MMJ may still be denied to Michigan

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helmoid

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Well I am very happy that Proposal 1 did pass in michigan, but I have been researching it for some time now and there are some thing you should know.

Just because it has passed the vote, doesnt mean it will be put in effect.
The measure still has to be signed into law by the governor, if they decide to veto the bill, it can all disappear and the vote was for nothing.

And if it is signed into law, Michigan still has to setup a whole system for regulating the MMJ which will take even more time. It has been said that no actual use of MMJ can even be considered until May of 2009.

And even then. they are very very strict about who they are giving cards too.

This isnt like Cali where if you have back pain you can get a card, you literally have to be dieing.

Lets just hope that everything goes smooth and that more states will catch on.
 
mstrymxer

mstrymxer

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im pretty sure that it will turn out to be like cali if the governor signs it. they will be tight at first but once it gets going it will loosen drastically.
 
Green Dave

Green Dave

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I live in Michigan and I to am glad the MMJ was passed ,It means that we are that much closer to decrimanlizing
Keeping my fingers crossed
Green Dave
 
MIcaregiver

MIcaregiver

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The people of Michigan have spoken. Starting on April 24th 2009, I will be growing legally in Michigan. I have room for a few more patients at this time.
 
VictorVIcious

VictorVIcious

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helmoid said:
Well I am very happy that Proposal 1 did pass in michigan, but I have been researching it for some time now and there are some thing you should know.

Just because it has passed the vote, doesnt mean it will be put in effect.
The measure still has to be signed into law by the governor, if they decide to veto the bill, it can all disappear and the vote was for nothing.
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That is interesting, where did you come up with that information? You mean to tell me we spent several months collecting a half a million signatures and spent a quarter million dollars, and you think the governor can just decide not to sign and it won't be law. Not only can they not veto the bill, they can't change the bill. They had their chance to do this before it went on the ballot, they choose not to do anything. This ballot initiative, which is now The Michigan Medical Marijuana Bill, just needs the vote count cetified, whic will be done in forty days and then the COmmunity Health Organizations will have 120 days to have the identifcation card process in place. This bill Amends our State Constitution and would require a 2/3's majority in both houses in order to be changed and then that would need the Governors signature. Some thing that is not likely to happen when the voters approved it by a 2-1 majority.


And if it is signed into law, Michigan still has to setup a whole system for regulating the MMJ which will take even more time. It has been said that no actual use of MMJ can even be considered until May of 2009.

And even then. they are very very strict about who they are giving cards too.

This isnt like Cali where if you have back pain you can get a card, you literally have to be dieing.

Lets just hope that everything goes smooth and that more states will catch on
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What is your fucking point. Why in the hell would you post this type of misinformation. Looking to create friends. We are not going to just hope this goes smooth, we are going to make sure it goes smooth, your help and bullshit is not needed, we are doing just fine without you. They may have a place for you at ondcp, they like underinformed folks there. VV:spew::spew:
 
panhead

panhead

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helmoid said:
This isnt like Cali where if you have back pain you can get a card, you literally have to be dieing.
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This is simply not true,both myself & my wife meet the critera outlined in the bill & we are not dying.

There is a large interest from the MI med profession to see this bill go into law smoothly,we have an appointment with our pain management doc this week to discuss this new law & how it will apply to our circumstances.
 
MIcaregiver

MIcaregiver

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I thought that this was a nice addition to the Michigan Medical Marijuana Act:


MICHIGAN IS USER FRIENDLY

Come visit Michigan this summer, and don't forget your Registry Card!

<!--[if !supportLists]-->§ <!--[endif]-->Visiting Qualifying Patient - [Section 4(j)] "Visiting qualifying patient" means a patient who is not a resident of this state or who has been a resident of this state for less than 30 days. [Section 3(k)] A registry identification card, or its equivalent, that is issued under the laws of another state, district, territory, commonwealth, or insular possession of the United States that allows the medical use of marihuana by a visiting qualifying patient, or to allow a person to assist with a visiting qualifying patient's medical use of marihuana, shall have the same force and effect as a registry identification card issued by the department.
 
WWgrower

WWgrower

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I'll say it is a great step to legalization. This happened about 10 years ago here in New York. The agenda was voted on and passed. When the first Doctor inquired to the state when he could start prescribing MMJ. The Governor then Pataki said anyone prescribing cannabis would be prosecuted to the fullest. He said it was never put into law and as long as he was governor it never would be. That was all we heard of that. Hope it turns our better for you. Hell, if it does I may move there I have kids living there in Detroit.
 
MIcaregiver

MIcaregiver

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Three-Fourths Vote in each House is Needed for the Legislature to Amend or Repeal the Initiative
No law initiated or adopted by the people shall be subject to the veto power of the governor, and no law adopted by the people at the polls under the initiative provisions of this section shall be amended or repealed, except by a vote of the electors unless otherwise provided in the initiative measure or by three-fourths of the members elected to and serving in each house of the legislature. [1963 Michigan Constitution Article 2, Section 9]
 
MIcaregiver

MIcaregiver

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QUOTE: The Governor then Pataki said anyone prescribing cannabis would be prosecuted to the fullest.

The above quote is true, doctors can't, under federal law, prescribe marijuana. What they can do is state that the patient has a qualifying medical condition that cannibis would help alleviate.


Physician Protections Under Federal Caselaw
Conant v. Walters, 309 F.3d 629 (2002)
On October 14, 2003, the US Supreme Court announced that it would not review a Ninth Circuit Appeals Court ruling that enjoined the federal government from punishing doctors who recommend medical use of marijuana to their patients. The case, appended to this publication, and the US Supreme Court&#8217;s tacit approval of it, provide protections far beyond anything a Michigan doctor will need to do to provide a patient with access under Michigan law.
The case established that doctors my:
Discuss the risks and benefits of medical marijuana fully and candidly with patients.
Recommend (or Approve, Endorse, Suggest, or Advise, etc.), in accordance with their own medical judgment the medical use of marijuana.
Make a Record in their patients&#8217; charts, to verify discussions about and recommendations of medical use of marijuana.
Make and sign a state law certification or statement that they have recommended medical marijuana for particular patients, or made any other statement required under state law.
Testify in court or through written declaration about recommending medical marijuana for a certain patient.
Educate themselves about the medical benefits of marijuana, its various clinical applications, and different routes of ingestion.
Doctors are not protected if they do the following:
§ Prescribe medical marijuana, or even write a recommendation on an Rx form.
Assist any patient in obtaining marijuana.
Cultivate or possess marijuana for patient use.
Physically assist patients in using marijuana.
Recommend marijuana without a justifiable medical cause.
 
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