Micro Closet growbox under contruction

AsbestosToast

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Hey everybody,
More or less new to the threads, and I finally went by Lowe's to pick up some materials for my very first grow.

The box I'm building is 16"x18"x30", so needless to say it is quite small, as it will end up camoflauged in my closet.
Materials were
1) less than 1/2" in width "underlayment" ply board, came in 4'x9' I believe. Lowes cut it up for me. ;-)

a bunch of 90 angle metal brackets

nuts and bolts.

pencil, drill, appropriate dill bit, pliers, screwdriver

So far I have all but 1 wall on, and I need to devise a way to make the other wall slide out. It would preferably lock in place, and be able to slide all the way off. Suggestions greatly appreciated. (I bought hinges and stuff, but I will prob take them back, it would be a lot easier if the door slid off, you'll see in the pics.)

Here's the space I'm working with


Here's the outside of box


Inside


closeup of brackets


This is what it looks like in it's place, with my shit around it.


If you're wondering why I chose to go with the brackets, using 1/2" particleboard would take up a whole inch of space (2 walls) in either direction, and with such a small area, I thought this was my best option.

I have a pretty good plan to make it not look like a suspicious wooden box in my closet, so more to come.

If all goes as planned, I will keep this updated when I paint and run electrics, lights, fans, set up my hydro/fog setup etc etc.

Questions, comments, whatever welcome. Wish me luck!

:leaf:The Journey Begins:leaf:
 

GypsyBush

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Awesome...

I'm in...

What are you going to use for lights? and ventilation?

Keep us posted...

+rep for starting your journal...!!!

Best of Luck...

Gypsy....:leaf:
 

AsbestosToast

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due to size, probably all CFL's. ventage, probably pc fans, and a mini fan for circulation.
thanks for stopping by!
 

GypsyBush

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You know... you are a prime candidate for a small HPS and a cool tube...
CFLs will work, don't get me wrong... but I bet in a few grows you will want an HPS... there is no comparison...

Just my 2 cents...
 

data

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You know... you are a prime candidate for a small HPS and a cool tube...
CFLs will work, don't get me wrong... but I bet in a few grows you will want an HPS... there is no comparison...

Just my 2 cents...
no arguement there
 

Arrid

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due to size, probably all CFL's. ventage, probably pc fans, and a mini fan for circulation.
thanks for stopping by!
Just buy three PC fans. one for intake one for out take and one for inside to keep air moving.

You know those L brackets you can get?

Get large ones and bend them so it's a 45 degree angle, fix to fan, fix to wall and you've got a nice little air mover.

Check these out for mounting, they are supposed to cut down on vibrations.

Using this in conjunction with some foam strips would work well..

Acousti Products - Anti-Vibration Products: Ultra Soft Fan Mounts

 

AsbestosToast

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You know... you are a prime candidate for a small HPS and a cool tube...
CFLs will work, don't get me wrong... but I bet in a few grows you will want an HPS... there is no comparison...

Just my 2 cents...
yeah, I very well may switch over to an hps, but due to money blah blah im gonna keep it CFL the first time around. I can always upgrade, then I'll have both :fire:

Arid- thanks for the link man, I have been pondering a way to mount fans to isolate vibration and keep sound way down. What L brackets are you talking about, the ones that I already have, or are these ones for PC fans?
Now anybody got any ideas on how to make a locking removable wall?

Thanks for all the interest everyone, my hopes for this is to have a documented micro grow, from nothing to buds. Maybe I will be lucky enough to have someone like my setup enough to be able to easily duplicate it themselves. :leaf:

~Toast
 

Arrid

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yeah, I very well may switch over to an hps, but due to money blah blah im gonna keep it CFL the first time around. I can always upgrade, then I'll have both :fire:

Arid- thanks for the link man, I have been pondering a way to mount fans to isolate vibration and keep sound way down. What L brackets are you talking about, the ones that I already have, or are these ones for PC fans?
Now anybody got any ideas on how to make a locking removable wall?

Thanks for all the interest everyone, my hopes for this is to have a documented micro grow, from nothing to buds. Maybe I will be lucky enough to have someone like my setup enough to be able to easily duplicate it themselves. :leaf:

~Toast

They are large L brackets used for construction..

Kinda like the ones you used in your box, but about 5 inches longer either way.

You'll probably have to drill your own holes, but it's a decent way to mount them, you can pick them up from any good hardware store for about $2-4 for a pack of four.

As for the removable wall i used these things which had two small wheels and a thing you "pushed" into it, which effectively locked the door, i used 8, two on each side of the box..

Cabinet & Drawer Locks - Door Locks & Security Hardware - Handles4Doors

I'm trying to find them.

They kinda look like this crappy paint pic i drew..

The top part is fixed to your panel, the bottom fixed to the box, easy to pull the panel off but good enough to keep it in place.
 

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GypsyBush

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yeah, I very well may switch over to an hps, but due to money blah blah im gonna keep it CFL the first time around. I can always upgrade, then I'll have both :fire:


~Toast
Ok... I understand where you are coming from.... exactly where I was a few months ago... and with the same thoughts...

