ (for medical or recreational purposes). They are content to believe whatever the media has spewed at them over the course if their lives. They have no real world comprehension about the benefits of MJ.
And sadly, for the rest of us, we are stuck in the middle. Either breaking the law to buy street MJ, or being lucky enough to grow personally. For us aspiring to become LPs, it's a chance to really span the gap in society. Showing government officials that it can be produced and properly monitored/regulated. Also showing the rest of society that it can be a legal and beneficial substance that is needed for more than just a party favore for teens.

As I've said before, these are the steps of evolution for MJ in our country. We need to let it evolve...nay.... Help it evolve by getting onboard with what is in front of us. Show the people that it is a viable system, and it works, and sick people are benefiting.
Don't hate the changes, hate the history. These changes are good.

Cheers

Perfect post, you nailed it.

Tell me about this second MMPR crash that you think is coming AB Bud Soon, that business 101 thing, I missed that course while I was running my business the last 20 years, LOL. I ask because I don't understand. What will end the current 2010 crash? Can we crash twice at the same time? Can we crash twice in a row? Did business 101 cover this, were you absent that day too, just kidding.

hehehe..out here in the Calgary area, price of weed fluctuated wildly over the summer (street prices). All BC weed. There were times that prices were less than half the price from only 2 years ago...then skyrocket a week later. So to be honest, I'm not really aware of the current BC price crash, just pointing out the obvious historical path that almost all new technology/product/service will go through. Colorado had it. Not sure what's happening in Washington.
It is too bad that people abused the old system so prolifically. But what did HC really expect? LOL It amazes me that they had no real control measures, and no real clue about growing mmj. Were they really that naive?

I believe the new system isn't a "new path" for mmj patients...it's a continuation from the previous path...but with proper oversight.

You guys make BC sound like a haven for drug lords.....street prices crashing/then rising.....
Most of us are unaware of what street pricing is like, since we became legal, since we no longer needed to participate,
in black market supply.....
So the key here is real patients don't sell meds and generally are not even interested in the business of medical marihuana.
They just have a supply to cure what ails them....plain and simple.....

Those patients that grow their own meds only and those that pay reasonable prices for their meds, true, not an issue. Those receiving free meds in return for a scribe, and those selling there overage, not so much. Drug Lords, hardly, mom and pop shows everywhere, selling to ????? HA ????.

What's a "real patient"?

No interest in the business, and "don't want to know, just as long as I get my meds", these attitudes are part of the problem too. Anything but plain and simple, who's honest and who is not?

BC seems to be about half the statistics in Canada. Half the busts. Grows half the marihuana. Half the MMAR. Half the MMPR applications.

cannadan said:

You guys make BC sound like a haven for drug lords.....street prices crashing/then rising.....
Most of us are unaware of what street pricing is like, since we became legal, since we no longer needed to participate,
in black market supply.....
So the key here is real patients don't sell meds and generally are not even interested in the business of medical marihuana.
They just have a supply to cure what ails them....plain and simple.....

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Sorry...not trying to imply that BC is all Drug Lords. But as Kootenygirl mentioned, and as has stats Canada, an awful lot of MJ of the current MMAR is located in BC. By a margin of almost 3:1 compared to any other single province. You are correct when you say that not all patients are over producing and "side-selling" their stuff, but it must be a lot of them that do do that. As for Sask stuff...never heard of it being brought into this area of AB...only BC stuff.

AB Bud Soon said:

As I've said before, these are the steps of evolution for MJ in our country. We need to let it evolve...nay.... Help it evolve by getting onboard with what is in front of us. Show the people that it is a viable system, and it works, and sick people are benefiting.
Don't hate the changes, hate the history. These changes are good.

Cheers

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I would like to get on board...I just can't afford the ticket price.

$8-12/gram OMG.i produce my own high quality Meds for a hell of alot cheaper than that.i can even buy off the street at a better price,who ever gives these lp's their money is out of their mind!!!...just saying

No one seems able to answer the question "how are the sick and dying going to be able to afford to buy an uninsured medication?" I've been pretty clear that unless my costs are covered, I will be forced to look at other options, legal and otherwise. It is a terrible position our government has left us in. How can this system work without funds??

