Merica! F*ck yeah!

doer said:

last month when i was a boy of fourteen,

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fixed!!!!!!!

NoDrama said:

They search your car as standard procedure?

Want to have some fun?

Tell them that you do not consent to any searches, then lock the doors to your car when you get out and put the keys in your pocket. Refuse to cooperate in anyway as far as searching of the vehicle goes. Demand your rights.

The cops? They go away after trying every coercive tactic in the book. Stand your ground.

Do this everytime you get pulled over and you will be amazed at how much less you get pulled over. If ever.

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skunkd0c said:

i am aware of all this, it does not help if i do have something illegal and i am stopped, all this will do is delay things
refusing to let them search the car will make them more suspicious anyway

it is better to play it cool and have very good hiding places

refusing to cooperate with them, when i have previous convictions, even though for minor offences is not the best tactic imo
it is better obviously to not be stopped in the first place, better to blend in with all the rest of the folk out there

peace

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Doer said:

When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.
- attributed by Reader's Digest, Sept. 1937.

That attitude the cops see? We don't see it, in ourselves, for a long while.

It is interesting to hear they get to search all with a record. Here is it only for outstanding warrants.

Freedom is to clear your warrants. And even then I had to move out of FL.

Every time I was stopped I was hauled in. Outstanding Warrant.

They love that for a Friday night. Then on Monday,
in front of the Judge, it is,

"That warrant was clear as you have shown. Clerical Error." (another attorney fee) Dismissed.

Self rule in that State. Please, Sur. May I have another? Of course, you may.

Notice there is no persona non-grata, between the States.

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NoDrama said:

So basically, when you have illegal things in the vehicle, you do not drive responsibly, break the rules of the road and get pulled over?

Ever thought of slowing down and driving better so you don't get pulled over in the first place?

Suspicious cops does not equal probable cause.

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skunkd0c said:

Its very rare for me to be stopped, although that is because i am outside london now,
in london there are a huge number of police that will randomly stop folk
also being much older now, and driving cars that are less conspicuous
they tend to pick on the younger guys
quite often i drive past folk who have been stopped, cops don't really seem interested in me anymore

i have a few minor convictions all of these are technically spent as its many years ago
but one in particular was a charge for a firearms offence, which they regard seriously here it seems. even though i only got a fine for the original offense
they still searched me because of it many years later,

anyone who has any offence related to weapons or violence i guess will always have a black mark against their name here
as the cops would see the person as a possible threat to their own safety
i have not been stopped in over 7-8 years , technically i have no criminal record that i have to declare to an employer etc

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Doer said:

A firearm on the rap sheet is different. How true.

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skunkd0c said:

Its very rare for me to be stopped, although that is because i am outside london now,
in london there are a huge number of police that will randomly stop folk
also being much older now, and driving cars that are less conspicuous
they tend to pick on the younger guys
quite often i drive past folk who have been stopped, cops don't really seem interested in me anymore

i have a few minor convictions all of these are technically spent as its many years ago
but one in particular was a charge for a firearms offence, which they regard seriously here it seems. even though i only got a fine for the original offense
they still searched me because of it many years later,

anyone who has any offence related to weapons or violence i guess will always have a black mark against their name here
as the cops would see the person as a possible threat to their own safety
i have not been stopped in over 7-8 years , technically i have no criminal record that i have to declare to an employer etc

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have a few minor convictions all of these are technically spent as its many years ago

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If you're going to celebrate, at least be honest. Nationalism never accomplished anything accept to divide the world. America is the most war-like nation/state/empire in history. If you're going to celebrate your lack of freedom today with beer and barbeque ribs, just keep in mind that you're being watched, so don't pay any attention to the fact that the entire fucking world is sick of your shit.

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"One of the worst myths Democratic partisans love to tell themselves - and everyone else - is that the GOP refuses to support President Obama no matter what he does. Like its close cousin - the massively deceitful inside-DC grievance that the two parties refuse to cooperate on anything - it's hard to overstate how false this Democratic myth is. When it comes to foreign policy, war, assassinations, drones, surveillance, secrecy, and civil liberties, President Obama's most stalwart, enthusiastic defenders are often found among the most radical precincts of the Republican Party."
-Glen Greenwald

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