It's all good man... the CFLs will work... but in all REALITY, by the time you have enough CFLs to flower, you will...

Have the same amount of money or more in to the lights... small HPS are NOT expensive at all... really...

Be burning about the same amount of electricity...

And if you use a cool tube, chances are you will have less heat than with the CFLs...

So you see, when you throw in the fact that it works soooo much better...

The only reason to get CFLs, is if you really want to make it a point of growing with CFLs...

Save your money, buy the right tools for the job and they will easily pay for themselves...

And just so you know... I HATED when people started telling me this... but I learned that they were right...

Go with what you know... man... that is always best... but there is something to be at least investigated here...

Again man... sorry if it sounds like I am telling you what to do.. I am not...

It is just a suggestion...

I am a micro grower... I get very little from each harvest, but I do want it to be the best I can make it... I can only imagine you are not that different...

Well, sorry to be a pain... but I'd hate for you to go for months and then realize you should have done it from day one...

Peace...

Gypsy...:bigjoint:
 

AsbestosToast

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As for the removable wall i used these things which had two small wheels and a thing you "pushed" into it, which effectively locked the door, i used 8, two on each side of the box..
shit dude, thats exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks, I know where to go with little technical construction questions haha. :bigjoint:

Gypsy- you don't sound like you're telling me what to do, I appreciate all the thought and suggestions you're offering on my first grow. One of the things I like best about the cannafarming community is it's willingness to help other members grow and learn, and you are a perfect example of what I believe to be the spirit of this community.

I will definitely look in to small scale HPS's, to be honest I hadn't even considered it. I had this idea stuck in my head that any HPS was a huge 600w monster, so I will have to look in to my options. I will have plenty of time to iron the details out, as I am in pretty much stage I still.

Thanks again everybody, I am honestly pleasantly surprised at the interest you guys are showing in my humble closet grow. :mrgreen:

keep the questions and comments commin!

Toast
 

Arrid

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Alrighty here goes mate.


150 watt HPS :

http://www.e-conolight.com/Product/EProductDetail.asp?ProductFamilyID=7&FGNumber=E-MT6H151G

you may have to open the link twice for it to take you to the page.

product number : E-MT6H151G



Another route you can take :

International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - converting a home security light into a remote ballast grow light (the OG FAQ)

I'm not sure how safe that is, but it should be pretty safe.

(The dude wouldn't use it if it wasn't.)




Strip it down and put it into one of these :

https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/8502-build-my-own-cool-tube.html

https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/8503-build-my-own-cool-tube.html




For when you are flowering :

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/90893-ultimate-odour-control-thread.html



Hope this helps you out a little more dude!

:D

 

GypsyBush

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Gypsy- I will definitely look in to small scale HPS's, to be honest I hadn't even considered it. I had this idea stuck in my head that any HPS was a huge 600w monster, so I will have to look in to my options.

Toast
WoW, thanks for the kind words...!!!:-P

This site is great and there are deff. some quality people roaming aroaund...

As for the lights... Ya Man... they are not all monsters at all... in fact, one of my lights is a 35 Watt HPS... They come in all sizes... and a cool tube makes the useable in small spaces, by isolating the bulb's heat from your grow room... a very good thing indeed...

A good place to look is...

High Tech Garden Supply

They have a decent selection and prices... but if you do buy from them, call on the phone, I saved more than 100bucks in shipping by using the phone instead of the web...

Best of luck...

Gypsy...:bigjoint:
 

MisterMicro

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i had a space that was 13''l 11''w and 17'' high with a 150w hps, dude it can easily be done, and youll be so fucking happy, youll hunt me down, and make love to my anis.

Definatly going to be watchin this.

What did you decide on for vent fans? Im using the Thermaltake silent cats, i have a couple extra if interested. There 120mm with 65 cfm, they are mean little bastards, they also are the quitest fans on the market as far as cpu fans
 

AsbestosToast

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TWENTY DOLLARS?!?!?!? HOLY SHIT!
can I use that to veg too, or will I need something in the 5700-6500k range?

This is definitely something I will have to do. I can have the light and homemade cool tube for the under the price I would need in CFL's to pump out that much light. I think.. haha. Thanks Arrid, commin through again. +Rep for all your help.
 

MisterMicro

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they veg just find, if not as good as mh.

Just for gp, Gorge slivantes, i forget how to spell his name, but surly you know who im talking about, said that there is no place for MH, that hps veg plants faster than MH.
 

AsbestosToast

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i had a space that was 13''l 11''w and 17'' high with a 150w hps, dude it can easily be done, and youll be so fucking happy, youll hunt me down, and make love to my anis.
wow if you made it work with 17", then I sure as hell should be able to with almost twice that. Got a journal for your grow in that small space?
 

MisterMicro

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shitty pic but here she is, complete with 100% light proof ventilation, theres the themaltakes, i used 6 of them to make the magic happen.
 
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