MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

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Xchus

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Also, nobody has mentioned, I'm guessing because everybody already has an MMAR license, but if you are starting from regular seeds and have to do female/male selection, then out of the females select your mom, and then clone and veg, and then flower, that has a lot of down time and lots of money.

Is there a way to purchase quality clones to at least cut the selection time and have something to produce at the beginning while you do the selection on the side?

From some of the posts I also see predetermined production/year, do you have to define how much are you going to produce?
 
woodsmaneh!

woodsmaneh!

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Xchus said:
Also, nobody has mentioned, I'm guessing because everybody already has an MMAR license, but if you are starting from regular seeds and have to do female/male selection, then out of the females select your mom, and then clone and veg, and then flower, that has a lot of down time and lots of money.

Is there a way to purchase quality clones to at least cut the selection time and have something to produce at the beginning while you do the selection on the side?

From some of the posts I also see predetermined production/year, do you have to define how much are you going to produce?
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You have a lot of reading to do, start with the MMPR licence fill it out and you will have a better understanding. I'm starting to sound like HC
 
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budgetguy

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I hear funny rumors about MMPR whenever the topic comes up in my daily life. I have to start wondering how many people even care to read the regulations. I spent like a whole day and whole night going through it all getting my hopes and dreams crushed sentence after sentence lol.
 
woodsmaneh!

woodsmaneh!

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budgetguy said:
I hear funny rumors about MMPR whenever the topic comes up in my daily life. I have to start wondering how many people even care to read the regulations. I spent like a whole day and whole night going through it all getting my hopes and dreams crushed sentence after sentence lol.
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The deeper we get into this the harder it gets, I know what you mean about being crushed, just when you think it's over HC asks another question and you wonder if it's just to eliminate you?

Lots of tire kickers and people who think they know something, but very few do. Want to be a LP in Canada Print off the licence application and fill it out if you get that done ask some questions at least they will be intelligent. Go read about GMP that should keep some of you busy for a few months.
 
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Kron3007

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budgetguy said:
I hear funny rumors about MMPR whenever the topic comes up in my daily life. I have to start wondering how many people even care to read the regulations. I spent like a whole day and whole night going through it all getting my hopes and dreams crushed sentence after sentence lol.
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It is a series of catch 22s. You can't sign a long term lease until you have a license, yet you need one to apply. You can't get a license until you sink in a lot of cash, but you dont want to invest all your cash without a license (even conditional). At the end of the day they have made it very difficult to get into unless you have a lot of cash behind you. I'm not saying that it a conspiracy, but the regs are designed in such a way as to promote large corporate interests rather than small business development. It is a difficult road for sure.

That being said, we are still moving forward, but there is a series of hoops that make it very difficult for the little guys.
 
Princess of Pot

Princess of Pot

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Always use EMAIL, one company I'm working with got some answers on the phone but what if it's wrong when they come to inspect? But the person on the phone said it was OK, like that will fly.

How often would you recommend to follow-up with email?
 
Kootenaygirl

Kootenaygirl

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Two days no more. So far 15% of HC emails have or are mistakes within our correspondence. Left not talking to right predominately, spelling, and the famous paragraph of bullshit that happens to use a couple of the words in your question. The worst was having the status of your file changed without notification. It is the MMAR, redtape crap on steroids. I would record all conversations with HC too. HC is not in your corner, they do not like marihuana or the people who do. Cover your ass constantly. HC is the enemy of marihuana. HC does not care about you or yours, it is just a fact that we all are getting used to, one blow at a time. Amazing, but even with these expectations, HC still surprise me on how cruel they are.

This relates too, I have changed my opinion about getting a lawyer for three reasons, 1) teeth in application 2) reduce HC frustration 3) lawyers are catching up to the regs finally.

The catch 22's in the regs are plentiful, with interpretation dangerous, and HC is out to trip you up. Watch your six. Emails are the best way to communicate with HC. I am thinking of having my lawyer add a long paragraph to the beginning of every email that starts something like, "thank you for your interest in responding to this email, I would like to ....", nah, that would confuse them, as their attention span is very short.

Too negative? Probably too soon I think, not ready yet... breath...
 
woodsmaneh!

woodsmaneh!

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Kootenaygirl said:
Two days no more. So far 15% of HC emails have or are mistakes within our correspondence. Left not talking to right predominately, spelling, and the famous paragraph of bullshit that happens to use a couple of the words in your question. The worst was having the status of your file changed without notification. It is the MMAR, redtape crap on steroids. I would record all conversations with HC too. HC is not in your corner, they do not like marihuana or the people who do. Cover your ass constantly. HC is the enemy of marihuana. HC does not care about you or yours, it is just a fact that we all are getting used to, one blow at a time. Amazing, but even with these expectations, HC still surprise me on how cruel they are.

