mountaingarden
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Sorry, a hoop house will dessicate in Eastern WA in just a few years. Of course, if it's not a PhD, you wouldn't need years!
Might Be Moving To Washington
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silasraven
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whats an O cost in WA?
SevenHourWorkWeek
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If you buy it from a grower, $180-240 with the average being about $200. If you buy from a shop, $220-420 + tax with the average being about $280 after tax.
colonuggs
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arent coops run as non profit ......non profits are exempt from sales tax ....they shouldnt be charging sales tax...
who collects the Federal taxes if the business is illegal on a Federal level?? Things that make you go hmmmmm
Ya $200 a ozer is about average from the grower
who collects the Federal taxes if the business is illegal on a Federal level?? Things that make you go hmmmmm
Ya $200 a ozer is about average from the grower
SevenHourWorkWeek
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non profits are not exempt from sales tax in wa. they have the same tax rules as any other business.
Here:http://dor.wa.gov/content/doingbusiness/businesstypes/industry/nonprofit/default.aspx
Here:http://dor.wa.gov/content/doingbusiness/businesstypes/industry/nonprofit/default.aspx
colonuggs
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whats funny about that is .... co-ops dont (are not supose to) sell weed .... they take cash donations.....but whats considered significant goods or services
Is $30-40 for 4 grams a significant good or service???? IMO No....Its all in the interpretation of the regulations
Is $30-40 for 4 grams a significant good or service???? IMO No....Its all in the interpretation of the regulations
SevenHourWorkWeek
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Some coops pay taxes some don't. Some get raided, some don't. Do the math.
colonuggs
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To me... it just seems odd... required to pay taxes to a Federal Government for something they say is an illegal activity
Since the Sate says its a legal income generating business its ok for them to get their taxes.... the feds say its an illegal business but they still want their cut too
Since the Sate says its a legal income generating business its ok for them to get their taxes.... the feds say its an illegal business but they still want their cut too
Stonerman Enoch
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It's all about quality, if it is dank bud for 200 an ounce then hell yeah if it's mids for 200 then that sorta sucks.
SevenHourWorkWeek
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It's crooked as fuck, but that's just how it is. Cost of doing biz.
Where is that?
colonuggs
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Thats still not bad at all ...$2300-2400 a pound.
I think real deal Med patients should get the meds for around $100 a oz based on need.... everyone else should to pay current market rates based on want
Medical patents need the mj .....everyone else wants it
Samwell Seed Well
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bellingham is a great place,
medical market up here is saturated by cali outdoor or greenhouse, the local stuff goes to people head stash's and meds for people who need mmj
UncleBuck
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i ended up getting rid of my outdoor for even less than $100, the market just gets saturated at that time. people are practically giving it away.
SevenHourWorkWeek
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Fuck that, I'd be driving my shit a few states right on the map before I'd let it go that cheap. Not even worth the time it takes to grow and trim at that point. $100/oz? Whoever says that's a fair price for quality cannabis can blow me.
mountaingarden
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And that crosses the line between legal and not. All a matter of personal choice.
UncleBuck
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state laws in oregon concerning reimbursement dictate that i am not allowed to calculate the cost of trimming (labor), only "supplies and utilities".
i spent 25+ days in a row without a single day off trimming, anywhere from 8-14 hours a day. i am not a coffee drinker, but my wife was handing me coffee like it was gum by the 20th day. about 250 hours worth of trimming, or $5k worth of labor and i can not legally accept any reimbursement for it.
i agree that cannabis should go for whatever the market accepts, but i do not get discretion to make that call.
UncleBuck
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i thought of moving it to other states, and it was tempting. i know people in many bordering states with cards, so the risk would have been minimal, too.
my personal philosophy is that cannabis has too high of a market value due to its prohibition. if it were to be re-legalized in the right fashion, i could imagine the true cost to the consumer going way down. in my perfect world, there would be as many markets for cannabis as there are for wine. i can buy a bottle of kendall-jackson for $9 and i can buy a top shelf wine for $150 (and take a tour of their vineyard).
i want so badly to be taxed and regulated, just as any business like ours is taxed and regulated. it would ensure a product for the consumer that corresponds with their spending level and would generate direly needed revenue for the federal and state governments.
i already have plans lined up (as well as investors) for the eventuality of re-legalization. for now though, i am stuck using an inordinate amount of space (rent = utility) and electric (electric=utility) and heat (heat=utility) to grow plants in a counterproductive fashion (soil, nutrients, containers, pest control, lights, fans, cabinets, extension cords, etc = supplies). sadly, this investment must be passed onto the end consumer.
the supplies and utilities needed to produce top shelf cannabis for medical purposes is enormous, almost $5 a gram, or $140 an ounce. you can produce it for cheaper if you are only doing personal, but when you have cancer patients and veterans with PTSD depending on you, quality, consistency, and attention to detail matter.
anyhoo, so ends my rant. end point is that i want the government to accept what i do, tax me accordingly, and regulate my product so that the consumer wins and the most well-adapted businesses survive while the rip-off factories fall.
SevenHourWorkWeek
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As long as it is a schedule 1 narcotic it is illegal and you risk your freedom growing, using and/or dispensing it. Until it's no longer a schedule 1 narcotic the risk must be worth the reward. People are naive and just assume it's totally legal and they aren't taking any risks. I disagree and want to be paid accordingly. Regardless of where you want the laws to be, that's where they are now.
Oh and if it is ever removed from the federal contraband list, you still won't get your wish of a fair market industry. That will never happen. The government will assign the task of supplying pot to big business interests, impose heavy regulations and restrictions on home growing and private sales, and you will never have a chance of competing. There is a very finite time left for the average joe to make legitimate money in this game. Get some while you can or wish you did later.
Oh and if it is ever removed from the federal contraband list, you still won't get your wish of a fair market industry. That will never happen. The government will assign the task of supplying pot to big business interests, impose heavy regulations and restrictions on home growing and private sales, and you will never have a chance of competing. There is a very finite time left for the average joe to make legitimate money in this game. Get some while you can or wish you did later.