And who is gonna pay $400 to a Skype doc so they can buy at those prices?
Kammermans signed up 1/6 of the patients into the program and look what they did to him. Yup the Doc's are lining up to get into this scam.

Even $6 a gram is $2500 a lb. its what these LP used to sell to the compassion clubs for when they were DG. Now Harper is the middleman.

WHATFG said:

No one seems able to answer the question "how are the sick and dying going to be able to afford to buy an uninsured medication?" I've been pretty clear that unless my costs are covered, I will be forced to look at other options, legal and otherwise. It is a terrible position our government has left us in. How can this system work without funds??

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In Toronto there are 5 or 6 six "compassion clubs" that sell well above street prices. I have never heard of one going under. This tells me there are lots of people out there able to afford their medication.

No offense to the truly ill, but the majority of the people I know, bought their license to simply be legal.

I've read on a forum before that some compassion clubs were sifting their product. Then reselling it and the Kief they've extracted, the weed in the display case always looks better than what you actually recieve. I've gotten it before looks nice in the display then all small crumbly buds when you buy it... Is it a coincedense that they always have bottoms. I've seen the people that go into those clubs alot of them are not well off and have low income. So they don't know or care that they're Being taking advantage of. It's just easier for them because its harder to just find a gram to buy on the street. So imagine now people if you can't even see the product your buying. These clubs are doing it when your looking at it even. Me personally I like to be able to inspect my Meds closely break them open and squish them in my fingers. Your not gonna be able to this when getting from these lp's.

$1/g proposed in uraguay. Lol

So far this thread has just said how much lp's are gonna rip off the patients that order from them. Not once has there been any talk about the variety or strains, so why the hell is that in the title. It needs to be edited. Mmpr princing for shit 8-12/g. prob some m39 cut off at the base then thrown In the industrial wood chipper then sent to the patient. Have fun medicating with that. You think they'll be selling the potent strains I highly doubt it. Don't want it to be too good because patients won't buy as much.... Right all you soon to be lp's....

LOL...

If I get an LP license, I know the biggest competition will be the black market not other LP's. The price on the black market is at all time lows. Especially in BC. I believe this will change once all those DG's close up shop (If they close up shop) but none the less, an LP will have to offer equal or better quality for less than what you can get on the street.

I doubt it will change bud. There's lots of primo around. You just have to know the right people.its funny everyone thinks that the black market is fed by dg's I find it very hard to believe. I know of lots of houses where there's just a couch and a tv, that's it and the whole house is a grow these guys aren't dg's they're organized crime. And there's 3 more set up for every one that gets shut down. Prob even more.

In Ontario, the black market is mostly supplied by DG's. How do I know this? because true organized crime grows are shipping their product to the states (east coast) where a lb is still going for $4000 and up. There's no market here for China/Vietnamese bud, not when there's all kinds of primo around grown by DG's

I too live in Ontario the prices haven't changed in 8 years for me. $2000-2600 for triple A. Some of the best I've had. And if I want the low grade wich is just outdoor ill be looking at 1400$ still better than the chino(m39)

If you guys think that lps are going to sell crap weed you're nuts.

we've applied for our lp license and we'll get it. Our master grower designed a proprietary aeroponic system and it will not produce junk. Each bag that a patient will receive will contain bud that can enter the cannabis cup. We're not the only ones that are taking the "grow the best that you can so patients come back" approach. We know that patients will buy their full prescription and sell what they can not afford to their friends.

btw..if you think that you can break even at just over a buck a gram then you obviously have not completed the QA or testing part of the application. And anyone that thinks they can do this on a budget of 40k is out to lunch. Our security system was 40k alone. Our lab and QA set up was over 100k. If you don't have your own lab then it's costs over 25k to work with a QA partner and tests are $2700 per strain/per batch. Also, you need to provide the lab with 70gs for the testing. I can send info if you don't believe me.

now, our total set up and operating line for a year (running a 12,000 sf op) required a 750k investment. We're hoping not to use it all but need to be prepared. We are fully backed by the city that were doing this in and leasing the building. In the end, we'll be selling truly organically grown, top shelf primo at $4-5. I've crunched the numbers and it is what it is. I know around here in the niagara region that $40 for a quarter, for ultra primo is a crazy deal. That same bag can be sold on the street for $80 and the buyers wouldnt bitch about the price. At least not after they try it.