This relates too, I have changed my opinion about getting a lawyer for three reasons, 1) teeth in application 2) reduce HC frustration 3) lawyers are catching up to the regs finally.

The catch 22's in the regs are plentiful, with interpretation dangerous, and HC is out to trip you up. Watch your six. Emails are the best way to communicate with HC. I am thinking of having my lawyer add a long paragraph to the beginning of every email that starts something like, "thank you for your interest in responding to this email, I would like to ....", nah, that would confuse them, as their attention span is very short.

Too negative? Probably too soon I think, not ready yet... breath...
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I have a list of questions I sent in 9 days ago, and about 4 other single questions and nothing back yet.

Kgirl your going to get even more pissed as time goes on, HC has so many different answers for the same question and just after you get your OK to build they start with more, and more and than they ask for something so fucking stupid you just shake your head. I just smoke a fatty and keep going. No surprises here on how it's going at HC people it's the government what do you expect good service hahahahahahahahahaha

This will take longer than walking across Canada
 
Kootenaygirl

Kootenaygirl

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I found grouping questions just blew their minds, single question per email, multiple conversations.

Think 13 months is enough to walk cross Canada and back? My second wind is starting, and I'm pissed off already, LOL.
 
woodsmaneh!

woodsmaneh!

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Sounds like your ready to raise the roof, sorry for the pun, my 25 years dealing with the Feds on RFP's and contracts prepared me for the very slow, slow forward movement, note I did not call it progress. The worst part of all this is you could call HC with the same question 5 times and get 5 different answers. Welcome to the Conservatives jobs creation Dam.
 
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LPwannabe2

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Hi everyone, I'm a somewhat recent observer and second-time contributor to this thread. It's been interesting and informative, but seems to have tapered off a bit. Hopefully I can get things going again with this question (hopefully hasn't been asked/answered before): how is everyone planning on "destroying" their waste cannabis?
 
woodsmaneh!

woodsmaneh!

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we're all at HC trying to get questions answered?

Going to smoke as much as I can, lol

We will incinerate the left overs, and toss the stalks. You can toss the stalks out as long as they are bare.
 
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LPwannabe2

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Thanks Woodsmaneh, but how will you incinerate? On site indoors or outdoors? If so, what sort of incinerator? If off-site, third party contract?
 
VIANARCHRIS

VIANARCHRIS

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LPwannabe2 said:
Hi everyone, I'm a somewhat recent observer and second-time contributor to this thread. It's been interesting and informative, but seems to have tapered off a bit. Hopefully I can get things going again with this question (hopefully hasn't been asked/answered before): how is everyone planning on "destroying" their waste cannabis?
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If you are talking about the HC mandated destruction of our legally grown cannabis, I suggest trying several different methods. Here is what I've been doing to meet the deadline. Not sure if they will be effective, but I'm doing my part to be a good little Harper Hugger. I placed a large amount of buds in a freezer in an attempt to freeze the evil out of it, I tried to destroy a bunch with butane and turned it into a oil like substance (I hear Harper likes oil) and I threw a lot into melted butter. I will destroy my last crop in a few weeks by turning it into a black 'play-doh' looking substance called hashish. Boy, am I going to be pissed when we win the court challenge and I realize I have wasted all that weed.
 
Kootenaygirl

Kootenaygirl

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We plan on burial in an easy to dig topsoil/horse manure/ compost pile, we have a bobcat.

We tried leaving the stalk, but found that it smells, and so we bury it now too.

Incinerate? Are you being sarcastic?
 
Stark Raving

Stark Raving

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I'm pretty sure you MUST incinerate excess product. I think you can only compost the stalks. A compost pile with anything other than stalks won't fly with HC. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.
 
Kootenaygirl

Kootenaygirl

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Burial is the preferred method of our local RCMP.

At one time the RCMP used the giant local mill incinerators, but even that allowed some smell and smoke, they only had to misjudged the wind once, the public humiliation was extreme.

The "compost pile" I refer to is more than four dump truck loads, with a steady supply of horse manure being added constantly.

This instantly destroys the cannabis and eliminates all marihuana odor. The composting just keeps the large pile viable.

Love to hear what HC says about this, no clear guidelines provided that I am aware of.
 
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